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Has anyone had a review of the course in www.orderflows.com

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 wyz00888 
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This site Order Flows | Trading Decisions Based On Order Flow Analysis claims to teach you read the order flow with custom footprint chart and indicator based on Ninjatrader. So has any one had the experience with this site?Thanks!

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I also like to know opinion of someone who has experience with this order flow tool.

It looks pretty interesting.

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yes,I have watched some of his videos posted on YouTube,and it seems interesting.So has any one have bought his course and can shall some experience here?Thanks!

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I have bought the course,the basic course and his inner cycle course which post a new video every week.The course is very informative,I think that is all you need to learn the footprint.But the only weak part is that,it only teaches you how to read footprint and without touching much the overall market context,so I am now search a good course to teach me how to use market/volume profile to determine the market structure.Anyone want to have some more detail information of the orderflows.com's course can PM me,I will happily answer it.

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Shortly said - there are better indicators like GOMi.

This one doesn't scale text inside candles so if you zoom out - you won't see much.

Also - other indicators present signals in a better way (like a horizontal line). By signals I mean unfinished business etc.

If you have any questions about this indicator or the e-book - let me know.

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like the poster that took the course said when it comes to looking at the big picture ..they do not have a clue. that is the problem with all vendors selling theses type of products. this kind of stuff has exploded in the past 5 years. i had to have me some of the 5000 foot prints too. they do have some value but it is limited. the main problem as a new user.. it will give you codnive distances ..you will over value the short term order flow reversals you I.D. on the foot prints. the second problem is the orderflow reversal will unfold in different ways ...so if the reversal does not fit in the developers algo you may miss it altogether . footprints also make the leap of faith that all trade executed on the ask are sellers and bid are buyers. they are lagging the orders have already been executed. any education is going to be I.D.ing a high volume node through a foot print that price has pulled away from. when price returns take the trade in that direction... there is some value in that idea ...but unless you can read the order book you have no clue if the orders are there to support the idea. they beat nothing but the cost of the third party software and training is worth about 300 to 500 not 3000 to 10,000. like the other poster said try the free ones here in the down load area ...you can always buy the 5000 ones ...they will not run out..

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like the poster that took the course said when it comes to looking at the big picture ..they do not have a clue. that is the problem with all vendors selling theses type of products. this kind of stuff has exploded in the past 5 years. i had to have me some of the 5000 foot prints too. they do have some value but it is limited. the main problem as a new user.. it will give you codnive distances ..you will over value the short term order flow reversals you I.D. on the foot prints. the second problem is the orderflow reversal will unfold in different ways ...so if the reversal does not fit in the developers algo you may miss it altogether . footprints also make the leap of faith that all trade executed on the ask are sellers and bid are buyers. they are lagging the orders have already been executed. any education is going to be I.D.ing a high volume node through a foot print that price has pulled away from. when price returns take the trade in that direction... there is some value in that idea ...but unless you can read the order book you have no clue if the orders are there to support the idea. they beat nothing but the cost of the third party software and training is worth about 300 to 500 not 3000 to 10,000. like the other poster said try the free ones here in the down load area ...you can always buy the 5000 ones ...they will not run out..

Just mighty curious,

how many in the forum trade live with money on the line,
with this footprint stuff?

Am not putting it down or anything like that, K?

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Just mighty curious,

how many in the forum trade live with money on the line,
with this footprint stuff?

Am not putting it down or anything like that, K?

some i am sure do but most are still try to make them work or have moved on. the main idea is once you have I.D. a good supply or demand level you use the foot print for the order flow reversal at that level for entry. the problem with the concept is how good are you at I.D.ing the levels and managing the trade. bad levels , trend I.D. ,poor risk -reward, bailing out to soon when your stop is getting a retest, not putting a stop in, trading the wrong time of day, over leverage and over trading do most traders foot print education in.

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After loading this on Ninjatrader NT crashed and had to be re-installed. The Delta Scalper would not work properly. Online user guide did not match the actual product sold. Those signals that appeared disappeared. Various chart types were tried with no improvement. ALL EMAILS TO VALTOS WERE NOT ANSWERED. There is NO SUPPORT whatever.

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 RickW00716 
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DO NOT ORDER THIS SOFTWARE!! THERE IS NO CUSTOMER SERVICE AT ALL! MINE STOPPED WORKING OVER A MONTH AGO AND ALL ATTEMPTS AT CONTACTING HIM HAVE BEEN IGNORED!

So now I have 1250.00 worth of software that doesn't work and no way to get a refund or get it fixed

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The owner Mike ignors any messages sent to him.

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There is NO way to get a hold of Mike...he answers ZERO, that is 0 emails...unfortunately..I purchase the package for NT7, and will not transfer to NT8, without Mike entry on his server...Terrible customer service.

He does not deserve your $$$$

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There is NO way to get a hold of Mike...he answers ZERO, that is 0 emails...unfortunately..I purchase the package for NT7, and will not transfer to NT8, without Mike entry on his server...Terrible customer service.

He does not deserve your $$$$

J R

Exactly! I have the ninja 8 and ninja 7 version and it hasn't worked for months...no replies to emails at all.

I have filed complaints on ripoffreport.com and suggest others do as well.

His new "course" on setups is being offered for $99 online now, kinda hope someone would buy it and anonymously distribute it on all forums for free

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Exactly! I have the ninja 8 and ninja 7 version and it hasn't worked for months...no replies to emails at all.

I have filed complaints on ripoffreport.com and suggest others do as well.

His new "course" on setups is being offered for $99 online now, kinda hope someone would buy it and anonymously distribute it on all forums for free

Did you compare his software with Gomi much when you purchased? What are the differences? Besides his includes education and perhaps Gomi's does not?

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Did you compare his software with Gomi much when you purchased? What are the differences? Besides his includes education and perhaps Gomi's does not?

I did not compare

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