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Updated May 26, 2022
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First off.. I don't know Vinny, or his system. But isn't this what ALL those educators are hiding?
I never saw an educator being completely transparent and providing an audited track record of their trades for the last 2 years or more ??
Hello erwinbeckers,
Once I get a track record of 2 years that is auditable, I will start teaching traders how to make money.
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Before buying any retail trading algo, make sure to ask the following:
1) The algo's 3rd party verified 2 year trading track record
2) the algo's 3rd party verified live (real money) trading metrics, Minimum Requirements: WinRate=60%, R=1, MAX DD <= 10% over a 2 year period
3) The algo's PBO number. When backtesting how did they test for overfitting ? What is their probability of backtest overfitting (PBO Number)?
4) The algo's sample space size for the backtests? Did they run the backtests with at least 8 years of intraday data?
5) How many strategies did they backtest on a single data path?
6) Did they run multi-path backtests?
7) Did they run Permutation tests?
8) Did they run Noise tests?
9) Did they run hundreds of monte carlo tests using the same trade metrics from their backtests as monte carlo input parameters?
10) Can they provide documentation that all testing was done by a certified 3rd party along with providing the actual test results?
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Before buying any retail trading algo, make sure to ask the following:
1) The algo's 3rd party verified 2 year trading track record
2) the algo's 3rd party verified live (real money) trading metrics, Minimum Requirements: WinRate=60%, R=1, MAX DD <= 10% over a 2 year period
3) The algo's PBO number. When
backtesting how did they test for
overfitting ? What is their probability of
backtest overfitting (PBO Number)?
4) The algo's sample space size for the backtests? Did they run the backtests with at least 8 years of intraday data?
5) How many strategies did they backtest on a single data path?
6) Did they run multi-path backtests?
7) Did they run Permutation tests?
8) Did they run Noise tests?
9) Did they run hundreds of monte carlo tests using the same trade metrics from their backtests as monte carlo input parameters?
10) Can they provide documentation that all testing was done by a certified 3rd party along with providing the actual test results?
Right.. and you ever encountered any vendor which supplied any of these points ??
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Right.. and you ever encountered any vendor which supplied any of these
points ??
no. They all sell fake trading algos that will lose $$$.
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Let the numbers tell the story. Does Vinny have real trading numbers today?
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