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'only the harmonic was unmatched'

How do you know it's unmatched? or that the harmonics match the correct market frequency? Even if it actually uses a fuzzy logic engine and does some real time PRZ adjustments how do
you know that the adjusted PRZ frequency is anywhere near the market frequency that gives the best risk adjusted return?

unmatched meaning i couldn't find a free alternative or wasnt part of a package that i already own(mzpack). I dont know if i said in the original message but the harmonic was really dynamically drawn so you can take a trade based on it and 2 seconds later the projected zone is gone. Also adding Harmonics drastically slows down ninja so unless your using the tuned pc its even more useless but like i said at this point i take things if i like them i will try to see if it works with my own trading style. Vinny is one of those people that thinks he is smarter than everyone else and any challenge is meet with anger like i said i think people can find some useful nuggets in his trading for free I would not pay for his software due to hardware limits and the owner is volatile after paying the 4-10k he can just ban you because you said i got the vaccine or he said the sky is green and you tried to correct him on it.

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If anyone has missed it, it's been an interesting couple of days.

A true storm of spammers we have never seen before started new accounts and started making junk posts to boost their post count, which all new accounts are informed is a rule violation, in order to build up enough posts to get to post on this thread. Some were stopped, some made it all the way here. Although some claimed to be long-term veteran traders, and may have been, many were obviously just noobs who had drunk the Vinny kool-aid, as a way to quick riches in the markets. They basically have the same song and the same dance, and it's one they have been taught.

This was a coordinated promotional campaign, apparently to get Vinny some publicity, and to be disruptive as well, and I'm sure that many people who had never heard of him before now have. And even though many people would be turned off by it, I'm sure he will get some sales from it too. All publicity is good publicity, after all.

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All publicity is good publicity, after all.

We had a local restaurant who defied COVID rules and opened up doors for indoor dining aggressively.

When the authorities finally shut their doors, the name of the restaurant reached as far as Australia in front page news.

This is a VERY good technique.

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We had a local restaurant who defied COVID rules and opened up doors for indoor dining aggressively.

When the authorities finally shut their doors, the name of the restaurant reached as far as Australia in front page news.

This is a VERY good technique.

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Dude…wtf are you talking about?

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My goal has always been to expose the full Truth about trading, If 'traders' want to buy algobox that is their affair. I don't care either way since I'm not selling any trading product to anyone.

So now for some more Truth: It's not just with Collective2 that Vinny has had massive losses.

Here are some other days you may want to look at before deciding to use his 'tool'


1) Sept 28th 2016: 80K Lost in one day by Vinny Emini.

2) Feb 11 2019 -> 'massive' losses but didn't show the P&L window very much throughout the session -> NT7 Trading -> Vinny gets repeatedly trapped and destroyed by his own tool Algobox.
>> Does not show if he is trading a Sim or Live account, Total P&L not shown, Does not show his total trading account size.

3) Oct 23-28 2019 -> Lost 51K -> C2

I focus on huge RED days because it shows very poor Risk Mitigation skills for both Market and Operational Risks.
The one thing traders can control is their risk exposure. If you do a bad job with risk mitigation then you will eventually blow up your account.

Sure he has some GREEN days too but if his performance is 90% GREEN days every month as he claims, then why won't he show a 2 year audited trading track record?
An audited record for years 2019 and 2020 would be a good measuring benchmark of trading performance because it includes both high and low volatility market periods.

The audit should include an accountant statement and signature certifying that no hedging was done using any of his other trading accounts

People have been asking for years to see his audited trading record and the fact that he still has NOT shown any is a HUGE RED FLAG.
Based on all the information I have collected over a couple of years I STRONGLY SUSPECT that Vinny Emini is running a SCAM
but only the CFTC/SEC can make that determination after a full investigation.









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Dude…wtf are you talking about?

He had just quoted from my post on the prior page, where I remarked that Vinny probably is seeking publicity, good or bad, because "All publicity is good publicity," a famous saying attributed to P. T. Barnum.

So he's just saying that the restaurant got bad publicity for breaking the rules, but it paid off because it became famous. So, all publicity is good publicity.

FYI, it's better to ask something like this in a non-negative manner, without the "wtf" part, if you don't get it.

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How to identify a trading scam from the vendor reviews?

1) Shows profits without proof: Is that NT8 trading performance from Market Playback, Sim, or Live?

2) Statements promising profits over time if you follow all the system rules.




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If anyone has missed it, it's been an interesting couple of days.

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This was a coordinated promotional campaign, apparently to get Vinny some publicity, and to be disruptive as well, and I'm sure that many people who had never heard of him before now have. And even though many people would be turned off by it, I'm sure he will get some sales from it too. All publicity is good publicity, after all.

Bob.


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He uses the same tactics everywhere I guess. Buy clicks and brigade. Threaten to sue everyone. What a miserable life.

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What's the story with those timestamps @Analytic (7 minutes ago, 1 minute ago) in your screens?

He uses the same tactics everywhere I guess. Buy clicks and brigade. Threaten to sue everyone. What a miserable life.

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Hi Mike, I'm not sure what your question is but if you or anyone else feels that there is any part of any of my posts that is not 100% truthful you or they are welcome
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