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Dalton will have his last intensive course and I'm debating whether I should buy it or not. Did anyone here bought the previous intensive courses that could give any opinion if it's worth it? I have already spent some money on education but haven't had much use of them and don't wanna be feel the same way about this course if I decide to buy it. However, I'm now in to market/volume profile and I'm watching FT71's premarket analysis everyday on youtube, I have read Mind over markets and cme's handbook onmarket profile. Will the course give any more insight than what has been written in those books? And what about the mentoring from james dalton, is all the money spent worth it?

I've said to myself that I'm not gonna spend any more money on education(new trader syndrom) but now that he is retiring I don't wanna miss a good chance to get a good grasp of the theory and see someone else applying it to live market. At the same time I feel that the expectations are set too high, that I will know so much more after the course and that the path to succesfully trade with market profile will be significantly shorter, which of course aren't within reason - or is it?

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Dalton will have his last intensive course and I'm debating whether I should buy it or not. Did anyone here bought the previous intensive courses that could give any opinion if it's worth it? I have already spent some money on education but haven't had much use of them and don't wanna be feel the same way about this course if I decide to buy it. However, I'm now in to market/volume profile and I'm watching FT71's premarket analysis everyday on youtube, I have read Mind over markets and cme's handbook onmarket profile. Will the course give any more insight than what has been written in those books? And what about the mentoring from james dalton, is all the money spent worth it?

I've said to myself that I'm not gonna spend any more money on education(new trader syndrom) but now that he is retiring I don't wanna miss a good chance to get a good grasp of the theory and see someone else applying it to live market. At the same time I feel that the expectations are set too high, that I will know so much more after the course and that the path to succesfully trade with market profile will be significantly shorter, which of course aren't within reason - or is it?

I have not experienced his courses - I'm personally skeptical of online training programs, especially the ones having what I consider eye-watering price tags attached, but maybe it's just me.

Perhaps with this forum's guidance and some time spent in front of the screen, that kind of money is better spent on opening an account.

Just my two cents.

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Dalton will have his last intensive course and I'm debating whether I should buy it or not. Did anyone here bought the previous intensive courses that could give any opinion if it's worth it? I have already spent some money on education but haven't had much use of them and don't wanna be feel the same way about this course if I decide to buy it. However, I'm now in to market/volume profile and I'm watching FT71's premarket analysis everyday on youtube, I have read Mind over markets and cme's handbook onmarket profile. Will the course give any more insight than what has been written in those books? And what about the mentoring from james dalton, is all the money spent worth it?

I've said to myself that I'm not gonna spend any more money on education(new trader syndrom) but now that he is retiring I don't wanna miss a good chance to get a good grasp of the theory and see someone else applying it to live market. At the same time I feel that the expectations are set too high, that I will know so much more after the course and that the path to succesfully trade with market profile will be significantly shorter, which of course aren't within reason - or is it?

I say go for it. First the guy is a legend. Second, all respectable professions have some education system or type of training behind them. Trading greatly lends itself to this idea that one can "figure it out" themselves. Yet its one of the, if not the most, difficult profession, or I think vocation is a better word, known to mankind. With it being mostly psychological. So an educator to some degree is needed IMHO.

Go with your intuition. Your gut man. That's a HUGE part of trading learning to trust oneself. Be decisive and do it. Decide. I can hear you want to.

True at some point, after enough training, one can and will educate themselves. But the need of an educator is valid in every aspect of life. For example, have you seen an apple orchard? The trees are mature and have been around for many years. But they are small. Why? Apple trees only produce the best fruit or fruit at all when keeped trimmed by the skilled orchard care taker, the skilled gardener. The gardener is the educator of the apple trees. If the goal is to produce the best fruit, which of course it is, the best fruit possible makes for a better business. They keep the apple trees "educated" ie trimmed.

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Trading greatly lends itself to this idea that one can "figure it out" themselves. Yet its one of the, if not the most, difficult profession, or I think vocation is a better word, known to mankind. With it being mostly psychological. So an educator to some degree is needed IMHO.

Go with your intuition. Your gut man. That's a HUGE part of trading learning to trust oneself. Be decisive and do it. Decide. I can hear you want to.

True at some point, after enough training, one can and will educate themselves. But the need of an educator is valid in every aspect of life.

I agree that education is needed. Especially for people who have never traded before. I'm skeptical of online training courses that are costly. I spent a similar amount of money for a real classroom-based training that lasted three months.

But I see that my earlier words may be construed as me saying "forget the training" in general, which wasn't my intention.

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I have not experienced his courses - I'm personally skeptical of online training programs, especially the ones having what I consider eye-watering price tags attached, but maybe it's just me.



Perhaps with this forum's guidance and some time spent in front of the screen, that kind of money is better spent on opening an account.



Just my two cents.



I'm totally also skeptical of online trading courses and trading courses in general. Some of these guys think because the markets have such an amazing unlimited potential that it justifies their courses be a ridiculous amount of money.

Reminds me of Karen the Super Trade that Tom Sosnoff interviewed. In that video she said her and a friend took a course that was $15k each. I was like HUH? Wow they said them coming. Now you can argue with her make $50mil from her trades it was money well spent but I think one can learn exactly what she learned much less expensively.

I got taken from Tom Busby. I never took his course I did the Afterhours course with Bill. Some good info but all of it available freely else where. They spoon feed it to you. I did have Tom trade just over $100k of my money and he did so EXTREMELY poorly. It was a complete fiasco. Absolutely stupid. At one point we had a 103 point ES 3 contract losing trade and I called him to talk about it and all he could say was some garbage about what the almanac said.

Dalton is in a completely different realm, dimension, world, reality, universe from Busby...IMHO.

Since then at least 3 of his guys left Busby 2 for sure Silas Peters to place trades for a private equity, and Ross Givens who left to work for John Carter and I believe still works for him.

I am in total agreement with @xplorer.

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What did you gain from Dalton's courses? what can I expect to gain after the course?

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What did you gain from Dalton's courses? what can I expect to gain after the course?



I have his book which I have read parts of a short audio course and a video course all very helpful for me. I don't use market profile but volume profile but in a different way than most, I learned from John Richardson but I still changed it to fit me, but his way of thinking and understand of business, the market, which is the same thing, was very insightful for me. The advertising mechanism the poor high etc.

I'm sure you can learn all this from https://jpjtrading.com/#3004 who thinks very highly of Dalton. But I say if you are passionate about learning it straight from the horses mouth it will have a greater affect on you.

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What did you gain from Dalton's courses? what can I expect to gain after the course?

I did an Intensive last year and found it very interesting and helpful. You have probably been watching his recent set of six webinars to promote the Intensive (recordings here Recorded Webinars Archives - J Dalton Trading ). The webinars titled 'Pre-opening Comments and Early Trade' are very similar to what you will experience during the webinars. Julia's additional more introductory webinars for the Intensive sign-ups are useful too. You will get the Dalton Signature Trades Worksheet which is good but basic. But then the Profile is a basic tool. What you won't get is a green light red light entry exit system which sometimes you can feel is what some people who sign up for the webinars are after. You also never see a trading DOM and him buying and selling which is what people tend to want to see in live trading rooms for example.
What he does do is talk a lot about context and deciding whether the market is telling you you want to be long or short or that nothing is actually happening and to step aside and avoid the chop which is really the only thing that matters. He will also talk about setups from the Signature Trades Worksheet if they occur, such as 'if price fails on this breakout lower and comes back in to range, depending on the type of timeframe trader you are, you could get long here with. If price goes back down with volume to make a new low that will invalidate the trade but if it doesn't then the ultimate target should be this weak/poor high, prominent POC etc. He tends to aim for two or three trades a day where as Julia talks about say half a dozen. But you will never hear either of them say 'okay everybody I am buying 2010 now...' You will hear Julia saying things like 'One of our attendees, a prop trader from New York just bought the failed breakout of the overnight low' and then Jim Dalton might talk about that being a very good trade for those that are nimble but not good for slightly longer timeframe traders. Also apparently when Brett Steenbarger was teaching institutional traders he only had one book that was required reading and that was one of Dalton's.
Anyway so the long and the short of it is it king of depends what you expect or want. In all honesty you could probably get the same knowledge from reading his books and watching the dozens of free recorded webinars but the value comes from being able to ask questions about specific things you don't understand. especially if you adopt their methodology for analysing the markets and do it each morning then compare it to their written reports and can then ask about any differences. Also you can trade each day with the live one way chat comments, after the webinars, and compare your thoughts about the market (the ES), during the day with his and learn what he is seeing differently to you.
I thought it was worthwhile but as with all things, it sounds easy in the room but when you try it yourself it suddenly feels alot more ambiguous. But then a lot of trading is about accepting the ambiguity and thinking in terms of probability, echoed by Steenbarger. It is good information but still requires a lot of work afterwards in carrying on learning and applying the knowledge. There was somebody on this forum who's name I forget who clearly did the same intensive I did because he started a journal staright after the Intensive finished and posted all his premarket analysis which was excellent, but he wasn't around for long as the results didn't fall his way. You still have to be able to do the analysis live of what the market is telling you and whether it is confirming on cancelling your early hypotheses and be able to adjust accordingly. It also isn't going to stop you getting nervous and missing trades after a couple of losses or revenge trading or cutting your winners short etc etc. So good information and I am glad I did it but it is still only the first rung, but mixing my metaphors, a good solid trading foundation that could be used to trade successfully, but there will still be an awful lot of independent work required to carry on up the ladder.
I think I have repeated myself a few times as I have just mind-dumped on to the page, but I hope you get the gist of my thoughts.

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I did an Intensive last year and found it very interesting and helpful. You have probably been watching his recent set of six webinars to promote the Intensive (recordings here Recorded Webinars Archives - J Dalton Trading ). The webinars titled 'Pre-opening Comments and Early Trade' are very similar to what you will experience during the webinars. Julia's additional more introductory webinars for the Intensive sign-ups are useful too. You will get the Dalton Signature Trades Worksheet which is good but basic. But then the Profile is a basic tool. What you won't get is a green light red light entry exit system which sometimes you can feel is what some people who sign up for the webinars are after. You also never see a trading DOM and him buying and selling which is what people tend to want to see in live trading rooms for example.
What he does do is talk a lot about context and deciding whether the market is telling you you want to be long or short or that nothing is actually happening and to step aside and avoid the chop which is really the only thing that matters. He will also talk about setups from the Signature Trades Worksheet if they occur, such as 'if price fails on this breakout lower and comes back in to range, depending on the type of timeframe trader you are, you could get long here with. If price goes back down with volume to make a new low that will invalidate the trade but if it doesn't then the ultimate target should be this weak/poor high, prominent POC etc. He tends to aim for two or three trades a day where as Julia talks about say half a dozen. But you will never hear either of them say 'okay everybody I am buying 2010 now...' You will hear Julia saying things like 'One of our attendees, a prop trader from New York just bought the failed breakout of the overnight low' and then Jim Dalton might talk about that being a very good trade for those that are nimble but not good for slightly longer timeframe traders. Also apparently when Brett Steenbarger was teaching institutional traders he only had one book that was required reading and that was one of Dalton's.
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I thought it was worthwhile but as with all things, it sounds easy in the room but when you try it yourself it suddenly feels alot more ambiguous. But then a lot of trading is about accepting the ambiguity and thinking in terms of probability, echoed by Steenbarger. It is good information but still requires a lot of work afterwards in carrying on learning and applying the knowledge. There was somebody on this forum who's name I forget who clearly did the same intensive I did because he started a journal staright after the Intensive finished and posted all his premarket analysis which was excellent, but he wasn't around for long as the results didn't fall his way. You still have to be able to do the analysis live of what the market is telling you and whether it is confirming on cancelling your early hypotheses and be able to adjust accordingly. It also isn't going to stop you getting nervous and missing trades after a couple of losses or revenge trading or cutting your winners short etc etc. So good information and I am glad I did it but it is still only the first rung, but mixing my metaphors, a good solid trading foundation that could be used to trade successfully, but there will still be an awful lot of independent work required to carry on up the ladder.
I think I have repeated myself a few times as I have just mind-dumped on to the page, but I hope you get the gist of my thoughts.

Thank you, this was that kind of answer I was looking for!
I've been around long enough to know that whatever course or mentor there always comes hardwork afterwards but that of course isn't an issue at all because I treat trading like a business. I did actually bought the course and I'm hoping that I will be efficient with the thought process of analysing the market live just as Dalton is doing.

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But then a lot of trading is about accepting the ambiguity and thinking in terms of probability, echoed by Steenbarger.



Wonderful post. I'm curious about how others go about finding their probabilities. I use Excel and Pivot tables and at least 10 years of data and hunt for probabilities ~>60% for different things like ONH ONL Gap VPOC VAH VAL etc.

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I'm really happy with the content that Dalton is teaching and i've learned a lot just by appying what i've read however, I think there is too much focus on answering all the questions. I wished he could commentary his thoughts when the market is moving and not answering bunch of questions... 95% of the time he is just answering questions.

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I'm really happy with the content that Dalton is teaching and i've learned a lot just by appying what i've read however, I think there is too much focus on answering all the questions. I wished he could commentary his thoughts when the market is moving and not answering bunch of questions... 95% of the time he is just answering questions.



Tell him that as sincere feedback?

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I will do that. Am I the only one who feels that it's Q&A 90% of the time?

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@LoneWolfTrader is currently in this Intensive and sent me this video related to another Intensive Mr Dalton had in the past. Here it is. Has value IMHO......



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I'm interested to hear what anyone thinks who is in the current or past intensives. he trades very differently then how most people do here in the spoo thread. Uses way less info, no vix, no tick etc.

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I took the 1st intensive and I'm currently in the 2nd one that's happening right now.

It's helped me quite a bit as an /ES trader and you can apply much of what is learned to other futures and financial instruments.

It's not a trading "system" it's more based on how to read + interpret the Market Profile and understand what's happening in the market.

I personally have greatly improved my trading in all aspects and I've become much more patient when it comes to trading. I force the trades much less and I keep myself out of trouble.

I agree with the earlier comment that there are a lot of questions, but I tend to learn by observation and listening in to what other people are asking Jim and trying to answer the ? (to myself) before he does.

I've also been able to apply much of what I've learned/been learning and when to trade other instruments (mainly equity options) based on what the markets are doing from day to day / trend to trend.

Taking the 2nd part of the intensive has really reinforced what I've learned in the 1st intensive. My only regret is that I waited so long to take the training.

It's not cheap, but it's the equivalent of one good (or not having one bad trade) and I can personally tell you that the cost of the training has, for me, already been paid for multiple times over.

I've always traded alone and on my own, so I've never had a mentor in the sense of someone else teaching me. I've learned what I do know by experience. The market can be a harsh and expensive teacher.

In closing, it's made me focus much more and let trades come to me as opposed to chasing the market with often less than desirable results.

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I took the 1st intensive and I'm currently in the 2nd one that's happening right now.



It's helped me quite a bit as an /ES trader and you can apply much of what is learned to other futures and financial instruments.



It's not a trading "system" it's more based on how to read + interpret the Market Profile and understand what's happening in the market.



I personally have greatly improved my trading in all aspects and I've become much more patient when it comes to trading. I force the trades much less and I keep myself out of trouble.



I agree with the earlier comment that there are a lot of questions, but I tend to learn by observation and listening in to what other people are asking Jim and trying to answer the ? (to myself) before he does.



I've also been able to apply much of what I've learned/been learning and when to trade other instruments (mainly equity options) based on what the markets are doing from day to day / trend to trend.



Taking the 2nd part of the intensive has really reinforced what I've learned in the 1st intensive. My only regret is that I waited so long to take the training.



It's not cheap, but it's the equivalent of one good (or not having one bad trade) and I can personally tell you that the cost of the training has, for me, already been paid for multiple times over.



I've always traded alone and on my own, so I've never had a mentor in the sense of someone else teaching me. I've learned what I do know by experience. The market can be a harsh and expensive teacher.



In closing, it's made me focus much more and let trades come to me as opposed to chasing the market with often less than desirable results.



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$1490 with early enrollment and discount. This was for both intensives (1 and 2)

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$1490 with early enrollment and discount. This was for both intensives (1 and 2)



I think that's a good price I have spent more than that for stupid indicators...lol. Nice trade great investment in yourself.


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Edit: for got the work "spent". I did think it : )

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any everyday traders here who were in the intensive want to get on skype or something during day or at least morning and afternoon sessions and discuss the market basically like dalton did in the intensive?

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Looks like Dalton is coming out of retirement to do MP training this year via the Shadowtrader.net guys.

I have no affiliation with either party, but took the MP training last year and it was more than worth the $$ spent.

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i have all his books and course and 1 intensive. there still may be more spreed over time if there is demand and he feels like it. over 4 to 5 years i learned a lot. but not as much from the intensive ,first book, or field of vision. dalton has no set ups ,does not call out trades. his work is about reading current market conditions. if you are a day trader that is necessary. there are hundreds of webnars you can view ..i got a lot out of that. hope it helps

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This time they have priced it higher at $1990 for Market Profile Mastery Course 1 & 2, and don't see any early enrollment offers/discounts. Wonder if higher price is due to Peter from shadowtrader.net getting involved in this season for intensives, not sure how much of value addition he is going to bring on the table, compared to the master himself and to justify this price increase from last intensives.

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This time they have priced it higher at $1990 for Market Profile Mastery Course 1 & 2, and don't see any early enrollment offers/discounts. Wonder if higher price is due to Peter from shadowtrader.net getting involved in this season for intensives, not sure how much of value addition he is going to bring on the table, compared to the master himself and to justify this price increase from last intensives.

I won't be taking the course again, but it does appear they have made a few improvements in the format and overall info.

IMO, it's still worth the $$ for most traders.

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I like Daltons work a lot and he provides good context for trades ( this doesn't mean I suggest you go out and spend thousands on courses) . To see him come out of retirement so fast kind of confirms ,at least for me that he probably doesn't really trade. There's just too much money in vending. Afterall, why give up all that time traveling and fly fishing with the grandkids just to "help" us all out with our trading ? One common complaint here and at other forums is the fact that he doesn't really provide specific entries or exits. Perhaps that will be addressed in the new courses.

Let me give a plug to this free site that will help with context if you need it.

https://spxtrade.wordpress.com/

I'd also watch the shadow trader stuff but don't suggest buying any courses or extra add ons . There are plenty of free videos here and on youtube that can get you started on market profile if you are a newbie

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I won't be taking the course again, but it does appear they have made a few improvements in the format and overall info.

IMO, it's still worth the $$ for most traders.


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I did not take the intensives but I have two of Dalton's courses, Field of Vision and Live Markets Seminar DVD. I was disappointed with the Live Markets series because while the first two dvd's are good and cover his process, the rest of it seemed like he was just answering questions. I did not even finish that dvd series but the main reason for buying his material was so I could get access to his website which has lots of articles and videos as well as his signature trades worksheet. To become a member of his site you just have to spend a minimum of $500 on a course.

For using market profile in real time for setups etc. I am in Matt Davio's market profile trading academy rooms, very reasonable price. They don't call out trades but you get their analysis, how they use profile on multiple timeframes and what levels they look at and why. I feel it's filling in the gap on stuff that Dalton did not cover.

I also get a free market profile newsletter on ZB from John Bottomley at https://www.gpitrading.com. He provides daily prep and analysis.

Regarding Dalton coming out of retirement, in his last webinar for Shadowtrader he admitted to losing more money during his trading career than what he made. This was pretty disappointing to hear. I think offering courses is nice income for him. Sad they increased the price on the intensive but I won't be taking it. I feel I can get enough from all the free stuff I have access to on his website (because I purchased his course) in order to integrate it into my trading.

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I like Daltons work a lot and he provides good context for trades ( this doesn't mean I suggest you go out and spend thousands on courses) . To see him come out of retirement so fast kind of confirms ,at least for me that he probably doesn't really trade. There's just too much money in vending. Afterall, why give up all that time traveling and fly fishing with the grandkids just to "help" us all out with our trading ? One common complaint here and at other forums is the fact that he doesn't really provide specific entries or exits. Perhaps that will be addressed in the new courses.

Let me give a plug to this free site that will help with context if you need it.

https://spxtrade.wordpress.com/

I'd also watch the shadow trader stuff but don't suggest buying any courses or extra add ons . There are plenty of free videos here and on youtube that can get you started on market profile if you are a newbie

Good luck with your trading.

It's made clear from the start that he won't be giving trade set ups in the sense of leading you in to trades. I recall from last year he would kind of get upset when he was questioned to much about his own trades / trading. There are "Signature Trades" to look for and they're based of off certain market patterns and market actions/reactions.

I don't blame him and his course material NOT giving specific set ups as he's not selling a trading system (and there are plenty of people out there that will sell you theirs for only $XXXX.XX) he's educating the participants on how to read MP and how it relates to the market.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, it definitely helped me in my trading and moved me to another level in trading and more importantly understanding the /ES market. The course is also geared towards market prep and psychology, both of which are fundamental parts of the trading biz.

Finally, IMO, training (and trading) during the live market has no equal in the sense of you never know what's coming on the right edge of the chart.

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It's made clear from the start that he won't be giving trade set ups in the sense of leading you in to trades. I recall from last year he would kind of get upset when he was questioned to much about his own trades / trading. There are "Signature Trades" to look for and they're based of off certain market patterns and market actions/reactions.

I don't blame him and his course material NOT giving specific set ups as he's not selling a trading system (and there are plenty of people out there that will sell you theirs for only $XXXX.XX) he's educating the participants on how to read MP and how it relates to the market.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, it definitely helped me in my trading and moved me to another level in trading and more importantly understanding the /ES market. The course is also geared towards market prep and psychology, both of which are fundamental parts of the trading biz.

Finally, IMO, training (and trading) during the live market has no equal in the sense of you never know what's coming on the right edge of the chart.

Yeah that is one of the things I like about his courses, he actually talks about psychology a lot. Agree that to be successful it's really important to get away from the setups mentality. It's better to understand the context (which is what market profile can help with) and then once you do that you can understand how to adapt when the market changes.

Another good thing from Dalton's teaching is he encourages students to develop scenarios.

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regardless of the content, turned off by announcing of your retirement, then "coming out of retirement" within 9 months for another cash grab.

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regardless of the content, turned off by announcing of your retirement, then "coming out of retirement" within 9 months for another cash grab.

You're more than welcome to your own opinion and while I doubt that's the case, it does give plenty of people a chance to take the course and learn.

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This time they have priced it higher at $1990 for Market Profile Mastery Course 1 & 2, and don't see any early enrollment offers/discounts. Wonder if higher price is due to Peter from shadowtrader.net getting involved in this season for intensives, not sure how much of value addition he is going to bring on the table, compared to the master himself and to justify this price increase from last intensives.

the intensives are not that much help. i think they are becoming harder to sell and he may be looking for one big score each year. Dalton had no trade set ups in the 5 years or so i was there. market profile is more about reading the current market state or conditions. it is not the grail. you will not be no master trader after taking the master course. you will learn a lot about how markets work and the use of market profile. if new to trading this might not be the place to start. the longer you have day traded the more help it will be. market profile is not quick and easy like look for patterns. Dalton worked for UBS , he spent most of his time executing trades for other people. i am not saying do not buy the course, just plan on working 2 years are more on mastering the material.

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Dalton provides a lot of public webinars for free, check out his youtube channel here:

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/user/jdaltontrading[/yt]

Also the link to his recorded webinars:

https://www.jdaltontrading.com/category/webinars-public/

I am a member of his website (because I purchased a course over $500) and the videos and articles I have access to are invaluable. I'm starting to understand the nuances. Markets are dynamic and I think the big advantage from his training is the ability to adapt the information to realtime to understand context better. Too many traders are just focused on price and I was one of those. I think one of the important things you start learning is whether something is old business (ie. long liquidation) or new business (ie. new selling). Every time he does another webinar I feel I am picking up another nugget or reinforcing ones I have heard before.

Highly recommend watching the Kickstart webinar series which have been the preparation videos for the upcoming Mastery webinars. He is also doing a really good Q&A webinar right now that will probably appear on his Youtube channel.

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