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 billsingh 
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Hi All,
Anyone has any experiences with trade-the-plan.com. I am really interested to learn Price action from him. I have sent few emails but no answer so far. Hope he is well.

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Anyone has any experiences with trade-the-plan.com. I am really interested to learn Price action from him. I have sent few emails but no answer so far. Hope he is well.

Thanks in advance
Bill

Bill I'm a member of Trade The Plan and it will be well worth it to give Dan a call or send me your information in a private message and I will make sure he contacts you. In the last few weeks Dan has had 2 back surgeries and just recently moved into a new house. And he is all ways willing and ready to help. There are no issues as far as reliability when it comes to this guy.

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Bill I'm a member of Trade The Plan and it will be well worth it to give Dan a call or send me your information in a private message and I will make sure he contacts you. In the last few weeks Dan has had 2 back surgeries and just recently moved into a new house. And he is all ways willing and ready to help. There are no issues as far as reliability when it comes to this guy.

Thanks Bsinks. ...Actually I was sending the emails to the wrong address.. Dan called me today ...I think he got my # from the last webinar. The right address is support@trade-the-plan.com if anyone else wanted it in the future.

Disclaimer : I decided to give Dan's room a try. Tomorrow will be my first day so please do not ask me any questions yet. We have Bsinks here, bother him . But I promise you if I will give you my honest opinion after 6 months about Dan's system and room. I will be posting it here. Another thing Room is free for tomorrow if anyone else like to check it out here is the info.

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Lots of varied indicator packages.

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(some fork tools not readily available in NT)


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Hey guys,
I'm also interested in learning some of his techniques. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. So far as I can see he only sells the indicators there is no trading course?

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Check his youtube channel if you are interested what he is doing.


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Hey guys,
I'm also interested in learning some of his techniques. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. So far as I can see he only sells the indicators there is no trading course?


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But I promise you if I will give you my honest opinion after 6 months about Dan's system and room. I will be posting it here.

Do you have a six month update available? I've been watching his marketing materials and things are progressing nicely. Thanks.

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Do you have a six month update available? I've been watching his marketing materials and things are progressing nicely. Thanks.

Hi Fsrcapital, I don't ...the reason...I had family emergency and I had to take care of family (multiple members of family), But I been there first 2 months of my post which was wonderful. Learn a lot (I was new to futures at that time). Please see these new videos I got them in the email couple days ago.

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Before I get started I want to say this not a slight at anyone and everyone I speak about in my review has things that I have gleaned from them in my trading. Am I biased towards TTP? Yes of course because that is where I study at now and how I trade today. I do want to say that although I have helped at TTP as a room member, I am not compensated nor have I ever been compensated by TTP or any other person I talk about in my review here today. It is just my personal experience thus far in the game which is almost 6 years on now in the day game.

As we all know being a day trader can be one of the best and worst jobs in the world and what I mean by that is that when your winning you can feel invincible and sometimes put up some astonishing numbers and/or a heck of a string of winning trades. The flipside of that coin is that having a losing day, week or month can make you feel completely and utterly worthless as a human being and moreover blow an account of significant size as many of you know.

The unfortunateness of this is to be a successful day trader you can be in neither of these places and it took me a long time to figure that out and overcome these feelings as well as many mentors. We all come into this business all starry eyed thinking we will be millionaires in a short period of time or at the very least make a lot of money on short order. This is especially true if we are coming into this game with no previous knowledge of the inner workings of the markets. Well as we slowly find out, this game is not like that at all, itís a grind. Thatís what the market does; it attempts to grind people down and out of it while taking all their money and sending them home broken.

As I said it took me quite a long time to realize and attempt to control these feelings that seemed to be imprinted upon my DNA and baked into my primordial stew so to speak. I am talking about that knee jerk stuff, the stuff that is psychologically reactionary and will make you do the opposite of what you need to in order to stay in this game long term. Do I avoid these 100% of the time today, no of course not, even five years on now I still have bouts. The good news is that thru training and mentoring I am much better and this is happening less and less over time and I can tell you with 100% certainty if you donít get these feelings under control; you will never make it in this game.

All and all I have sat with about 10 professional traders for a lengthy period of time in an attempt to learn this game. The funny thing I have found is that all mentors say the same thing when asked one single question. How do you make the majority of your money, from training folks or trading? Well it seems the answer is always the same, trading of courseÖ (Right!). In any case I have had the opportunity to sit with some great ones, really good traders like Jim Dalton in some of his intensives, Anthony Drager over at the Market Delta trading room, Pete Davies (trading room for a minute), Jim Pendleton and I wonít leave out Rob Mitchell which I have to admit got me through me first TST combine (Rob is sharp).

That is not where I am now though. Since leaving the OTR and spending some time with another so called pro, I found out about Dan Roe from a previous member of the OTR whom I train and trade with today at TTP under the tutelage of Dan Roe. Dan has taught me what risk management is all about. He taught me how to fine tune my entries with the smallest amount of risk and where to take profits so I didnít go home empty handed when the market offered something. He has taught me how to utilize things I avoided for years due to the complexity (i.e. Elliott Wave theory) and Fibonacci analysis. I have also learned about his mainstay Market Geometry and Volume analysis and how these are used to find the possible ends of major moves and 1-2 setups (Setups, now there is a word you donít hear often ). Probably one of my biggest misconceptions about markets was being told by my first mentor that volume doesnít matter, that was completely wrong. IMHO volume is one of the most important aspects for finding the ends of moves or support for further moves in a direction. In any case over the past two years and some change I have learned what trading is all about. I have watched as Dan has grinded it out day by day taking a sim account beyond what I would have imagined possible. That was how I figured out he was the real deal. Dan is the best trader I have seen operate (ďTHE BESTĒ) hands down of the 10 guys I have sat with. I am still here at TTP, still learning and attempting to help others learn the complexities of what Dan does. The good news is I continue to become better as I learn from Dan and some of his other students. I become a little bit better trader every day, every week and every month as time goes on I keep making progress.

Now I would love to give you numbers on what I have done since studying under Dan, but I donít think you would believe me and I say that because I wouldnít believe me either, so I will only suffice to say that I have been profitable over the past two years of studying under Dan. Now mind you add to the equation that I work fulltime at a day job and only trade most of the time during the first few hours of the RTH session. For me to state that I make money day in day out, week in week out is really an amazing feat when you think about it and I canít imagine what the odds are against it. Before I started studying under Dan I wouldnít have believed me having read this post/review quite honestly.

I have had some amazing days and put on some swing trades that have netted me several thousand dollars in futures since coming to TTP. With that being said do I hit home runs every day? No of course not. Do I have losing weeks? Yes, but because Danís system of trading is so solid, I continue to grind it out and make money over the long term. The same is true for Dan, he has losing days and even losing weeks, but I continue to watch him make money over the long term, which as I said I have seen with my own eyes over a lengthy period of time. Dan is the real deal when it comes to trading and I have the utmost respect for him. Often other students will ask me why I donít look at some indicator, and I will reply ďWell Dan said itís a waste of time so I donít look at itĒ. It wasnít until I stopped trying to do what I had been doing that I finally started getting somewhere when I came to TTP. This makes total sense to me now since while I had had some success, I was not consistent as a trader. Today I am very consistent, but I donít use any of my original tools except an MP chart and its secondary information for me now.

I always used to wonder what Dalton meant when he said put in the work. Well under this system there is more work than can be done and itís constant (This due to the fact I watch about 10 markets). The TTP system is not easy to understand and you donít pick it up over a week, a month and some donít even a year. Everyone wants a green light red light system, but that doesnít exist and as I have said trading isnít easy, if it was everyone would be doing it and we would all be rich. Not the case, sorry folks, not even at TTP. But after spending so much time with Dan and TTP students and making so much progress, I felt it was time to write a review about his system, its well over due. I am done looking for the Holy Grail, as I donít think I can get any closer than I am right now. As I said I have sat with 10 proís and I am still here at TTP more than two years on now. I am not going anywhere. As a final note you may wonder what Dan said when I asked him the proverbial trading training question. Well, you should know, I never did because I already knew the answer.

Thanks Dan for everything, sharing your time and experience with me has really changed my life so to speak. I was quite honestly very close to throwing in the towel on day trading when I came across your You Tube channel, so you have shown me the light sir. I canít convey how much I owe you. Looking forward to many more years with you and TTP, thanks again.

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I totally concur with t0030tr's review except I only trade 3 markets and never see myself trading more than 4, and I have only been with Dan for 20 months.

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Hey guys,

Just to pipe in here...
Having spent plenty of money on different trading courses over the years I was looking to improve my edge in the markets. The larger your edge the more you can get away with, without massively affecting your account balance or in my case starting off a spell of emotional trading... and of course the more you stand to make. Dan has proved this quite conclusively.
I was looking for a group of people who have the same basic beliefs in how the markets are constructed and searching for a great trader to learn from.
After weighing off a few options I decided to join TTP. I've been with them for about 6 months now. TTP was the most expensive choice but the main reason I decided to join Dan and Co. was that he was, is and will probably be the only person who has proved their method and shown his account statements to boot. (At least that has been my experience).

I was hoping to be further along with his method after 6 months but life has most certainly and regrettably got in the way. I've only spent 2 weeks in the traderoom and still have LOTS to learn. In the future I will update my review ... hopefully from an island in the Caribbean

Ok so my honest review__
The method is as complex as you make it... The more you know, understand, test, practice and learn the more powerful the method becomes. However I think the aspects that help my trading the most are multiple time frame analysis, fibs (never thought I'd say that but they do work when applied correctly) and market geometry, although I was already using mg to a degree. I have been trading pretty erratically lately and I dare say emotionally so I'm up about 15xR with 2-3 months trading. I was up near 40xR at one point, so that is a personal flaw.. not a shortfall of the method. Definitely possible to make 40xR each month IMO.
The support team is awesome and always respond quickly.
Their tools are some of the best in the industry although I found myself removing things like Pivots, VWAP etc from my charts so I don't have an epileptic fit.
Coaching/teaching is great but you need to join the Traderoom everyday to really benefit from this.

Areas TTP could improve.... the actual coursework/videos etc don't flow in a logical, easy to learn fashion. I found myself spending huge amounts of time watching stuff that had already been covered. I believe the guys are working on this already and I'm sure they know of the issue.
There is also a large requirement to learn the software they have developed and there are constant updates and changes. This is great if you have time but if you are trying to master a method on a part-time basis it can be a serious challenge.
There are too few documented rules and guidelines or rather setup, entry, exit criteria that one can look at to have a picture of exactly how to trade the method. I guess it is highly discretional and impossible to summarise in a few pages but I still think there is room for improvement in that department.

That being said and no harm intended to the TTP team, you guys are doing an incredible job and us rookie traders always appreciate you sharing your knowledge, even if it means we have to share our cash.

If you willing to put in hard work and have the patience to learn trading, TTP is your best way of achieving profitability.
I hope to be trading this method till I die! and hopefully join the Traderoom for an extended period and report back here in the future.

My rating 10/10

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TTP is one of the few vendors that is actually worthwhile (Jigsaw being the only other that comes to mind). That said, it is incredibly complex and difficult to learn. Daniel is a great guy and very intelligent, but would be well served having someone else create a training course for the system - he tends to wander and the webinars stretch for hours. I've begged them for the past couple of years to at least arrange the training videos in an logical progression, but it's a moving target - the system is always been added on to or improved, and the settings are constantly being adjusted. It's pro level stuff the average retail trader will never even know exists.


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I don't use TTP.

However, I just checked the site and I noticed the 'free indicators' seem to be ones from Futures.io or members here.

Seems strange to use indicators from here and require a signup to access them?
I did not sign up so I don't know if they give credit to this site or the acutal authors.

Just curious why this is o.k. or if I did not understand why.

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The free indicators are from Fat Tails, published with his permission.



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I don't use TTP.

However, I just checked the site and I noticed the 'free indicators' seem to be ones from Futures.io or members here.

Seems strange to use indicators from here and require a signup to access them?
I did not sign up so I don't know if they give credit to this site or the acutal authors.

Just curious why this is o.k. or if I did not understand why.


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TTP is one of the few vendors that is actually worthwhile (Jigsaw being the only other that comes to mind). That said, it is incredibly complex and difficult to learn. Daniel is a great guy and very intelligent, but would be well served having someone else create a training course for the system - he tends to wander and the webinars stretch for hours. I've begged them for the past couple of years to at least arrange the training videos in an logical progression, but it's a moving target - the system is always been added on to or improved, and the settings are constantly being adjusted. It's pro level stuff the average retail trader will never even know exists.


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Hi Aircal,
Agreed with you on everything. I also gave up for that reason. Need smaller/shorter/to the point videos and it can be done very easily. Both Dan and Clinton and amazing persons and traders. Dan being very intelligent and know ninja inside out built amazing system. I wish I can use it to its fullest, but cannot keep it up with videos so I just gave up. You need lot of time for that and being working full time cannot do it. I will also be very interested in to the point videos course if it comes out.

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Hello guys, I just wanted to express my gratitude to Daniel Roe from Trade-the-Plan for his constant work for improving our trading. I do recommend his method and the fantastic tools he and his team are developing. Although I do no have much time to interact with TTP trading group , I learn a lot every minute I spend with them.
I met Daniel when he was offering his services building up strategies in BooldHound ,he is really good on it. But from there I continued in touch until he started his own company , to show hi really worthwhile method of trading. He his constantly improving it, and thatīs a good thing . No method is valid if it is not renewed constantly , trading is something alive , and changing rules constantly, if keep our method alive we will keep on the track. That is exactly what TTP is doing. With that being said I must say TTPīs tools are really fantastic for any kind of method in technical analisis .
For sure I recommend to just take a look on it.

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I have been a TTP member since late 2013. Going on 4 years now there isn't another vendor out there who has the best trading system and software for NT7 bar none. I made 1400 today alone and now consider myself a profitable trader. Dont get me wrong trading to me is 90% psychology and 10% system but you still need the best to compete. I rely heavily on Daniels Roe's relative volume for time based charts and volume per a sec for tick based charts. There is no one else out there that combines market geometry with volume analysis and Elliot wave as a filter to screen for lowest risk entries.



I'm still a part-time trader and a pharmacist as my prior profession.

I would rate Daniel Roe a 10/10 plus the man trades live with his own account in-front of people and then explains why he takes the trade, this is not a call room but a total trading-immersion environment where the newbies are learning and the veterans are making money. Full disclaimer I am a panelist but I don't work for Dan, I get my money from the market itself not through TTP. That means if you become a TTP member you may hear my voice as I talk about the ES since that is the only market I trade.

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I have been a member of the TTP Trading group for 2 years. During that time I have consistently attended his trading room in which Daniel Roe analysis various markets. Daniel's methods  involve charts using various time frames, market geometry and fundamentals of the Elliott wave principals. Additionally, Daniel and his back room team have develop sophisticated software, which when applied to the charts, show developing momentum diversion, as well as volume diversion. Furthermore, Daniel conducts twice weekly study webinars with instructions on how to use his software. Using his techniques, his software and his daily instructions, my trading performance has substantially improved. I am proud to be a member of his trading family.

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Traders, the "futuresio" website is awesome for us traders to share you thoughts, wins, and losses. Thanks to you Big Mike for giving us such a platform!

Now, my experience with the TTP has been a slow but sure process. After all, I am a 70 year old ex-stock broker of 10 years, now a real trader, and okra-farmer. Being an older gent, I was most pleased with Daniel's demeanor in both webinars and in-person phone calls. He speaks of his work as he trades: never over-excited, always steady, no bragging, "nothing is 100%", and no heat like we've all heard, "If you buy this today, the price is special!", and no pushy sales efforts. If there was a trading system that states loud and clear, "The proof is in the puffing", this is it!!!

As I have spoken with Daniel and been around the trading room for about a year now, the conduct of the room is modeled after Daniel's persona. I call the room's attitude a "measured steps" procedure. There are no hasty entries. Each opportunity is carefully measured as to the opportunity presented. Furthermore, this is the only room where I have seen multiple contracts traded. I liken the overall attitude to the old TV show, "Cheers", where everbody knows your name.

Two of my favorites about the software are: relative volume and divergences indicators. Without too much detail, the relative volume indicator tells me when there is extreme pressure for an "about to happen" move. Couple this with the onscreen-immediate divergence, double divergence, and even triple divergence markers, good trades are more than possible each day. Still, this is no an auto-system. My discretion is in charge of the final entry/exit.

The futures I follow are: CL, ES, NQ, GC, and sometimes the ZB. The "alerts indicator" makes following several futures easier for me, especially for reversals.

As a slow-senior, I have always enjoyed superb service from Dan's team. Learning and understanding Daniel's TTP software is not an overnight success story. Like all day-trading endeavors, time on the screen is mandatory. These guys have been there for me more than once.

Big Mike did a query not too long ago asking members for an estimate of how much each spent on software, webinars, indicators, etc., etc. Yes, I was an indicator junky long enough to blow one account. I am a Price Action and TTP trader now and very glad I found Dan and his team! Best of luck to all who might read this testimonial. I'm off a few days headed to Texas for Thanksgiving with our daughters. I'll end with a Happy Thanksgiving and best wishes to all!

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i notice some of the glowing reviews only have 3 or 4 post ????? if there are any traders that have used the training and tools that were green in 30 days and now live in Saint Kitts ...please share with us all the details of the wonderful blessed thrill ride.

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forgiven,

as I read your post, I thought to myself, "This guy, forgiven, sounds pretty sarcastic." As such, I have no further comment about ANY trading methodology. IMHO, you need lots time and failures with indicators and trading crookeries.

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i notice some of the glowing reviews only have 3 or 4 post ????? if there are any traders that have used the training and tools that were green in 30 days and now live in Saint Kitts ...please share with us all the details of the wonderful blessed thrill ride.

Forgiven, .. I'm not sure I understand what you getting at with your comment but I agree with bopwillie. Most of the guys here have been through the indicator fad and spent loads of time and heartache in the quest to be consistently profitable.
Forgive us for trying to help other traders out there.

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as I read your post, I thought to myself, "This guy, forgiven, sounds pretty sarcastic." As such, I have no further comment about ANY trading methodology. IMHO, you need lots time and failures with indicators and trading crookeries.

i take that as a no. if some one fails with this there out 8000

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Forgiven, .. I'm not sure I understand what you getting at with your comment but I agree with bopwillie. Most of the guys here have been through the indicator fad and spent loads of time and heartache in the quest to be consistently profitable.
Forgive us for trying to help other traders out there.

i can forgive you for that. it is helping the vendor out . of 8000 of other peoples money that i am worried about. i was very clear , after spending the money on the program were you green in 30 days and now are making so much money you can trade from Saint Kitts . from your answer i take that as a no.

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i can forgive you for that. it is helping the vendor out . of 8000 of other peoples money that i am worried about. i was very clear , after spending the money on the program were you green in 30 days and now are making so much money you can trade from Saint Kitts . from your answer i take that as a no.

no of course not.
It sounds like you have been trading some time, do you really still believe you can master a method and make millions all in 30 days? Good luck with that dude

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tell the other members you like the program to this point. but you could be flushing 8000 down the drain plus trading loses and months and months of there time. i have traded a long time. the more the b.s. cost , the worse it is. ask the other 70,000 members here. a third party software program and training for 8000.00 as busted out a good many traders ,, buyer be ware in this case.

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tell the other members you like the program to this point. but you could be flushing 8000 down the drain plus trading loses and months and months of there time. i have traded a long time. the more the b.s. cost , the worse it is. ask the other 70,000 members here. a third party software program and training for 8000.00 as busted out a good many traders ,, buyer be ware in this case.

$8000 is big money. I joined when it was a bit cheaper but it was still a HUGE investment and leap of faith on my part. One which I don't regret. I've done several trading courses and purchased some stupid stuff while learning to trade. I've also tried studying the markets on my own as well as looking at free methods like Mack's "PAT". It is possible to learn to trade without paying for tools and training but if one can find a good method to study whether free or paid for it can save you lots of hardship and a lot of money too!

My point is.. this thread is about reviewing Trade-the-plan - by people who have experienced it, can comment on their experience and this in tern can assist others on deciding if they are willing to invest the money and time involved in learning the method or even watch the free stuff on TTP youtube channel.

If you have been burned specifically by TTP then please tell us about your experience. If you have been burned by another vendor and you are now just lashing out at people who are trying to give their HONEST opinion... then (to be polite).. press on

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I pulled the trigger and joined TTP last September. The advancement of the tools and overall member benefit over the past year is worth every penny of increase and I don't feel the price tag is out of line given what is involved.

I can totally understand the hesitation for someone on the sidelines. Two things I can say about that is 1. Truthfully, and this might be rude/selfish/unfriendly but I'm glad the price has gone up to a point where it will deter brand new and not completely serious traders. It takes time to learn this stuff and so if you're looking for red light green light stuff, this is not the drone you're looking for.

And 2. If you're treating trading as an actual business and not a hobby, then the price tag is in line with the start-up cost of any other small business. (a lot less actually, and I've owned a few) So if your attitude towards trading is correct and you're properly capitalized to even begin this type of venture, then the price shouldn't be your concern so much as whether the methodology and organization as a whole are legitimate. It is, and its only getting better.

I had set up a personal journal on this forum when I initially joined with the intent of cataloging my experience but honestly, I'm too much of a recluse to start making everything I'm doing behind screen public info. So if you've stumbled upon this or that, it's important to know that I did not fail, I just simply don't care to have a public journal and Big Mike has a no content deleting policy.

Overall I'm a happy customer. I think Dan is a stand-up guy who is busting ass to build these tools and unfortunately, I think the general public only get a taste of him at his most tired and worst performing during the free promotional webinars because of this. There are certainly cons to TTP like any other thing or outfit, mainly just on an organizational and training end but I know they are working diligently to provide more structure and I've seen a huge improvement in that over the last few months.

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what happens if he goes out of business and can no longer support the grail. or he finds a new grail like other vendor do and the new grail you only get a 30% discount. VSA as been around for over 50 years. this is not new i wounder why he does not have a add on for Bloomberg. a lot more traders that use it have 8000 to spend on the grail.

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As an aside, relative volume, relative range, and relative density are all available or can be created on Sierra Chart. The platform is 25$/month. Hopefully the $8000 is for mentorship on how to use those tools profitably.

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As an aside, relative volume, relative range, and relative density are all available or can be created on Sierra Chart. The platform is 25$/month. Hopefully the $8000 is for mentorship on how to use those tools profitably.

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Does Sierra chart have bloodhound? No
Does Sierra chart have blackbird? No
Does Sierra chart have a toolbar reader system to reference anything you can draw on a chart through bloodhound? No
Does Sierra chart have an indicator reader that will port and reference in real time bar by bar any other indicator on any other chart creating the ability to code true multi time frame strategies? No
Does Sierra chart have a stand alone software to manage all of those different readers and strategies for you? No
Does Sierra chart have a divergence indicator that allows you to find any type of divergence from any indicator or other instrument you want? No
Does Sierra chart have a custom bar type to inhance the quality of signals generated though the relative indicators?
Does Sierra chart have volume divergence signals as part of those indicators? Not sure, but probably not.

I could keep going here but I think the point is obvious, there's more to ttp that some relative indicators and those of us who are members are leaving positive feedback for a reason. I joined to aquire and help finance through doing so these tools to have a long term positive impact on my trading business.

No one is holding a gun to your head. If you don't want to join or don't see the value... don't.

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Does Sierra chart have bloodhound? No
Does Sierra chart have blackbird? No
Does Sierra chart have a toolbar reader system to reference anything you can draw on a chart through bloodhound? No
Does Sierra chart have an indicator reader that will port and reference in real time bar by bar any other indicator on any other chart creating the ability to code true multi time frame strategies? No
Does Sierra chart have a stand alone software to manage all of those different readers and strategies for you? No
Does Sierra chart have a divergence indicator that allows you to find any type of divergence from any indicator or other instrument you want? No
Does Sierra chart have a custom bar type to inhance the quality of signals generated though the relative indicators?
Does Sierra chart have volume divergence signals as part of those indicators? Not sure, but probably not.

I could keep going here but I think the point is obvious

Does one need anything of that for successful trading? No.
I think the point is obvious ...

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You don't see the value in owning those tools, you've chosen to approach the business differently, that's fine.

I own other tools from other people too, some I downloaded free, others I paid for. I've also built some of my own tools and paid developers to build some for me. I use them all for different reason. Who cares.

I don't see the value in an iPhone for $999 but thousands of people will go out and buy them. I don't choose to make that purchase, but I also don't tell others on the apple forum that they're wasting their money.

So what's your motive here? Seems like you're just been negative because you don't agree with other adults making a purchase. No one on this thread is claiming to feel ripped off, there's no conspiracy to bust another sketchy systems vendor underweight, so I'm not sure what you're actually contributing to this thread.

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As an aside, relative volume, relative range, and relative density are all available or can be created on Sierra Chart. The platform is 25$/month. Hopefully the $8000 is for mentorship on how to use those tools profitably.

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Do not understand 'jackbravo' comment about "Hotdog". Does that mean you are excited or not. I have seen many times on TTP daily trading the use of multiple contracts. Tell me another site where someone successfully used multiple contracts and I'll tune in.

Good info about Sierra charts and the ability to create the aforementioned without dishing out the 8k. Does Sierra charts work?? Obviously a careful review is needed.

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You don't see the value in owning those tools, you've chosen to approach the business differently, that's fine.

I own other tools from other people too, some I downloaded free, others I paid for. I've also built some of my own tools and paid developers to build some for me. I use them all for different reason. Who cares.

I don't see the value in an iPhone for $999 but thousands of people will go out and buy them. I don't choose to make that purchase, but I also don't tell others on the apple forum that they're wasting their money.

So what's your motive here? Seems like you're just been negative because you don't agree with other adults making a purchase. No one on this thread is claiming to feel ripped off, there's no conspiracy to bust another sketchy systems vendor underweight, so I'm not sure what you're actually contributing to this thread.

Any long-lived trader has seen a lot of "methods", indis, systems, and their respective traders come and go.

A common stage of many beginners is the so-called "NASA stage". That's when trading rooms start looking
like a space centers with tons of screens and even more alerts, bells, and whistles. You can safely assume
that I don't bother about other people wasting their money. I simply corrected some erroneous impressions
about the reputed necessity of such expenditures which rarely make a difference regarding successful trading.

In addition you seem to have some outdated knowledge about SC, e.g. regarding referencing realtime bars,
multi-timeframe coding, divergence analysis and the like ...

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Any long-lived trader has seen a lot of "methods", indis, systems, and their respective traders come and go.

A common stage of many beginners is the so-called "NASA stage". That's when trading rooms start looking
like a space centers with tons of screens and even more alerts, bells, and whistles. You can safely assume
that I don't bother about other people wasting their money. I simply corrected some erroneous impressions
about the reputed necessity of such expenditures which rarely make a difference regarding successful trading.

In addition you seem to have some outdated knowledge about SC, e.g. regarding referencing realtime bars,
multi-timeframe coding, divergence analysis and the like ...

Good thoughts. Merry Christmas!!!

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you do not need secreat software to learn how to use volume spreed , pitchforks and trend channels. this stuff has been around for 75 years. just slick repackaging and marketing.

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you do not need secreat software to learn how to use volume spreed , pitchforks and trend channels. this stuff has been around for 75 years. just slick repackaging and marketing.

Glad that "forgiven" liked the 'slick' software.

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You may wish to be mindful of my experience with these people.

After attending one of their webinars I received more follow-up marketing messages than I wished to. I attempted to unsubscribe from their mailing list but was informed that my email address wasn't on that list. I wrote to them asking that they remove me from this and any other of their mailing lists.

When my request went without a response I sent a follow-up, requiring them to take action on the request. In response I received a very sarcastic message back from a Clint Kemp, in their support function. When I in turn responded to his message I received this response:

"Please cease and desist. We have met your request and do not wish to be harassed any further by your nonsensical and ignorant rantings. Should you insist, we will consider any and all legal remedies."

I'm not entirely sure what any and all legal remedies might amount to. No doubt I should be very concerned about them though! (The bluster puts me in mind of the North Korean Information Ministry).

Something to keep in mind, should you feel inclined to hand over any of your money to these dubious individuals.

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Something to keep in mind, should you feel inclined to hand over any of your money to these dubious individuals.

As an update on this, I have now received an apology from Daniel Roe of TradeThePlan. I welcomed receiving this. It would seem that an individual employee was acting up on his own, rather than reflecting the views of the company itself.

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Hi Everyone,
Does anyone know if the Relative Volume indicator is available for TOS or Tradestation?
I see that Tradestation offers an indicator called the same name but it does not have the same appearance:
https://tradestation.tradingappstore.com/products/RelativeVolumeIndicators

Also, TOS offers an indicator called "Relative VolumeSDev" as a free indicator which may have partial functions of Dan's indicator but I don't think its complete.

Thanks so much.

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wel on day trading when I came across your You Tube channel, so you have shown me the light sir. I canít convey how much I owe you. Looking forward to many more years with you and TTP, thanks again.

I cannot say thank you enough for posting such a fairly detailed review of TTP and other rooms. There appears to be so many snake oil salesmen out here. While I am not looking for red light green light, I also need to become an independent trader in the end.

My first impression of some of Dan's videos is mixed. He seems to really wander when explaining things. I see the value in volume and range bars. I see the value in geometry for the first time. I was sort of dumbfounded after drawing a few forks and trend lines and extending them into the future. Elliot Wave at first glance...seems like voodoo to me however.

Before I go deeper into Dan's methods, how complicated would you say the ideas are? I want to something that is not so subjective that it can never be learned. Example: If we are using trend lines or forks, are there standardized time frames and rules around how and why they are drawn?

Do traders regularly "graduate" and begin trading the ideas on their own or are they beholden to the trade room to succeed?

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I have been a TTP member since late 2013. Going on 4 years now there isn't another vendor out there who has the best trading system and software for NT7 bar none. I made 1400 today alone and now consider myself a profitable trader. Dont get me wrong trading to me is 90% psychology and 10% system but you still need the best to compete. I rely heavily on Daniels Roe's relative volume for time based charts and volume per a sec for tick based charts. There is no one else out there that combines market geometry with volume analysis and Elliot wave as a filter to screen for lowest risk entries.



I'm still a part-time trader and a pharmacist as my prior profession.

I would rate Daniel Roe a 10/10 plus the man trades live with his own account in-front of people and then explains why he takes the trade, this is not a call room but a total trading-immersion environment where the newbies are learning and the veterans are making money. Full disclaimer I am a panelist but I don't work for Dan, I get my money from the market itself not through TTP. That means if you become a TTP member you may hear my voice as I talk about the ES since that is the only market I trade.

Any questions just message me through here.
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Is he trading live or sim - posts here seem to indicate both?
What is this attachment, $1420 profit from live trading from his room, your account, his account?

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you do not need secreat software to learn how to use volume spreed , pitchforks and trend channels. this stuff has been around for 75 years. just slick repackaging and marketing.

Any reliable resources for this information? I think its so old it is hard to find current concepts.

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there are free stuff online P.M. me and i will share where to find them. trading software is only training wheels for any method. you will not be able to take any ones secert software and course and sh-zaam your a pro trader in 3 months. most vendors dont trade... they dont know how. that is why there vendors. there like pinquin birds....birds that can not fly.

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Any reliable resources for this information? I think its so old it is hard to find current concepts.

You are totally right your probably best fit with another room

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Any reliable resources for this information? I think its so old it is hard to find current concepts.

Here ya go buddy...

https://marketgeometry.com/

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there are free stuff online P.M. me and i will share where to find them. trading software is only training wheels for any method. you will not be able to take any ones secert software and course and sh-zaam your a pro trader in 3 months. most vendors dont trade... they dont know how. that is why there vendors. there like pinquin birds....birds that can not fly.

I was interested in trade the plane website but I can't afford the glamor. Besides, futures.io is were I'm going to learn to trade. could I PM you on the subject of finding simpler information on Dan Roes technique with volume, would be greatly appreciated.

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You donít need pm anyone, just watch his youtube videos.



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I was interested in trade the plane website but I can't afford the glamor. Besides, futures.io is were I'm going to learn to trade. could I PM you on the subject of finding simpler information on Dan Roes technique with volume, would be greatly appreciated.


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I was interested in trade the plane website but I can't afford the glamor. Besides, futures.io is were I'm going to learn to trade. could I PM you on the subject of finding simpler information on Dan Roes technique with volume, would be greatly appreciated.

Market Geometry, Volume Spread Analysis / divergence are supposed to be older concepts.

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Market Geometry, Volume Spread Analysis / divergence are supposed to be older concepts.

I am interested in Market Geometry Volume Spread Analysis/divergence but with Trade the plan it's not what I'm looking for like forgiven sied slick packaging on 70yr old concepts, I don't mean to knock it it's just not for me, all that stuff is free and that's what I'm interested in Knowledge. The trading style and concepts I would like to pursue are Orderflow, Volume Profile, Price Action, Supply and Demand.

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I am interested in Market Geometry Volume Spread Analysis/divergence but with Trade the plan it's not what I'm looking for like forgiven sied slick packaging on 70yr old concepts, I don't mean to knock it it's just not for me, all that stuff is free and that's what I'm interested in Knowledge. The trading style and concepts I would like to pursue are Orderflow, Volume Profile, Price Action, Supply and Demand.

See my latest thread, I think for the most part we are on the same page. Send me a PM, let's chat. I had heard order flow might be on the way out and or people are able to hide their volume (something like that). For me I think Geometry/Volume Profile/Price Action have to be the big three...something I intend to investigate in my latest thread idea.



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Does one need anything of that for successful trading? No.
I think the point is obvious ...

that is the better question

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i notice some of the glowing reviews only have 3 or 4 post ????? if there are any traders that have used the training and tools that were green in 30 days and now live in Saint Kitts ...please share with us all the details of the wonderful blessed thrill ride.

I have paid for my software many times over (Although I was an early adopter so it was a bit cheaper back then) with its use actually, but I am not living in Saint Kitts yet myself. I will tell you what I have learned from Dan has been priceless IMHO, but when you find that system your talking about, ship me a link please. THANKS

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Any long-lived trader has seen a lot of "methods", indis, systems, and their respective traders come and go.

A common stage of many beginners is the so-called "NASA stage". That's when trading rooms start looking
like a space centers with tons of screens and even more alerts, bells, and whistles. You can safely assume
that I don't bother about other people wasting their money. I simply corrected some erroneous impressions
about the reputed necessity of such expenditures which rarely make a difference regarding successful trading.

In addition you seem to have some outdated knowledge about SC, e.g. regarding referencing realtime bars,
multi-timeframe coding, divergence analysis and the like ...

Many of the tools in Dan's package were originally in NT7 thru the menu's. He just pulled them out and built a toolbar with them. He never said he was doing anything different although that has occured at this point. Dan is one of the most stand up honest guy's I have come across as a trader/mentor. It sounds like you know a lot more than Dan, so please provide where you're hanging out so I can see how far behind the curve I am please. Thanks

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I have paid for my software many times over (Although I was an early adopter so it was a bit cheaper back then) with its use actually, but I am not living in Saint Kitts yet myself. I will tell you what I have learned from Dan has been priceless IMHO, but when you find that system your talking about, ship me a link please. THANKS

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talk is cheep



Yes it is, thanks for all of your valuable insight in this thread.

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I cannot say thank you enough for posting such a fairly detailed review of TTP and other rooms. There appears to be so many snake oil salesmen out here. While I am not looking for red light green light, I also need to become an independent trader in the end.

My first impression of some of Dan's videos is mixed. He seems to really wander when explaining things. I see the value in volume and range bars. I see the value in geometry for the first time. I was sort of dumbfounded after drawing a few forks and trend lines and extending them into the future. Elliot Wave at first glance...seems like voodoo to me however.

Before I go deeper into Dan's methods, how complicated would you say the ideas are? I want to something that is not so subjective that it can never be learned. Example: If we are using trend lines or forks, are there standardized time frames and rules around how and why they are drawn?

Do traders regularly "graduate" and begin trading the ideas on their own or are they beholden to the trade room to succeed?

To be honest Dan's methods are complicated since they are composed of many different things EW, Fibonacci, volume profiles, relative volume, mg, multi-time frame analysis, etc.. I avoided EW for a very long time due to how complicated it appeared to be, so that should give an idea. It took me about 6 months to understand his stuff. This time predated his training room, so obviously things sped up once that started. I have seen people come and go from the room and return, but I don't think anyone would say they are beholden to the room after learning how the toolbox works. Dan's methods are all freely available and he has no secret indicator so to speak. The rts hybrid bars are new, but Dan has never said that he developed any of the methods he uses himself. I.e. he doesn't claim to have invented market geometry or Elliott Wave, rather he has developed some tools that pull many things together for easier and more speedier use of them and he has developed his own flavor of volume analysis all within NT7.

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You are totally right your probably best fit with another room

Agreed... It appears they have found another bad one.. Funny thing is everyone that owns the tools has nice stuff to say. I am sure all those bad reviews about Dan will show up shortly.. In any case Dan never said he was doing anything new, he said from day one my methods are very old.

Thing to remember here folks is definitely be skeptical, please, but if all the people saying negative things don't own the tools and haven't been mentored by the guy what are they reviewing?

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To be honest Dan's methods are complicated since they are composed of many different things EW, Fibonacci, volume profiles, relative volume, mg, multi-time frame analysis, etc.. I avoided EW for a very long time due to how complicated it appeared to be, so that should give an idea. It took me about 6 months to understand his stuff. This time predated his training room, so obviously things sped up once that started. I have seen people come and go from the room and return, but I don't think anyone would say they are beholden to the room after learning how the toolbox works. Dan's methods are all freely available and he has no secret indicator so to speak. The rts hybrid bars are new, but Dan has never said that he developed any of the methods he uses himself. I.e. he doesn't claim to have invented market geometry or Elliott Wave, rather he has developed some tools that pull many things together for easier and more speedier use of them and he has developed his own flavor of volume analysis all within NT7.

I like that he understands the issues with time based bars. How is he mainly using the RTS bars, as trading or as level drawing?

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I like that he understands the issues with time based bars. How is he mainly using the RTS bars, as trading or as level drawing?

Never for drawing and he has several reasons, but mainly to identify short term signals in bloodhound and blackbird and smooth out noise in the Relative Volume. He is trying to eliminate issues he sees with time bars and tick bars related to seasonality in the end. I am sure there is a you tube video on it on the ttp site if you would like more information.

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Peter?
I believe that the North Korean Information Ministry may be monitoring your email inbox because the first email I received from you (maybe the N. Koreans?) threatened to report us to the Federal Trade Commission as well as my email platform provider. Apparently, they have now highjacked your email and are slandering us across the internet because I am sure that the Peter Crowley that I know and love would never write such "nonsensical and ignorant rantings"(that's a great quote, I may use that again) after signing up to our website on May 19, 2017 from IP address 86.42.180.137 and logging in to your member's area as recently as November 7, 2017 from 92.77.112.215. Actually, after running those IP addresses and discovering that one is from Ireland and one is from Germany, I'm thinking the IRA and the Nazis may be involved in this email censorship. I may need to add an Unsubscribe link in German to our emails...

Stay vigilant.

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@CKMocker I hope you don't work for trade-the-plan because your post is highly unethical, if the information is real, and wreaks of a sleazeball salesman....boiler room type...unfortunately you'll never understand why that was wrong...

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Peter?
I believe that the North Korean Information Ministry may be monitoring your email inbox because the first email I received from you (maybe the N. Koreans?) threatened to report us to the Federal Trade Commission as well as my email platform provider. Apparently, they have now highjacked your email and are slandering us across the internet because I am sure that the Peter Crowley that I know and love would never write such "nonsensical and ignorant rantings"(that's a great quote, I may use that again) after signing up to our website on May 19, 2017 from IP address 86.42.180.137 and logging in to your member's area as recently as November 7, 2017 from 92.77.112.215. Actually, after running those IP addresses and discovering that one is from Ireland and one is from Germany, I'm thinking the IRA and the Nazis may be involved in this email censorship. I may need to add an Unsubscribe link in German to our emails...

Stay vigilant.

<3 Clint


Clint, I am not exactly sure what value you add to Trade The Plan. Clearly humor is not your forte. I was happy to accept Daniel Roe's apology for your unprofessional and immature behavior. Apparently he was adult enough to behave appropriately. It is disappointing that you aren't able to muster the same level of conduct. You appear to be someone who always needs to have the last word. I can only speculate what shortcomings that may point to.

I have already taken this matter up with both your boss and with Shark Indicators, in their capacity as the introducing party. If you'd like me to lodge another complaint with both of them about you then I will have no reluctance in doing so. They may be rightfully concerned that your need to continually pursue a personal grudge has potential to harm their image in the eyes of potential customers.

Reference to the Federal Trade Commission was indeed made as you had failed to act upon a legitimate request to unsubscribe from your mailing list. You don't have a right to send unsolicited mailings to those who don't wish to receive them.

I'm not entirely sure what point you're trying to make regarding tracking IP address. Possibly you think you're being incredibly clever. You may not realize that there are some people in the world who do have the means and interest to travel. Rather than behaving like a stalker, perhaps you might consider focusing on doing the job you're paid to do.

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Hate to say but the last couple of days, more and more new treads smell fishy. Might just been my feeling.

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Hate to say but the last couple of days, more and more new treads smell fishy. Might just been my feeling.

You're right, unusual banning rate these last days.
If something smells fishy simply report the post and we'll take a look.
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Hate to say but the last couple of days, more and more new treads smell fishy. Might just been my feeling.

mask vendors selling there useless ware .

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Yes, I try to come after my daily work and catch Danie in the live room, I follow TTP for 2 years so and I never regret it. Dan method is possibly old and complicated for some, but need time to understand and use properly. His method is not about only Market Geometry and Elliot Waves , is more then that, his methodology is based on this two app but Dan focus to tech how market works and why moves based on this method, and most important teach you how to determinate what trades can work and why, tech u to learn to be selective in your trades, and choose the most powerful setups based on Relative Volume and MG, Bloodhound signals with templates what himself build and trying to improve every time when he can. Yes I follow Daniel Roe and I'm proud I found him, I learn a lot from him and my trades and succefully improved with him.

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Yes, I try to come after my daily work and catch Danie in the live room, I follow TTP for 2 years so and I never regret it. Dan method is possibly old and complicated for some, but need time to understand and use properly. His method is not about only Market Geometry and Elliot Waves , is more then that, his methodology is based on this two app but Dan focus to tech how market works and why moves based on this method, and most important teach you how to determinate what trades can work and why, tech u to learn to be selective in your trades, and choose the most powerful setups based on Relative Volume and MG, Bloodhound signals with templates what himself build and trying to improve every time when he can. Yes I follow Daniel Roe and I'm proud I found him, I learn a lot from him and my trades and succefully improved with him.

I could not agree more with Constantin. Trading takes a lot of time and patience. I was a stock broker for ten years and was never taught such analysis. Trade the Plan tools make analyzing much easier with multiple time frames and corresponding tick charts. Best to all.

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most third party software vendors go out of business at some point and no longer support the grail. or they find new add on for they grail that even cost more. they will keep on selling you b.s. until you say uncle. buyer be ware

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most third party software vendors go out of business at some point and no longer support the grail. or they find new add on for they grail that even cost more. they will keep on selling you b.s. until you say uncle. buyer be ware

Your vapid contribution to this thread is making me say uncle.

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most third party software vendors go out of business at some point and no longer support the grail. or they find new add on for they grail that even cost more. they will keep on selling you b.s. until you say uncle. buyer be ware

Gentlemen, "forgiven", and any others who might read this post: I am one of those traders who has purchased many a supposed 'holy grail'. At the tender age of 70, I can tell you for a fact that I have poured out more than 20k to various training-gurus and software engineers over the last 15 years, using today none of what I bought with one exception - TTP.

As for the founder of TTP, I have found no one who stayed the course with me any better than the founder of Trade The Plan. If attitude is 90 percent of the battles in life, then Daniel Roe has had the guts and positive attitude to stay the course with me and many other traders alike. He desires that we would be profitable in this difficult business. That attitude permeates every training session and trading day. He is 'extremely cautious' for all who would listen daily. I'll say it again with emphasis - Daniel Roe is Extremely Cautious! He is not some 'gunslinger' trader. Patience is the key with a complete analysis before he enters, as you should be when you put your money on the line.

Although I am definitely old enough to be his grandfather, I am not. I am a farmer-trader who appreciates the help of TTP. Let me wish all of you who read this post the very best this business holds for us. It's there; be patient.

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the vendor has already been booted from this tread for trying to hide his I.D. i would take some of theses glowing reviews with a pinch of salt. 8,000 is a lot to spend on any software with out a trail. just trust me ..

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Just a clarification, Dan wasnít booted from this forum but one of his former employees who tried to settle score wth one of the members here.


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the vendor has already been booted from this tread for trying to hide his I.D. i would take some of theses glowing reviews with a pinch of salt. 8,000 is a lot to spend on any software with out a trail. just trust me ..


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Thanks for clarifying THE FACT that Daniel Roe of Trade The Plan has NOT been booted from this great forum of traders. Dan is a man of integrity and great character. One day I hope he visits the farm in TN.

My very best to all traders,

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Thanks for clarifying THE FACT that Daniel Roe of Trade The Plan has NOT been booted from this great forum of traders. Dan is a man of integrity and great character. One day I hope he visits the farm in TN.

My very best to all traders,

Grey Feather

i am not saying you are but your going over board bro. there is one mask vendor booted from this tread. if there using a mask you do not know how they are for 100% sure

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the vendor has already been booted from this tread for trying to hide his I.D. i would take some of theses glowing reviews with a pinch of salt. 8,000 is a lot to spend on any software with out a trail. just trust me ..

I don't trust you and think it's obvious you have no idea what you're talking about. Your poorly written slander towards Dan is baseless and given your lack of involvement with this company and overall experience level in the trading world, it serves the people viewing this thread more benefit to take your opinions lightly. Or perhaps to put it differently, with a pinch of salt.

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i am not saying you are but your going over board bro. there is one mask vendor booted from this tread. if there using a mask you do not know how they are for 100% sure

Clinton Kemp is not a vendor. He was Dan's admin helper. Basically an email responder. Anyone who emailed TTP over the past couple years got a response from Clint.

He's been let go.

There's no hidden vendor conspiracy here.

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does it not... or are you now running the forum to.

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does it not... or are you now running the forum to.

Haha, no.

Actually, I barely visit this forum anymore. For the most part, It doesn't offer me any value I haven't already found and I try my best not to waste time in nonsensical arguments with people on the internet. Like this one.

I would imagine that from the backends perspective "Hidden Vendor" is an easier Tag then, "Used to work for the vendor as an administrative assistant but got let go and is just being petty with someone on this thread about an argument they had over an email opt out"

Anyways, this about does it for me on this thread.

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What makes Daniel Roe being above 99% of mentors and "traders" in this business is the fact he is making real money trading his system and you can see this if asking him to show you his trading account.
I can't stand all those self-proclaimed trading mentors which will tell you it is not important how much money they are making because "every trader is different and my money does not matter for you".
This affirmation is working hand in hand with the false one stating that "Many trading system are good and you can make money with them"..well, could be many but no one is capable to show you the guy making money with them willing to prove that by his trading account.
If Daniel's trading approach fits you it is another story but at least you can start your due diligence with a guy who is indeed making money trading not selling a bunch of indicators and making money just in market replay during webinars.

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I've been using TTP's tools for 4+ yrs and thought it was time to publicly give them a shoutout. The tools (without doubt) have helped me be more efficient and make more precise trading decision's. They've created a very well rounded set of tools. The Toolbar alone is worth the price of an Ultimate Membership.
The increase in charting efficiency by using the toolbar for marking up the charts has helped me save a lot of time and subsequently allowed me to spend more time analyzing. Not to mention how valuable their Volume and Divergence tools are. Now, don't get me wrong...TTP, like any other provider, has gone thru growing pains, bugs, etc over the years. However, they were alway's working overtime to fix issues/bugs, improve their offering(s), and communicate to their user's. Can't ask for more than that imo. Their product line today is as professional as I've seen in the past 25 yrs. I don't have any affiliation with TTP other than being an end user so this is straight from the gut. Solid tools and good people behind it all. Thanks TTP!

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"Interestingly when I started trading now 25 years ago, I studied everything I could find on technical analysis. Elliot wave theory, the use of channels, the Andrew pitch fork etc. When I called Daniel Roe 2 years ago asking him if he could help improving my automatic trading system with element of his suite of tools, his answer was: of course ! But have a look at my TTP tools first and see if that is what you want! And since then I am hooked to the TTP suite of tools! It has everything that a technical trader needs ! Highly recommended."

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 PilotTrader 
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A few months ago, I purchased the TTP Divergent Analyst from this company (on sale for great discount during a Black Friday offering) and have been using this indicator to supplement my trading strategy. So far, I have been extremely satisfied with the product, and also with TTP. However, I had an issue with the indicator/software and reached out to their support email address. I am up to my 4th request attempt seeking assistance for my problem but have not gotten any response whatsoever. I have simply gotten their automated reply stating that a ticket has been created. I thought this was uncharacteristic for this company to simply ignore my emails and requests for assistance since they have been very responsive in the past.

Does anyone here, existing clients or otherwise, have any news about TTP? Is the company debunked? Is anybody else having any issues getting support? Thank you for any info on this matter.

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 dk27 
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Below is the latest communication from them 22nd of December.

Many of you have been concerned about the lack of communication from Trade The Plan. We want to offer a brief explanation of the issues Dan has encountered and offer our apologies for not sending out a notice earlier.

Network Hardening
As some of you know, he's been, and still is, the target of a professional cybercriminal who seems to hold a personal vendetta against him. I reiterate that it's a personal attack, and as all our membership data is stored by a third-party offsite, we can assure you that your information remains secure.

He is working on rebuilding a more secure personal network with the help of cybersecurity experts and conducting further threat analysis. Due to the nature of this crime, he must remain isolated entirely from our company systems as not to affect their integrity.

Weekly Market Prep
Dan was planning to run the Weekly Market Prep last Sunday evening. However, his network wasn't quite ready in time, and therefore unable to send out a notice to members.

We are working to the best of our abilities to resolve this as soon as possible and will update you should any more information come to light. Until then, please bear with us and know that we are still very much in business.


P.S. If you have an outstanding ticket with Support, Cedric (our support agent) has been on leave, so please allow him some time to catch up.



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A few months ago, I purchased the TTP Divergent Analyst from this company (on sale for great discount during a Black Friday offering) and have been using this indicator to supplement my trading strategy. So far, I have been extremely satisfied with the product, and also with TTP. However, I had an issue with the indicator/software and reached out to their support email address. I am up to my 4th request attempt seeking assistance for my problem but have not gotten any response whatsoever. I have simply gotten their automated reply stating that a ticket has been created. I thought this was uncharacteristic for this company to simply ignore my emails and requests for assistance since they have been very responsive in the past.

Does anyone here, existing clients or otherwise, have any news about TTP? Is the company debunked? Is anybody else having any issues getting support? Thank you for any info on this matter.

Regards,
Ricardo aka "PilotTrader"



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Hi all, It is now March of 2021. I am a new poster here and I just purchased TTP MasterSuite but have had no response from their support. I am very thankful for this latest post from dk27. I will call upon my vast supply of patience and just wish Daniel and the group best wishes toward getting their issues resolved. (Though it would be nice to at least get to download the tools I purchased). Be well.

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I think itís not acceptable still to have issues two month later.



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Hi all, It is now March of 2021. I am a new poster here and I just purchased TTP MasterSuite but have had no response from their support. I am very thankful for this latest post from dk27. I will call upon my vast supply of patience and just wish Daniel and the group best wishes toward getting their issues resolved. (Though it would be nice to at least get to download the tools I purchased). Be well.


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Here's a recent email I received a few days ago from Daniel Roe, founder of TradeThePlan:


Several people have questioned the status of TTP. This email is to reassure you that TTP is in good shape and that the staff are working hard to bring new software updates and content to our products and services.

All of you that have followed my presentations last year must have understood that I personally had difficult times and that I needed some time off to deal with the situation. I now can report that I am in the process of recovering and that I will soon be back online with market analysis and learning sessions.
In the meantime, TTP has also gotten some external support to strengthen the company. More details to be shared in the months to follow. All with the intention to support the customer base, to address the many questions and requests. We for sure want to serve you better in the future. The markets offer so many good opportunities that we see lots of new content developing. However, this all-needs resources and time to develop.

Analysis Live
I also want to point out that Bo has been delivering daily analysis and updates on the various markets. I trust that you appreciate the work of Bo. I am personally impressed by his consistency and dedication. Those who have not been following Bo, please do so and listen to his short video messages and give feedback on his work. He will gladly respond to your questions.

Software Updates
Our goal to get all users on the latest software versions as soon as possible. New installers will become available within the next several days. When you have installed the latest software version, you will automatically get notified of software updates, and when enabled, the latest version will be installed, automatically when restarting NinjaTrader.

Support System Overhaul
It is also important to note that the TTP website, Membership Portal, Helpdesk and Forum will soon have a new face. We decided to consolidate these services into one platform We have almost finished the changeover to the new website. In this process, we probably have lost some support ticket requests. I, therefore, encourage everyone to resubmit a request to make sure that the request is not lost in the transition phase.

I want to thank you all for your patience and do apologize for the delay in coming back to you. Wishing you all the best, good health, and see you online soon.

Daniel Roe
So, this is positive news and I hope they will be able to provide support very soon. I, for one, have been waiting patiently on several support ticket items that are somewhat critical to my trading process.

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I have used TTP''s tools (not all, I don't use the tool bar) Divergence Analyst and Volume Analyst. I have really enjoyed them. Honestly, the support has suffered the last few months but I'm hoping they can turn it around. I would say the tools are still worth it. If someone was considering purchasing I still would. TTP uses a lot of market geometry so if you are interested in that style, reading up on Timothy Morge should help while TTP gets their support back up to where it used to be.

That being said, I trade S&R. Here's an example from the ZB contract on 10 minutes. If anybody has any questions DM me.





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I still believe these are the best tools I have ever come across. I honestly do not know how they could get any better. I am not sure how many times over they have paid for themselves at this point, but I can promise you it is exponential in my case. Also, I have not found anyone who is a better mentor than Mr. Roe.

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I thought it might be ok to post this here. It's a template that utilizes Trade the plan dot com Divergence and volume analyst with multi day volume profiles from NT8's order flow plus.
If you have the ROE bars even better. Just use the time frame tuner to dial in the product you are trading.




If this isn't an ok place to post this, let me know.

Brett

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