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Waverly Advisors

I'm engaging in a 30 day free trial. I'm interested to know if anyone on the forum has used them, and what they thought.

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I subscribed back in January and have been very happy with the decision.

Initially I was reluctant to sign up for yet another "newsletter". But Waverly scheduled a personal phone call with me and Adam Grimes himself convinced me by pointing out that the cost is really one of ongoing education and not for a trade service. At the time I had just finished reading his book so the argument made sense.

Now some YMMV disclaimers.
  • If you haven't already read Adam's Book and watch his webinar here. Those will give you a feel for how he trades and his philosophy. Some folks, like me, gravitate to it immediately. Others not so much. He takes on a lot of trading "Sacred Cows" and not everyone agrees with his conclusions.
  • The subscription service focuses (mostly) on swing trades using the daily, weekly, and monthly time frames. It's a very different mindset when moving up from the minuscule day trading charts. Again, not everyone's cup of tea.
  • Waverly trades big moves and uses big stops. Like in dollars on something like oil, not cents. So to trade futures that way takes a very large account. The good news is that most trades can be executed via an ETF which makes trading a smaller account quite reasonable. Expect unleveraged returns accordingly.

Adam is an excellent voice of reason and calm in the often chaotic market. I've gotten to the point where I hardly follow any financial news at all anymore. Learning to tune out the noise has been a major benefit of being a subscriber.

I have spent an embarrassing amount of money on various "systems" and "training" through the years. 99% of it was useless. My Waverly subscription is in that 1% that I have absolutely no regrets about and feel it really does make me a better trader.

Oh, and yes, I have actually made money following his advice.

If you decide to subscribe let me know. I'd be interested in hearing about your experience.

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...most trades can be executed via an ETF...

I've been curious about this, and some of his single stock plans. But, primarily I would be interested in using his futures analysis to trade ETFs in my IRA since the broker doesn't allow futures trading. How do you translate his stops and targets to an ETF form say, the ES?

I have the follow up call coming and a bunch of videos to view and other material to read that will hopefully help me get the most out of it.

I have not yet found a trade to execute from it so far, the price is not unreasonable but will have to be justified by a cost/benefit analysis that results in a net gain.

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I've been curious about this, and some of his single stock plans. But, primarily I would be interested in using his futures analysis to trade ETFs in my IRA since the broker doesn't allow futures trading. How do you translate his stops and targets to an ETF form say, the ES?

I have the follow up call coming and a bunch of videos to view and other material to read that will hopefully help me get the most out of it.

I have not yet found a trade to execute from it so far, the price is not unreasonable but will have to be justified by a cost/benefit analysis that results in a net gain.

Translating the levels does take a bit of judgement. I can't say that I do much more than eyeball the charts. Much of the market structure is similar between the instruments and you can manually calculate.

I also watch the published trades closely. You can pretty well tell when trades are ready to come off. Luckily it's not like day trading where you have to wait for a super precise entry/exit.

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Impressed so far

I will give them this, Today was spectacularly volatile and challenged many of the thesis' they presented in their reports of late. They had a special update webinar posted by 4:26pm to appraise their clients of the current situation and how it effected the tactical outline they presented last night.

Overall I'm suitably impressed by the service so far.

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I will give them this, Today was spectacularly volatile and challenged many of the thesis' they presented in their reports of late. They had a special update webinar posted by 4:26pm to appraise their clients of the current situation and how it effected the tactical outline they presented last night.

Overall I'm suitably impressed by the service so far.

That was an interesting update. And very typical of his analysis. In particular I like how he keeps these days in perspective and explains how they relate to the larger market structure. It's a refreshing alternative to the knee-jerk hyperbole one finds in the mainstream financial media.

Something he said in the update really stood out - "We were wrong on direction but right on the risk." It has been a while since he had something move against him this forcefully. Yet just took it in stride.

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"We were wrong on direction but right on the risk."

Wasn't entirely sure how to take that. Does that mean that the initial stop wasn't tripped, keeping them in the trade? I'll be interested to read the analysis tonight.

Early this morning I left the ES trade that was triggered realizing that it was not responding the way I anticipated based on their analysis and cautious because of the warning of a potential downside break. I lost a bit on my exit. I agree with your earlier statement about them not necessarily giving you trades to execute- but helping you to apply the analysis (theirs or your own) into practical trade plans. It's good stuff and if it proves profitable enough I will definitely be subscribing.

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I subscribed back in January and have been very happy with the decision.

Oh, and yes, I have actually made money following his advice.

If you decide to subscribe let me know. I'd be interested in hearing about your experience.


That was an excellent review.

I have the call next week with Chris and am considering taking up the service next year.

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That was an excellent review.

I have the call next week with Chris and am considering taking up the service next year.

Thank you for the kind words.

One of the other nice aspects of the service is that Chris and Adam are accessible. It has more of a "boutique" feel rather than a mass mailing.

This year they actually gave subscribers an opportunity to schedule an appointment and talk, on the phone, about what they liked and didn't like about the program. It was an unusually proactive step and greatly impressed me.

The content and service are very professional.

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