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Yes I think he is

Could you DM with contact information?

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^ Yummy, now shilling a mentoring service.

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^ Yummy, now shilling a mentoring service.

No, I refuse to post it publicly and will no longer respond privately when asked about it. All of the kewltech people come out of the wood work, and I don't want any part of that.

This is my last post in this thread and about kewltech /unsubscribed

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No, I refuse to post it publicly and will no longer respond privately when asked about it. All of the kewltech people come out of the wood work, and I don't want any part of that.

This is my last post in this thread and about kewltech /unsubscribed

Not sure who "the kewltech people" are but someone else told me about Kewltech through the WayBack link and noticed some notable names mentioned in it but I just went at it from there to learn it.

I just don't know why you lashed out against the DopeTrades/KewlTech PDF which had helpful tips on trading. Sure it's pretty common, but it's much easier to see the videos/examples especially when it's pretty tough to find it online. Closest that comes to it is Sam Seidens videos but his methods are just one part of the strategy.

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Hi So I have been learning kewltech and this style of trading for over a year now, but I just cannot become profitable, have any of you become profitable trading this? because I know it makes sense, hindsight is as clear as day and it's even easy to get the general direction right, but I'm just struggling with my entries and planning of a trade.

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Hi So I have been learning kewltech and this style of trading for over a year now, but I just cannot become profitable, have any of you become profitable trading this?


Iíve looked at the beginning of this thread and it seems a little thin on details. Do you have all the info on how to plot the levels correctly?

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Iíve looked at the beginning of this thread and it seems a little thin on details. Do you have all the info on how to plot the levels correctly?

Well I'm not sure, I gathered that the level should be at the legstart for a new leg and should be based off the second lowest swing low for a buy order and that the stop loss should be just below the lowest swing low with tp being the legstart for the down leg that has just took place to allow price to enter your trade in the first place, is this right? thats what someone said who i spoke too, and i seen it referenced on the occams razor issue, I also strugle with confirming the trade like has it accumulated enough and progression. Thanks

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Mattwj everyone is smart in hindsight. Be critical when you're placing trades with real money based on some people here who are looking at price's end result and applying their "Bible" of knowledge to it as if they would have in real time...lol.

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Well I'm not sure...

What does it mean? Are you guessing?


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I gathered that the level should be at the legstart for a new leg and should be based off the second lowest swing low...is this right?

Define a legstart, please...

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Mattwj everyone is smart in hindsight. Be critical when you're placing trades with real money based on some people here who are looking at price's end result and applying their "Bible" of knowledge to it as if they would have in real time...lol.

Yeah that is the problem I have it does make sense afterwards but it always will lol, I know I can do it because a while ago I had a good mentality towards it and was making great trades which had reason behind it but now i'm getting crushed in the markets, like I know the general direction but always end up with no entry or a poor entry, and I don't know what I'm forgetting, traders always say trust your system or something and it will work out in the long run but with this style of trading how do you even make a system.

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What does it mean? Are you guessing?



Define a legstart, please...

Well, I originally got taught this by some guy who had been doing it since the original days when they were publishing the blog, and he introduced a lot of this terminology but to be fair I have seen the terminology referenced in the blog, Lakai and other peoples blogs about kewltech, so I think it is accurate.



A photo is the best way to illustrate but a legstart is basically the level of support that was made off the move downwards or upwards.

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...but a legstart is basically the level of support that was made off the move downwards or upwards.

It is an ambiguous definition...Plot a simple moving average (50) and start thinking in terms of a frame control. Which frame controls a swing? Is it daily, weekly, monthly, all of the above? Start with a daily range. Divide a daily range in half. Is the price above or below the daily 50? Is the price above or below the 50 simple moving average?

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It is an ambiguous definition...Plot a simple moving average (50) and start thinking in terms of a frame control. Which frame controls a swing? Is it daily, weekly, monthly, all of the above? Start with a daily range. Divide a daily range in half. Is the price above or below the daily 50? Is the price above or below the 50 simple moving average?

Can you elaborate? Currently, 50 MA is below price on all time frames except for the 1 minute and the monthly. What does this mean?

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Can you elaborate? Currently, 50 MA is below price on all time frames except for the 1 minute and the monthly. What does this mean?

What are you trading? I only trade ES and RTY, on 15-minutes. The lowest time frame I use is 3 minutes, but not for the frame analysis.

If the price is below the 50 MA, it means that we are in a downtrend. Here is a little exercise to gain some perspective. Plot the 50 MA on 15 minutes and, if you have a multi-timeframe MA, on that same chart, plot the 50 MA on 1 hour. Always include the data for the full session, so include an overnight (Globex) data. What do you see?

The price always comes back to the 50, basically every day. On a very basic level, if the 15-min 50 MA is below the 1 hour 50 MA, we are in a downtrend. What does it mean? It means that you should not be taking long trades. The odds favor going short, and vice versa. Of course, you can take long trades in a downtrend and you can take short trades in an uptrend, as long as you realize that you're taking counter-trend trades, which inherently have a higher risk.

Now, let's take it a step further. Take a prior day's range (full range, including an overnight session), divide it in half, and plot the high, low and the half (the 50% line) and carry over those lines into the current day. Do that for all days and see how the price reacts to the 50% line.

If the price opens inside a prior day's range, which it almost always does, this is the most immediate frame that controls a retracement up or down of the current day. The price will test the 50% line almost every day. The 1st test is the highest probability trade, the 1st touch. An expected behavior is a reversal.

This is very basic. There are more details, but get comfortable with this first, then we can take it further.

Here is an example of a single frame controlling four days of the price action:

https://www.screencast.com/t/bSRdYVcIeW

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What are you trading? I only trade ES and RTY, on 15-minutes. The lowest time frame I use is 3 minutes, but not for the frame analysis.

Just regular stocks. I looked into the moving averages on multiple time frames indicator but couldn't really find one for the platforms I use. I sorta get the gist of the image you provided though.

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Are after hours and pre-market price movements counted with kewltech's method? Most of the examples he uses are with the /ES so I assume they do count. Some charting platforms don't show extended hours trading so wondering if those charts should even be relied on or not.

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Just regular stocks. I looked into the moving averages on multiple time frames indicator but couldn't really find one for the platforms I use. I sorta get the gist of the image you provided though.

You can use the simple 50 MA as a trigger. In fact, there is a very good mechanical system that uses this method as its main trigger, but it has a few more components.

The frame control and retracements work on anything with good liquidity (volume), but as far as I know, this style of trading works best on futures.

Are you interested in daytrading or position trading? If you're interested in holding overnight, there is a much simpler and better system out there. In fact, it is not really a system, it is just one simple indicator (the Clear Method). I know it works great on RTY and probably other futures, but don't know about stocks.

What platform do you use? If it is Thinkorswim, I can probably give you almost anything you need. I have been using it for more than 10 years. If it is Ninja, I don't know much about it yet, just started using it a few days ago.

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Are after hours and pre-market price movements counted with kewltech's method? Most of the examples he uses are with the /ES so I assume they do count. Some charting platforms don't show extended hours trading so wondering if those charts should even be relied on or not.

After hours trading, even on futures, is low volume. On stocks, it is probably even less active. But you don't want to exclude it, because you would not be looking at a complete data set. Again, I don't know much about stocks, but on futures, you want to include an overnight session.

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You can use the simple 50 MA as a trigger. In fact, there is a very good mechanical system that uses this method as its main trigger, but it has a few more components.

The frame control and retracements work on anything with good liquidity (volume), but as far as I know, this style of trading works best on futures.

Are you interested in daytrading or position trading? If you're interested in holding overnight, there is a much simpler and better system out there. In fact, it is not really a system, it is just one simple indicator (the Clear Method). I know it works great on RTY and probably other futures, but don't know about stocks.

What platform do you use? If it is Thinkorswim, I can probably give you almost anything you need. I have been using it for more than 10 years. If it is Ninja, I don't know much about it yet, just started using it a few days ago.

I use TOS. I currently do both day trading and swing trading but mainly swing trading and only for stocks. I mainly trade SPY though if that matters.

I looked up the clear method (lowest high, highest low), I assume that's the one. Got a TOS indicator for that? I'd like to see it in action with stocks. Or is that something that has to be done manually?

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Got a TOS indicator for that?

I like this one because it is in the spirit of the "frame control" and does not lag. It is based on a range, for the price action to change, the range - or the "frame" - has to change...Don't know how well it works on stocks, but it does work well on futures, such as RTY, for example, on a Daily. It also works well intraday, but not in isolation. Just like on a daily, an intraday price action is ruled by prior ranges.

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I have a PDF of the entire blog

Hello everybody,
this is a very nice Thread. I loved reading through.
As I cant find any information on the kewltech Blog could sb. (maybe 1zach4) please send me the blog pdf so i have a litte bit more of context?
That would be so great! Thank you so much!
All the best!

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Hello everybody,
this is a very nice Thread. I loved reading through.
As I cant find any information on the kewltech Blog could sb. (maybe 1zach4) please send me the blog pdf so i have a litte bit more of context?
That would be so great! Thank you so much!
All the best!

I deleted my copy, better ways to learn market structure than reading stuff that was made vague on purpose. Heard people that learned directly from the guy have lost hundreds of thousands in the process anyway. People need to stop going so nuts over "kewltech"

It is support/resistance/trend structure and other people teach it/explain it better.

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DISCLAIMER: The chart was analyzed in hindsight after the market closed... It's New Years Eve.

I've been studying KewlTech for a little bit, but have found that it is too discretionary for my current level of trading. However, I don't see why I can't analyze the markets and glean knowledge from his trading as well as discuss the various aspects of his trading.


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Article 8: Rising and falling wedges represent the basic cyclical waves that generally describe the movement of the market. If you press the issue hard enough you should be able to draw a series of bull wedges and then bear wedges one after the other.

We can expand on this concept by identifying price consolidating between a supply and demand zone on an anchor chart. Once we have identified a likely range day, we can begin looking for this cyclical market movement behavior of rising and falling wedges. Using the price action of wedges with MACD confirmation, we can find clear entries and exits. In this example posted, I have used the MACD crossovers as both entry and exit signals with stop losses at the nearest swing low or high. Taking conservative price confirming entries and exits, we can see that perfect trading would have yielded over 50 ticks with 2 winners, 1 loser, and 1 scratch (The final channel break happened within a few minutes and I excluded it). Happy New Years!

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DISCLAIMER: The chart was analyzed in hindsight after the market closed... It's New Years Eve.

I've been studying KewlTech for a little bit, but have found that it is too discretionary for my current level of trading. However, I don't see why I can't analyze the markets and glean knowledge from his trading as well as discuss the various aspects of his trading.



We can expand on this concept by identifying price consolidating between a supply and demand zone on an anchor chart. Once we have identified a likely range day, we can begin looking for this cyclical market movement behavior of rising and falling wedges. Using the price action of wedges with MACD confirmation, we can find clear entries and exits. In this example posted, I have used the MACD crossovers as both entry and exit signals with stop losses at the nearest swing low or high. Taking conservative price confirming entries and exits, we can see that perfect trading would have yielded over 50 ticks with 2 winners, 1 loser, and 1 scratch (The final channel break happened within a few minutes and I excluded it). Happy New Years!


Happy New year!

Thanks for the insight. I find it really interesting

I am wondering if you can tell me when you will consider "the likely range day"? Is it when it first break out of a bear/bull wedge channel?

Thanks!

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I am wondering if you can tell me when you will consider "the likely range day"? Is it when it first break out of a bear/bull wedge channel?

I am looking at the wedges and channels that form inside a range day to trade off of. I don't use them to identify range days. Instead I like to locate consolidation (accumulation or distribution) on a higher timeframe and look for a supply and demand zone (resistance and support) that is sandwiching price. As long as the market has a memory, price will move from level to level and we can trade off of this by identifying where price is relative to those zones. For example, if price dramatically breaks a demand zone or there is a retest continuation then we have a degree of confidence that the market is going to be bearish. The opposite is true for a bullish case. If you look at /ES 60 minute, you can see that we've been bumping between supply and demand zones for the past couple days and this last Globex session gave us a clue for the daily range. While we broke a demand zone, there wasn't a successful retest and price moved back above the demand zone signalling there was still enough demand to stop or stall a strong trend day.


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I have a PDF of the entire blog

I'd also like a copy if that's okay

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I'd also like a copy if that's okay


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I deleted my copy, better ways to learn market structure than reading stuff that was made vague on purpose. Heard people that learned directly from the guy have lost hundreds of thousands in the process anyway. People need to stop going so nuts over "kewltech"

It is support/resistance/trend structure and other people teach it/explain it better.

As I stated before, I deleted my copy.

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I have a PDF of the entire blog

Do you mind if I have a copy

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Do you mind if I have a copy

How many times do I have to say this:

I DO NOT HAVE A COPY

Someone please delete my original post

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Hi, anyone still have the videos from this course? The link in the book is not working

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I would like a copy of the log if you are willing to share also

Don laing

Mind if I get a copy of the blog?

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Hi, anyone still have the videos from this course? The link in the book is not working

I know where you can find everything. What you have is a stolen work that is not Kewltech. What you have included the KT blog and another individual's work that is unrelated. If you did not pay for it, you stole it... and well, I don't condone theft. Good luck to you.

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The videos are not particularly good in my opinion, I have them but do not think they add much to the blog posts.

I feel much more can be learnt from the TradeItDontDateIt videos, although I note a few of the more interesting videos have been taken down. There was a commentary video as he traded the open with Dawg that I have, it was a good insight as to how they traded back then and how they analysed the market, as well as the type of trades they took.

I note that those who have suggested 'others teach market structure better' have not put forward any names, I think that says a lot , it would be interesting if they could provide some. KT was not written perfectly by any stretch, but a lot of the concepts in those posts I have yet to find anywhere else online or in books.

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I can't reply to PMs yet as the site does not allow it until I reach 5 posts (which makes no sense re replying to someone else), but someone sent me one about access to the course videos. As I said in my post above, I do not think they actually add anything to the blog posts so I am not that keen on sharing them.

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I can't reply to PMs yet as the site does not allow it until I reach 5 posts (which makes no sense re replying to someone else), but someone sent me one about access to the course videos. As I said in my post above, I do not think they actually add anything to the blog posts so I am not that keen on sharing them.


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The videos are not particularly good in my opinion, I have them but do not think they add much to the blog posts.

I feel much more can be learnt from the TradeItDontDateIt videos, although I note a few of the more interesting videos have been taken down. There was a commentary video as he traded the open with Dawg that I have, it was a good insight as to how they traded back then and how they analysed the market, as well as the type of trades they took.

I note that those who have suggested 'others teach market structure better' have not put forward any names, I think that says a lot , it would be interesting if they could provide some. KT was not written perfectly by any stretch, but a lot of the concepts in those posts I have yet to find anywhere else online or in books.


hello,

I was hoping you would share the tradeitdontdate it videos. I apologize for the confusion

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hello,

I was hoping you would share the tradeitdontdate it videos. I apologize for the confusion

Ah those videos I definitely would not share, I have never spoken to Lak or had any dealings with him whatsoever, but his videos have been a huge help to my trading and I respect him too much to start distributing his videos to random people. There is probably a reason he has taken them down, so I would want to respect that - sorry.

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the most complete file so far. I think the best thing about it is its kool name. As far as the idea presented in each chapter none of them is new you can google each chapter header and get hit with tons of info.

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the most complete file so far. I think the best thing about it is its kool name. As far as the idea presented in each chapter none of them is new you can google each chapter header and get hit with tons of info.

There is nothing new under the sun as they say

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Thanks for the reply TraderRich. What you posted has helped me a little. I've read it twice now but also going back to re-reading and picking up new things each time. Main parts I struggle with is that in some of the examples and explanations, the logic and explanation is simple in hindsight with the explanations marked but it can also be somewhat contradictory in the way, you can see the same kind of setups on the charts he is showing where what he says wouldn't have worked out.

I think the more I read it, it becomes that this is not a strategy or method in anyway, it's more just how the market moves and why it moves the way it does and it's then down your subjectivity on how to trade the chart with this knowledge.

I've been trading on and off the past few years however the last 6 months, I have been out of work so now been spending more or less full time hours into research and study with the hopes of being able to make a living from it.

So far I have been looking for a timeframe that is accu/dist. For example say the 60 minute is showing signs of accumulation, I then go down into the 30 minute to see accu started slightly earlier, then down into the 15 to see this started to accu slightly earlier that the other 2. Which is logical, momentum starts in the lower timeframes into the higher. You also see the same kind of chart patterns as momentum gains like this. I then revert back to the higher timeframe (60min) to see if we are approaching some form of support or approaching the end of a leg. I will look for any first touch opportunities to play long and then go back to the lower timeframe (15 min) to look for some kind of bull pattern for long entries and target the previous legs last lost support above

I have been looking at exact points rather than areas and in some cases, I have actually seen price touch to the exact pip and repel but I guess it's best to target areas given the subjectivity.

Do you use the MACD as confirmation of accu/dist or just the price action? I'd be interested in how you or anyone else usually go about finding or taking trades using kewltechs info to try and gain some more knowledge?


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Hi Genkigenki,

I am no expert or master by any means as I am still learning myself. Thanks for posting this to continue the learning opportunity for everyone in this thread. I start reading his method 4years ago and I also find his method/idea to be invaluable, a key stepping stone on my learning curve. I read his method few times and still couldn't understand it. I still need go back to review every now and then. I am not sure how long you have been trading or what stage you're in but here are my 2 cents about this for discussion.

"My understanding is:
Support is lost when price falls below the swing low that brought you to the swing high (the low is now your resistance on the way back up)
Support is gained when price moves above the high that brought you to the low (support is now the high on any retest back down)"

You understand is pretty much on point. You can also think of support lost/gain as the following if its easier:
Support lost: The level/zone of demand where the price has previously found bottom but now it has broken lower. It will become zone/level of supply when the price goes back up to it
Support gain: The level/zone of supply where the price has previously found the top but now it has broken higher. It will become zone/level of demand when the price goes back down to it.

"It's also my understanding that upon first test of either support gained or support lost, it is likely there will be a repel either large or small depending on where it is in the trend and timeframe."

That is generally true. Once it broke below demand zone/level and then goes back up to it, it will generally become a supply area and expect some sell off to happen. The intensity of that sell off, like you said, depends on the time frame and your overall view on the trend on your time frame. The winning side of bull vs. bear.

"I've attached one of the photos from the book on it for clarity in what I'm asking. The yellow boxes are supposedly the first test which is clear on the first support lost but my question is the other support lost and gained, there is clear upper and lower wicks with ranges back up and below the support lost/gained. How do you class a support lost/gained as "Untested""

I think you shouldn't expect the level to get tested perfectly. If it the perfect level bothers you, try think of it as a "zone", the area from the close of the candle bar to its tail of the candle bar.

Attachment is your graph with some added labeling.

At point (1), your dash line, you should look further to the left to see that's support gain level from before but from what I see, you are correct. At point 2, you should also see if that's a significant level from before. It did hold support and test back up to your dash-level as first test before testing point (2) level again.

To Me, at point (3), the first level you labeled "gained" at about $56.28, the first candle to go back to touch the previous level is first test scenario which is the bar right after the green bar the finishes above $56.28, Thus, the first test is already done. From then on, when it tests, you should see it just as testing support or demand zone and assess the potential outcome based on how the candle from the time frame you are trading react at that zone. In this case, it did went back down to touch $56.28 but the candle never finish near it. To me, I see more bullish and heavy demand at $56.28

At point (4), that is the first time it test $56.71 since it support lost at around 16:00. Same goes to point (6) and your third yellow box.

Going to the right, or future, I will wait for it to break level (7) a pull back to level (7)as first touch and then enter for long, risking off the most recent support gain to the left and target level (8).

Again, I am still learning myself and no expert. Just my 2 cent to what I understand. I do hope some of these made sense and helped clear your mind a bit.

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Thanks for the reply TraderRich. What you posted has helped me a little. I've read it twice now but also going back to re-reading and picking up new things each time. Main parts I struggle with is that in some of the examples and explanations, the logic and explanation is simple in hindsight with the explanations marked but it can also be somewhat contradictory in the way, you can see the same kind of setups on the charts he is showing where what he says wouldn't have worked out.

I think the more I read it, it becomes that this is not a strategy or method in anyway, it's more just how the market moves and why it moves the way it does and it's then down your subjectivity on how to trade the chart with this knowledge.

I've been trading on and off the past few years however the last 6 months, I have been out of work so now been spending more or less full time hours into research and study with the hopes of being able to make a living from it.

So far I have been looking for a timeframe that is accu/dist. For example say the 60 minute is showing signs of accumulation, I then go down into the 30 minute to see accu started slightly earlier, then down into the 15 to see this started to accu slightly earlier that the other 2. Which is logical, momentum starts in the lower timeframes into the higher. You also see the same kind of chart patterns as momentum gains like this. I then revert back to the higher timeframe (60min) to see if we are approaching some form of support or approaching the end of a leg. I will look for any first touch opportunities to play long and then go back to the lower timeframe (15 min) to look for some kind of bull pattern for long entries and target the previous legs last lost support above

I have been looking at exact points rather than areas and in some cases, I have actually seen price touch to the exact pip and repel but I guess it's best to target areas given the subjectivity.

Do you use the MACD as confirmation of accu/dist or just the price action? I'd be interested in how you or anyone else usually go about finding or taking trades using kewltechs info to try and gain some more knowledge?


Hi Genkigenki,

"Main parts I struggle with is that in some of the examples and explanations, the logic and explanation is simple in hindsight with the explanations marked but it can also be somewhat contradictory in the way, you can see the same kind of setups on the charts he is showing where what he says wouldn't have worked out.
I think the more I read it, it becomes that this is not a strategy or method in anyway, it's more just how the market moves and why it moves the way it does and it's then down your subjectivity on how to trade the chart with this knowledge."

That's the similar struggle I went through when I first read his blog. When I apply his technique, it fails. And then i realized, is not that his technique is not right but rather, i didn't have the correct mindset and approach to the market.
here are my 2 cent on how you should view his technique:
Like you said, his technique is more a like guide on why the market moves the way it does. Therefore, treat it as such or as one of your ingredient to your recipe. Your goal is not to "find" the strategy that works 100% of the time but rather your goal is to "develop" a strategy, or recipe, with different guidelines ,or different ingredient, that suits you best and give you the best chance to work 70% of the time. You have all the ingredients in the chart. The most difficult part is to find a way to put them all together to your advantage. There's no way around it. It all comes down to trail and error or, research, practice and repeat.

"So far I have been looking for a timeframe that is accu/dist. For example say the 60 minute is showing signs of accumulation, I then go down into the 30 minute to see accu started slightly earlier, then down into the 15 to see this started to accu slightly earlier that the other 2. Which is logical, momentum starts in the lower timeframes into the higher. You also see the same kind of chart patterns as momentum gains like this. I then revert back to the higher timeframe (60min) to see if we are approaching some form of support or approaching the end of a leg. I will look for any first touch opportunities to play long and then go back to the lower timeframe (15 min) to look for some kind of bull pattern for long entries and target the previous legs last lost support above"

I think you have the right approach to gauge momentum. I think you should also give more attention to your main time frame first before going down to lower time frame. For example, if 60min is your main time frame, you can evaluate your 60min chart to see what it had done recently, what the overall trend is and what your expectations are (e.g. are you thinking bullish because it had just broken above a resistance and its MACD is showing higher lows/slope upward with more bullish coming in and expect some pullback/correction before it go back up again or are you thinking bearish because it had just broken below a support level with MACD showing lower highs/downward slope with bearish volume coming in and expect a pullback/correction before it goes back down again)

"I have been looking at exact points rather than areas and in some cases, I have actually seen price touch to the exact pip and repel but I guess it's best to target areas given the subjectivity"

Yes, it is true that it can go to the exact point. What i mean is, if it helps you, when you identified the zone of your support/resistance and the price didn't reach to that exact point, you know that it have came down to you area of interest for you to execute your plan.


"Do you use the MACD as confirmation of accu/dist or just the price action? I'd be interested in how you or anyone else usually go about finding or taking trades using kewltechs info to try and gain some more knowledge?"

I wouldn't say I use MACD as confirmation but more like I used to see the momentum in the lower time frame in respect to my main time frame. I use it along with price action. For example, my time frame is 60min. If it broke above a recent resistance and I am looking for a pullback/correction back that level as support, I will go down to 30min chart to see if it is distributing for it to make the correction/pullback or will just continuing up.

Hope it helps a bit.

Have a nice weekend!

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I know where you can find everything. What you have is a stolen work that is not Kewltech. What you have included the KT blog and another individual's work that is unrelated. If you did not pay for it, you stole it... and well, I don't condone theft. Good luck to you.

while I somewhat agree that it would be a stolen, if you didn't pay for it, but the thing in question is itself a stolen work from KT. so much for stealing LOL

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while I somewhat agree that it would be a stolen, if you didn't pay for it, but the thing in question is itself a stolen work from KT. so much for stealing LOL

I guess everything written about trading after 1930s is stolen from Dow, Wyckoff and all the gents that are responsible for modern TA. Don't be stupid. I know for a fact that that "stolen" work is actually copyrighted in US library of congress. Probably should do your homework, just saying.

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Hi Genkigenki,

"Main parts I struggle with is that in some of the examples and explanations, the logic and explanation is simple in hindsight with the explanations marked but it can also be somewhat contradictory in the way, you can see the same kind of setups on the charts he is showing where what he says wouldn't have worked out.
I think the more I read it, it becomes that this is not a strategy or method in anyway, it's more just how the market moves and why it moves the way it does and it's then down your subjectivity on how to trade the chart with this knowledge."

That's the similar struggle I went through when I first read his blog. When I apply his technique, it fails. And then i realized, is not that his technique is not right but rather, i didn't have the correct mindset and approach to the market.
here are my 2 cent on how you should view his technique:
Like you said, his technique is more a like guide on why the market moves the way it does. Therefore, treat it as such or as one of your ingredient to your recipe. Your goal is not to "find" the strategy that works 100% of the time but rather your goal is to "develop" a strategy, or recipe, with different guidelines ,or different ingredient, that suits you best and give you the best chance to work 70% of the time. You have all the ingredients in the chart. The most difficult part is to find a way to put them all together to your advantage. There's no way around it. It all comes down to trail and error or, research, practice and repeat.

"So far I have been looking for a timeframe that is accu/dist. For example say the 60 minute is showing signs of accumulation, I then go down into the 30 minute to see accu started slightly earlier, then down into the 15 to see this started to accu slightly earlier that the other 2. Which is logical, momentum starts in the lower timeframes into the higher. You also see the same kind of chart patterns as momentum gains like this. I then revert back to the higher timeframe (60min) to see if we are approaching some form of support or approaching the end of a leg. I will look for any first touch opportunities to play long and then go back to the lower timeframe (15 min) to look for some kind of bull pattern for long entries and target the previous legs last lost support above"

I think you have the right approach to gauge momentum. I think you should also give more attention to your main time frame first before going down to lower time frame. For example, if 60min is your main time frame, you can evaluate your 60min chart to see what it had done recently, what the overall trend is and what your expectations are (e.g. are you thinking bullish because it had just broken above a resistance and its MACD is showing higher lows/slope upward with more bullish coming in and expect some pullback/correction before it go back up again or are you thinking bearish because it had just broken below a support level with MACD showing lower highs/downward slope with bearish volume coming in and expect a pullback/correction before it goes back down again)

"I have been looking at exact points rather than areas and in some cases, I have actually seen price touch to the exact pip and repel but I guess it's best to target areas given the subjectivity"

Yes, it is true that it can go to the exact point. What i mean is, if it helps you, when you identified the zone of your support/resistance and the price didn't reach to that exact point, you know that it have came down to you area of interest for you to execute your plan.


"Do you use the MACD as confirmation of accu/dist or just the price action? I'd be interested in how you or anyone else usually go about finding or taking trades using kewltechs info to try and gain some more knowledge?"

I wouldn't say I use MACD as confirmation but more like I used to see the momentum in the lower time frame in respect to my main time frame. I use it along with price action. For example, my time frame is 60min. If it broke above a recent resistance and I am looking for a pullback/correction back that level as support, I will go down to 30min chart to see if it is distributing for it to make the correction/pullback or will just continuing up.

Hope it helps a bit.

Have a nice weekend!

I have been reading the kewltech for 3 years now. Im not successful by any means in day trading but here is what i learned. it is more or less same as what traderRich said.

1). S/R is a zone. Some zones have wider stops like 10/20 points, some zones have smaller stops like 5 points. I use daily/weekly/monthly zones.But 90 Percent of the zones will hold and make money. Trying to be precise with entry point and smaller stops will certainly make you lose money
2). the lower time frames are useful to see the momentum change in the zone like TraderRich said
3). if you want smaller stops that can be achieved but you have to wait for the retest of the level gained within the zone

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I guess everything written about trading after 1930s is stolen from Dow, Wyckoff and all the gents that are responsible for modern TA. Don't be stupid. I know for a fact that that "stolen" work is actually copyrighted in US library of congress. Probably should do your homework, just saying.

LOL ok sir, if that's what floats ur boat

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LOL ok sir, if that's what floats ur boat

Just stating facts. I've seen it. Have a good weekend.

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Seems like DopeTrades (Trader's Underground) really came down hard on that Kewitech's pdf.

Been searching for hours, trying to salvage any piece of info from it. Only Issue 83 to 89 is left.

Would appreciate a reply from anyone who managed to download it.

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I too have been becoming accustomed to this "micro/macro trend structure" trading, yet also do fail to always take the higher time frames into consideration- yet I doubt I will correctly be able to this without good fundamentals in the form of instructions, pics, explanations etc.

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It seems 1zach4 and Maricas69 has the best working knowledge of micro/macro trend structure in this thread.

I sure hope they come back to enlighten us a bit more, as it would be greatly appreciated.

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Are there any other sources online that someone in this thread can link us towards who trades using micro/macro trend structure?

So far it was this "former Goldman Sachs trader" who's twitter has not been linked. As well as tradeitdontdateitcom, who has deleted vital vids apparently.

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Do you guys reckon Kewitech traded for an institution, and this is why he knows micro/macro trend structure?

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Not necessarily Kewltech levels..just saw some posts on subject and looked and its basically how mkts, whatever it is, be futures, fx, individual stock etc moves. By moving to S or R what that does to momo and what MUST HAPPEN EITHER BEFORE OR AFTER ITS HIT to shift/reverse momo so it can react and go to opposite


Everything you wrote finally makes sense!!!! a year later. Thank you for taking the time to share this info.

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Its always in the CURRENT MOVE/Leg NOW and the move/leg being retraced NOW N HOW IT FITS to/from CURRENT IMPORTANT H/L if those didnt give the IMPORTANT H/L. Just whether ITS BEEN TESTED IN THE NOW or tested in the process of moving from R to S or from S to R n what that did to momo. Built Bearish or bullish momo. Thats what MOST MISS OUT ON. ONCE S OR R IS FOUND, HOW DOES IT FIT W THE BIGGER TF n what has to happen or HAS TO HAVE HAPPENED because of the momo of the move GENERATED BY MOVING TO THAT R OR S N EACH TIME THEREAFTER.

IMO really need to understand how trend/momo works and what really is S/R.

Good luck w your trading

Thanks for the explanation. Just to make sure I understand what you are saying, are you basically reiterating this:

ďFitting the move being retraced*NOW*from a significant high, low or congestion area, and the move you are currently in*NOW, with the move to its*IMMEDIATE LEFT FIRST, leads us to our next phase of our analysis. That is, we can then ascertain the significance of the move to the*IMMEDIATE LEFT. We do so by looking at*WHETHER IT IS THE MOVE (leg/trend) THAT GAVE OUR SIGNIFICANT HIGH OR LOW,*or is it simply a level of support*GAINED UNTESTED*that is being respected,*causing a low to be established,*or a level of support*LOST UNTESTED*causing a high to be*established. *If the answer is a*NEGATIVE*to the first part of the last statement, we would then look*TO FIT IT WITH THE LEFT, TO THE MOVE THAT DID.* The move to the immediate left*usefulness is not mitigated by this conclusion. The mere fact that a move occurred to the immediate left leads us to understand that a level of Support lost/gained,*UNTESTED, was hit causing the resulting reaction, and by doing so it has generated bullish or bearish momentum.Ē

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Everything you wrote finally makes sense!!!! a year later. Thank you for taking the time to share this info.

Hey mate. Congrats on your success. Anything you did besides reading Kewltech's Blog and practice?

I think I'm struggling with the same concepts as what you were struggling with. The most important being: how to know if we are just making a RETRACEMENT or a REVERSAL at TREND STARTS.

I think the problem has got to do with not understanding what the momentum leading up to the FIRST TOUCH of the TREND START is. As well as not understanding how current trend fits into HIGHER TIMEFRAMES.

Any tips would be appreciated.

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I had exactly the same discovery like 1-1.5 year ago or so, after doing some more research on the dope trading style. that's how I found out about the 'real master' aka kewltech, but I gave up after not finding much from the material from his blogposts.

Have you been able to get some more study material like all the .pdf files from his old blog?
(I also only managed to find some of the older issues)

If someone can link me or knows how to get them, please let me know.

Because I would like to learn it from the master itself, even when I've already learned quite a lot from watching dope teaching stuff.

Yeah, DopeTrades does seem to be quite good at the technique, I learnt most of the concepts by Kewltech from DopeTrades, and it's much easier to understand what the PDF states after learning from DopeTrades first.

The PDF itself is not too hard to understand. Although Spaztik's Supplementary blog is, as it would be a bit better with charts illustrating the concepts.

I'm quite a beginner at this stuff though, still fail to understand what it means when they say the chart is setting itself up for the move-probably has something to do with how momentum is being created.

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Kewltech is not a single person, it was a group of people...most of which are now retired. Stop being ignorant. All of it can be learned by studying old DOW style and Wyckoff stuff. Dunno why all of you noobs keep coming here looking for this stuff.

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Kewltech is not a single person, it was a group of people...most of which are now retired. Stop being ignorant. All of it can be learned by studying old DOW style and Wyckoff stuff. Dunno why all of you noobs keep coming here looking for this stuff.

it's probably, because we are noobs but good thing is, that you admit, that this isn't bullshit but yes, it looks like wyckoff methods to me as well.

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Kewltech is not a single person, it was a group of people...most of which are now retired. Stop being ignorant. All of it can be learned by studying old DOW style and Wyckoff stuff. Dunno why all of you noobs keep coming here looking for this stuff.

How do you know it was a group of people?

We're just tryna figure this stuff out man, gotta start somewhere hey.

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How do you know it was a group of people?

We're just tryna figure this stuff out man, gotta start somewhere hey.

Because I know many of them, and I suspect dope is probably one of them. If they removed the blog/made it private, why don't you respect their privacy and stop begging people here? If you've read it, then you recognize that it's horribly written. My advice to you is stop wasting your time.

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Because I know many of them, and I suspect dope is probably one of them. If they removed the blog/made it private, why don't you respect their privacy and stop begging people here? If you've read it, then you recognize that it's horribly written. My advice to you is stop wasting your time.

First off. All the info on KewlTech can be found on the web. It takes a little digging, but its all there. I do not trade this way, but see how a lot might be intrigued. I don''t see anybody begging. Maybe you need to stop trolling the thread? JMHO.

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Not sure where i got this. You probably already have it. I don't see any copyright in it. Never used it. Hard to see the images. Good Luck.

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I too have read the blog posts and I've been trying to follow along in tradingview and ninjatrader, but I still dont have the confidence in myself that I am following everything Im reading. Although I do pick up some ideas as Im reading through my second time. I hope "someone from kewltech" can chime in here one day.

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Is anybody actively learning/trading the said method or have read up on wyckoff too ? I would be interested in a more thorough discussion and opinions on methods and ways to trade?

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Is anybody actively learning/trading the said method or have read up on wyckoff too ? I would be interested in a more thorough discussion and opinions on methods and ways to trade?

I've read through the blog about 4-5 times and have just started applying it to the market - with mixed results. I find I'm understanding the market, but struggling with the emotions.

I'd be interested in hearing your opinions and discussing the kewltech principles.

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I've read through the blog about 4-5 times and have just started applying it to the market - with mixed results. I find I'm understanding the market, but struggling with the emotions.

I'd be interested in hearing your opinions and discussing the kewltech principles.

Add me on discord - vgods#3398


I'm interested in discussing some of the concepts if you are still interested,

Arguru#2657 on discord.

I've actually been trying to learn tradeitdontdateit's methods from watching his videos and seeing if kewltech applies.
I'm overdo for another read anyways.

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You have to realize that although this method can be applied to any market but every market kinda has its own personality. from my experience you are better off trading a market that leaves nothing untested,therefore,instead of finding what was left untested you just assume that everything will be tested. the only markets that i have seen that leave almost nothing untested ( apart from some rare occassions) are crudeoil and gold

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Does anyone know why the market progression discord got deleted? or know of any other kewltech groups?

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Does anyone know why the market progression discord got deleted? or know of any other kewltech groups?

From what have been told, founder who started the room was selling mentoring on his website, 10 sessions over Skype for $3500 whilst telling traders he trades 100 lot on ES. Got idea from another who drank from same cup, why the blogs were taken down.

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From what have been told, founder who started the room was selling mentoring on his website, 10 sessions over Skype for $3500 whilst telling traders he trades 100 lot on ES. Got idea from another who drank from same cup, why the blogs were taken down.

Thanks for the quick reply! Hmm..it seems I am back to learning momentum, progression, and legs on my own again. Barry, are you familiar with the last issue of the spaztik writings Issue 6/6 - Levels and Legs Part 3

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The point of the whole group which has not been removed, but was cleaned up was and is for those that want to know progression or understand it better. 100 peeps were in the group and many did nothing and never contributed - they were removed. FYI: I'm not the founder and one of the founders left for the same reason stated above. Regardless of any paid for mentoring etc. There appears to be to much game playing when it comes to the Internet and those that try to help the mass run into problems because of others and it becomes a waste of time.

You founded MPC, been told charged $3500 for mentoring to profit from blog. Told people you trade 100 contracts ES to help sell mentoring. Another egomaniac

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You founded MPC, been told charged $3500 for mentoring to profit from blog. Told people you trade 100 contracts ES to help sell mentoring. Another egomaniac


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I misread what you posted - correct I did start the discord room. My bad, but not the founder of KT.

@Bartly are you a vendor? Also posting of discord links is not allowed. I have already removed one post from thread.

@BarrySimpleton do you have proof of your claim?

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Bartly never tried selling anything, he wants a group of serious traders non-related to previous scammers to contribute together to a better understanding of the market.

People who were lurking or didnt want to contribute were removed.

As for the people attacking Bart, they are probably friends with someone known for repackaging KT and selling it to newcomers, or just mad for not being trusted and getting the fruits of their actions (or no-actions).

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@Bartly are you a vendor? Also posting of discord links is not allowed. I have already removed one post from thread.

@BarrySimpleton do you have proof of your claim?

Thank you,
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There are screenshots of his website that advertised mentoring for around $3500 for 10 sessions, which I believe he has taken down, Bartly might be able to confirm. If needed I can provide evidence.

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Bartly never tried selling anything, he wants a group of serious traders non-related to previous scammers to contribute together to a better understanding of the market.

People who were lurking or didnt want to contribute were removed.

As for the people attacking Bart, they are probably friends with someone known for repackaging KT and selling it to newcomers, or just mad for not being trusted and getting the fruits of their actions (or no-actions).

You might want to ask him if that is true, ask if he sold mentoring (or tried to) earlier this year...

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Bartly's posts have been deleted as he asked for his account to be removed, he confirmed selling mentoring. Another trying to sell the hard work given away for free by others. Reason blogs taken down.

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I understand why the blogs were taken down, Iím curious to know if the original writer/s are still around. And if they are willing to lend a hand in understanding a certain issue from the blog. Iím pretty sure the blog has more than enough gold nuggets in it, itís just some mental midgets like me would like some clarifications. Hopefully one day they see this and reach out


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Just be aware Bartly is a con artist. He does not understand progression.

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Thanks for the quick reply! Hmm..it seems I am back to learning momentum, progression, and legs on my own again. Barry, are you familiar with the last issue of the spaztik writings Issue 6/6 - Levels and Legs Part 3

I've also had trouble trying to understand what was being said in this last part of spaztik's notes. It would have helped if he had posted a chart to explain it better.

Off topic here, but do you know if the "Kewltech's Summary Course by Unknown" is actually an early version of Dope Trade's course? It doesn't quite hit the nail the on head when it comes to explaining progression, but was just pondering.

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I understand why the blogs were taken down, Iím curious to know if the original writer/s are still around. And if they are willing to lend a hand in understanding a certain issue from the blog. Iím pretty sure the blog has more than enough gold nuggets in it, itís just some mental midgets like me would like some clarifications. Hopefully one day they see this and reach out


There were a bunch of guys in the beginning of this thread who seemed to have a good understanding of progression. I wish i was around back then, so I could clarify a few things. In particular, with the French Canadian guy, whom I had trouble understanding his English.

I still regularly go back to his posts in the hope that I can get a different interpretation of it, to help me understand progression better.

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I've also had trouble trying to understand what was being said in this last part of spaztik's notes. It would have helped if he had posted a chart to explain it better.

Off topic here, but do you know if the "Kewltech's Summary Course by Unknown" is actually an early version of Dope Trade's course? It doesn't quite hit the nail the on head when it comes to explaining progression, but was just pondering.

Yeah i think its his early stuff, in the introduction part it said "This course is a summary of Kewltech's Blog. I originally charged for it, but since I took most of the details from Kewltech's blog which prohibits commercial uses I decided to give credit where credit is due. This course is a summary of Kewltech's blog the way I understand it, and I hope it helps you."

in newer versions he probably edited that out.

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"This course is a summary of Kewltech's Blog. I originally charged for it, but since I took most of the details from Kewltech's blog which prohibits commercial uses I decided to give credit where credit is due. This course is a summary of Kewltech's blog the way I understand it, and I hope it helps you."

To my knowledge someone from KT attempted to sabotage him and wrote that in, along with verbatim KT Blog material.

I do not think KT blog explains progression either. Merry Christmas.

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Everything you wrote finally makes sense!!!! a year later. Thank you for taking the time to share this info.

do you finally understand the method? have you managed to learn it?

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To those still figuring this out. Dont just look at futures for examples and chart references. Read the materials, especially Spastik blog and what Maricus69 said and study it on as many charts as possible. There are tons of stock to look at. The higher time frame is very important and it will make sense faster if you can study more charts than just 2 or 3 futures markets.

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To those still figuring this out. Dont just look at futures for examples and chart references. Read the materials, especially Spastik blog and what Maricus69 said and study it on as many charts as possible. There are tons of stock to look at. The higher time frame is very important and it will make sense faster if you can study more charts than just 2 or 3 futures markets.


Thanks for the tip! I'm curious, knowing what you know now, does reading issue 6 of spaztik make sense?

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I clicked on a couple of links to https://www.blogger.com/blogin.g?blogspotURL=http://kewltech.blogspot.com/ and got a denied response. I apparently need an invitation to read the blog. How do you get an invite? Anyone know?

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Thanks for the tip! I'm curious, knowing what you know now, does reading issue 6 of spaztik make sense?

LEGS Continued?

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Kewltech is not a single person, it was a group of people...most of which are now retired. Stop being ignorant. All of it can be learned by studying old DOW style and Wyckoff stuff. Dunno why all of you noobs keep coming here looking for this stuff.

It may look like Wycoff but its not Wycoff and dope aka tradevulture etc, was not part of the group that the kewltech blog was derived from

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I dunno who dope is or anyone else for that matter. I also dont care about the infantile egos people have. What I do know is he showed people on cttv where a lot of the KT stuff was dervived. Almost all of it is indeed wyckoff and dow. He even showed us where the gaining and losing levels came from (John J Murphy' book). Perhaps a lot of the people here should look into where KT came from and learn instead of fighting/blaming others for their flaws.

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I dunno who dope is or anyone else for that matter. I also dont care about the infantile egos people have. What I do know is he showed people on cttv where a lot of the KT stuff was dervived. Almost all of it is indeed wyckoff and dow. He even showed us where the gaining and losing levels came from (John J Murphy' book). Perhaps a lot of the people here should look into where KT came from and learn instead of fighting/blaming others for their flaws.

ok if you say so in regards to where it came from. I know people who know WYCOFF and said its not wycoff though some think so cos there may be a few terms used that are similar. The biggest thing that people miss out on is the impact to the momo of the trend from a short, intermediate and longer term view moving to support or resistance and what that causes, the subsequent price action, the process or progression or whatever one wants to call it from whats UNTESTED. CHEERS. NO MORE NEEDS TO BE SAID. BYE

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Thanks for the quick reply! Hmm..it seems I am back to learning momentum, progression, and legs on my own again. Barry, are you familiar with the last issue of the spaztik writings Issue 6/6 - Levels and Legs Part 3

My understanding is there was no issue #6 of the spaztik's stock planet blog so brings up the qs re what are you looking at ? There were only 5

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Thanks for the tip! I'm curious, knowing what you know now, does reading issue 6 of spaztik make sense?

THERE IS NO ISSUE #6 !

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Kewltech is not a single person, it was a group of people...most of which are now retired. Stop being ignorant. All of it can be learned by studying old DOW style and Wyckoff stuff. Dunno why all of you noobs keep coming here looking for this stuff.

Bullshit! It wasnt a group of people who wrote it, it had 2 aurhors!

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I dunno who dope is or anyone else for that matter. I also dont care about the infantile egos people have. What I do know is he showed people on cttv where a lot of the KT stuff was dervived. Almost all of it is indeed wyckoff and dow. He even showed us where the gaining and losing levels came from (John J Murphy' book). Perhaps a lot of the people here should look into where KT came from and learn instead of fighting/blaming others for their flaws.

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no, sorry i never herad about it/him. I can't open your link anyway...

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I dunno who dope is or anyone else for that matter. I also dont care about the infantile egos people have. What I do know is he showed people on cttv where a lot of the KT stuff was dervived. Almost all of it is indeed wyckoff and dow. He even showed us where the gaining and losing levels came from (John J Murphy' book). Perhaps a lot of the people here should look into where KT came from and learn instead of fighting/blaming others for their flaws.

ALL I WILL SAY IS THIS. Just cos someone gives an opinion based on finding a few key words then looking for posts in other sources using the same word THEN SAYING THAT IS WHERE IT IS DERIVED FROM DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE!! From my basic search of Wycoff I just did, its main focus is supply and demand and some other terms, no mention of momo, no mention of S lost or gained, what makes one more significiant than the other etc. So IF YOU WANT TO DRINK FROM THE IGNORANT KOOLAID, go ahead, believe what ever is fed your way be my guest. Anyone can show ypu Support lost or gained, talk about it but what makes one more siginficant than the other? Why would it react at one and not the other? Thats what the blogs adddresses. Do YOUR OWN HOMEWORK!!! CIAO!!!

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