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Blame game


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I've been a Mastery Student for over 2yrs and I agree mostly to what Globaltrader is saying. The software does not perform as advertised.

I bought the Mastery Program after much consideration in September of 2015. Sean is a very convincing sales person but I was cautiously optimistic. I thought I could sniff out a bullshitter but I dropped the ball on this guy. I would have bailed on him a long time ago but there was always the next best thing right around the corner. (Like right now its Blackbird but couldn't launch because the software was causing Seans computer to crash.) New and improved methods of dissecting the market, new indicators etc, that would improve your trading. The trade signals they generate are at best breakeven at the end of the day, unless your lucky enough to catch a trending market, then maybe you might make some money. But inevitably you'll miss the good ones and be in the market for the losers. And believe me I called him out on all his hindsight trades and he had a arsenal of comebacks, "going in with half size" (on the losers of course) , making trades for demonstration purposes only (if it turned out to be a loser), "depends on how aggressive you are", so much bullshit! And all his back testing results are worthless, this guy is just a salesman pretending to be a trader just to make you think hes just like you.
The back-testing results arent worth even looking at since they do not follow most of the qualifiers (weakest-strongest mkts, time of day, proximity to certain levels and zones, etc) that he says he uses for trade setups. After forensically going through his trade logs (which he no longer keeps) the majority of his winning trades happen pre market and the majority of his losers are during the trading room hours, interesting i thought?!
I would express my concerns that my results were no were close to what he claims that the Program produces. I wasn't hemorrhaging cash, but it was a constant slow bleed. He would suggest going back to sim trading to hone in what worked or didn't work, cut down my size, trade just one instrument, lots of suggestions no solutions, just diversions.

GZT can market the charting system with all the indicators and bells and whistles. But the days of promising returns based on adhering to a set trading rules detailed in a Mastery Program that is validated with trade logs stacked with fictitious trades has come and gone.

The con lives and dies with its creator.


I note that your post in another thread were deleted by Big Mike for promoting GZT. Best you get back on your promoting bike and promote your GZT BS elsewhere. You are nothing but a shrill.

I can only express my own take on this. I haven't felt the need to collapse into self-pity, then strike out at the guy who's brought me a lot of education, and tools which I'm finding useful. We pay. We gamble. We lose sometimes. Yeah, it would be great if we could just go out there and purchase the "holy grail" of trading, but it doesn't exist.

I mentioned GZT on ONE post, and somebody complains that I'm trying to promote something. You didn't find a whole lotta of "shill" posts from me out there, because I don't spend my time on here - I spend it working and experimenting with trading style given these thoughtful tools. Now, I've disclosed that I've yet to go live. But, I've taken my time. I've never approached it as being in a hurry to score big.

My experience has improved as I've spent LESS time at the computer taking FEWER setups - only those where the quality factors align. I've created the conditions that enable me to do so, successfully so far. Custom voice alerts per market per set up. Portable bluetooth speaker. Macro software that enables me to navigate NT7 expeditiously.

Oh, and I didn't mention the name because Mike taught me all I need to know about mentioning products: I might be trying to "promote" something - gawd. His deletion really turned me off to further contributions. And, it's precisely people like you, looking for an axe to grind, that blocks knowledge. (If you want to know the products, you'll have to private message me, I guess. - stupid as that is.)

You and Global aren't happy people, and it comes through in the conclusions you jump to about people. I'd guess that both you and Global still use the GZT tools, grimacing all the way.

There are no guarantees. No system can deliver what you're looking for. Methinks you either have the answer within you (with whatever tools you use), or you don't. And if you don't... don't cry, complain, and blame.

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I can only express my own take on this. I haven't felt the need to collapse into self-pity, then strike out at the guy who's brought me a lot of education, and tools which I'm finding useful. We pay. We gamble. We lose sometimes. Yeah, it would be great if we could just go out there and purchase the "holy grail" of trading, but it doesn't exist.

I mentioned GZT on ONE post, and somebody complains that I'm trying to promote something. You didn't find a whole lotta of "shill" posts from me out there, because I don't spend my time on here - I spend it working and experimenting with trading style given these thoughtful tools. Now, I've disclosed that I've yet to go live. But, I've taken my time. I've never approached it as being in a hurry to score big.

My experience has improved as I've spent LESS time at the computer taking FEWER setups - only those where the quality factors align. I've created the conditions that enable me to do so, successfully so far. Custom voice alerts per market per set up. Portable bluetooth speaker. Macro software that enables me to navigate NT7 expeditiously.

Oh, and I didn't mention the name because Mike taught me all I need to know about mentioning products: I might be trying to "promote" something - gawd. His deletion really turned me off to further contributions. And, it's precisely people like you, looking for an axe to grind, that blocks knowledge. (If you want to know the products, you'll have to private message me, I guess. - stupid as that is.)

You and Global aren't happy people, and it comes through in the conclusions you jump to about people. I'd guess that both you and Global still use the GZT tools, grimacing all the way.

There are no guarantees. No system can deliver what you're looking for. Methinks you either have the answer within you (with whatever tools you use), or you don't. And if you don't... don't cry, complain, and blame.

Perhaps you can present your live trading statements? Kozak can't because he doesn't have any. His whole method is built on lies and false statements. Cherry picking results that are posted. All have huge question marks over. What really annoys me is people like you promoting GZT when clearly you will not admit the ongoing problems within GZT. One day you will wake up and see the truth and your little GZT world will come crashing down around you. Just like it has for Sean Kozak. Hopefully, your sound alert is different than a car horn, would hate to think you got it wrong and ran onto the road and got run over.

"Custom voice alerts per market per set up. Portable bluetooth speaker. Macro software that enables me to navigate NT7 expeditiously". Excellent. Can just imagine you setting in your lounge, then beep beep alert. run into your traderoom, jump on the computer and place a winning trade...LOL. Come on man, do you really expect anyone to believe that? Especially without watching the movement prior the alert or understanding the markets current status. It ludicrous that you even expect that to work. Or perhaps you're under the same delusional spell as Kozak.LMAO.

When people spend a lot of money on these so called mentors and their phoney systems it becomes difficult to accept the reality that you have been conned.


As Skeptical said.

"The con lives and dies with its creator."

You actually write as if you are the salesperson for GZT. Wouldn't surprise me if you are.


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I've been a Mastery Student for over 2yrs and I agree mostly to what Globaltrader is saying. The software does not perform as advertised.

I bought the Mastery Program after much consideration in September of 2015. Sean is a very convincing sales person but I was cautiously optimistic. I thought I could sniff out a bullshitter but I dropped the ball on this guy. I would have bailed on him a long time ago but there was always the next best thing right around the corner. (Like right now its Blackbird but couldn't launch because the software was causing Seans computer to crash.) New and improved methods of dissecting the market, new indicators etc, that would improve your trading. The trade signals they generate are at best breakeven at the end of the day, unless your lucky enough to catch a trending market, then maybe you might make some money. But inevitably you'll miss the good ones and be in the market for the losers. And believe me I called him out on all his hindsight trades and he had a arsenal of comebacks, "going in with half size" (on the losers of course) , making trades for demonstration purposes only (if it turned out to be a loser), "depends on how aggressive you are", so much bullshit! And all his back testing results are worthless, this guy is just a salesman pretending to be a trader just to make you think hes just like you.
The back-testing results arent worth even looking at since they do not follow most of the qualifiers (weakest-strongest mkts, time of day, proximity to certain levels and zones, etc) that he says he uses for trade setups. After forensically going through his trade logs (which he no longer keeps) the majority of his winning trades happen pre market and the majority of his losers are during the trading room hours, interesting i thought?!
I would express my concerns that my results were no were close to what he claims that the Program produces. I wasn't hemorrhaging cash, but it was a constant slow bleed. He would suggest going back to sim trading to hone in what worked or didn't work, cut down my size, trade just one instrument, lots of suggestions no solutions, just diversions.

GZT can market the charting system with all the indicators and bells and whistles. But the days of promising returns based on adhering to a set trading rules detailed in a Mastery Program that is validated with trade logs stacked with fictitious trades has come and gone.

The con lives and dies with its creator.


I note that your post in another thread were deleted by Big Mike for promoting GZT. Best you get back on your promoting bike and promote your GZT BS elsewhere. You are nothing but a shrill.

This brilliant post by Skeptical says it all. I think we should just close this thread and leave it at what Skeptical has said. Sean Kozak doesn't need anymore GZT dirty laundry aired. GZT has been found out, period. Also, Sean Kozak has many personal issues that need addressing and by continuing with this thread they may be aired in public. At the end of the day Sean knows what he has done and has to live with it. Karma has a weird way of revenge.

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Jeesh, methinks you can find better things to do with your time than spewing such vitriol against worthwhile people like Sean.

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a have test it some tools was good but his tool freeze a remembre a have open a position was freeze my platform ninjatrader yes have a a serios problem with laag a think his coder was wrong that all a thinks

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Just make your first 100 live trades and let us know, if you do well , it will shut up all haters.


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Jeesh, methinks you can find better things to do with your time than spewing such vitriol against worthwhile people like Sean.

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Just make your first 100 live trades and let us know, if you do well , it will shut up all haters.

Yep, fair enough, indeed.

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There is no reason to believe that Sean Kozak is even a real person, it very easily could be an alias. On his website, there is no phone number, no address, no way to verify anything tangible. And yet people have paid him $7000? Wow.

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His Twitter account doesn't show daily trades but rather trade 'education.' @GztSean
I have no 'skin in the game' I'm just providing information that is already there.

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