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Goldenzonetrading & Neurostreet - Sean Kozak

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The Mastery Program that costs $7000 is just the start of the cost. If he decides later to add a new "indicator" that he thinks will benefits the program, you as a student will likely have to buy it (at a discount) as it's not included in the initial $7K investment. He doesn't mention this on his webinar at all so if you are planning to join the "Mastery Program" you will need to be aware of this.

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I participated in VPC zones intro webinar, despite some BS Sean said during presentation I still thought the idea sounded good. Sean also mentioned that he tested zones for 2 weeks and they "worked very well" so I thought I will ask for the trial and check it myself, but support responded that they don't provide trial but I can join trading room and witness magic myself. I replied them asking at least for the screenshot with the zones for longer period 20 days or so, but they didn't respond, I repeated my request couple more times, still didn't receive anything, contacted sales as well with no success.
You make your own conclusions. And they didn't receive my money, but what if they did, what kind of support you could expect then?


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I participated in VPC zones intro webinar, despite some BS Sean said during presentation I still thought the idea sounded good. Sean also mentioned that he tested zones for 2 weeks and they "worked very well" so I thought I will ask for the trial and check it myself, but support responded that they don't provide trial but I can join trading room and witness magic myself. I replied them asking at least for the screenshot with the zones for longer period 20 days or so, but they didn't respond, I repeated my request couple more time, still didn't receive anything, contacted sales as well with no success.
You make your own conclusions. And they didn't receive my money, but what if they did, what kind of support you could expect then?

His company does not do trial. I think they tried it once but it seemed like a lot of work for them to offer this. The VCP level is new so if you are interested in it, you might want to attend his trade room first before purchasing it. I don't think they do refunds so you might want to wait and see if it fits your trading style.

Their support is great. I have been using their products for a while now and I have never had issues with their support. They are top notch and therefore I am surprise they haven't answered you yet.

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I still think it's not reasonable to ask 1500$ for unproven concept without the trial especially when previous one like fib confluence is out of favor now.


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His company does not do trial. I think they tried it once but it seemed like a lot of work for them to offer this. The VCP level is new so if you are interested in it, you might want to attend his trade room first before purchasing it. I don't think they do refunds so you might want to wait and see if it fits your trading style.

Their support is great. I have been using their products for a while now and I have never had issues with their support. They are top notch and therefore I am surprise they haven't answered you yet.


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I still think it's not reasonable to ask 1500$ for unproven concept without the trial especially when previous one like fib confluence is out of favor now.

Yes, I totally agree with you about that point. Paying $1500 is quite a bit of money for something that might or might not benefit your trading style. I think they tried it and have not offer to do a trial is probably the man hour to manually enter the machine id in by hand and keep track of all the numbers of people on trial (which I would like could be in the 100s) and remember to remove their machine once their trial is over. I don't think there is an easy automated way to do this. Also, i am guessing here, but for those 100 people that sign up for the trial, I bet only 5-10% of those people would purchase it and to allocate the time to manage the trial subscription and to answer questions about the functionality of the product while they are on trial, might not be worth it. I't probably why they offer the free trade room passes so you can see the product in action and ask question right there on the spot.

Before I purchased their software, that's what I did. I took advantage of the free trading room passes to see the product in action before I decided it was for me, but like you said, my preference would be the free trial route as well.

BTW: If you do purchase their product, from what Sean says, there is no recurring cost after that. Any updates including new NT version like NT8 are free for life. They did make new enhancements and changes to the indicators and so far updates are still free. I have been harpy with his products so far. No regrets so far.

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I don't know how its done, but very often you just install indicator and it automatically expires after 2 weeks, no machine id is required.

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I still think it's not reasonable to ask 1500$ for unproven concept without the trial especially when previous one like fib confluence is out of favor now.

Totally agree. The more I research GZT and the latest release of the new super indicator the more I want to run. If its true that it was only tested for two weeks then thats just wrong to be selling it.

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VPC levels are same as Peaks and Valleys on any Market profile in my view. I may be wrong. The concept is very good thou. I do not have that indicator or nor I am going to buy it. I do have indicator that has peaks and valleys thou.

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VPC levels are same as Peaks and Valleys on any Market profile in my view. I may be wrong. The concept is very good thou. I do not have that indicator or nor I am going to buy it. I do have indicator that has peaks and valleys thou.

i watched a GZT presentaion on it and thought why do I really need it. Whats new? Am putting more work into J Daltions , Mind over Markets in which the concepts are explained better than anything GZT said. i'm not that sure about Market Profile in relation to individual candles/bars etc on the very short timeframes. I think that can cause you to over trade and put to much value on area's that aren't the significant


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GZT


I bought one of the many indicators he sells. It is ok. Not worth the price

I have been in many of his free passes to the trade room. He is a nice person but a medocre trader

He only does his trading on sim, and still can't make money consistenly

The best at showing real results is by far Jihn Carter

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