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Goldenzonetrading & Neurostreet - Sean Kozak

 
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I was in Neuro street room Raul Rivera and it appeared to be legit. The trades he takes are supposedly in a live /real account..but how is it verified? He places trades on his charts in plain view for many markets with huge stops. He does show a brokerage statement from Phillips Capital/ Ninja trader for the year 2018...ligit...who knows. But forget all the bs the most important issue is do the trades work. The only way to find out is to take the trades for yourself. I took the index trades as he called them and there were winners and losers but at the end of 3 day his calls made money. The issues I see is that to trade all his trades you need a large account 250k. His stops are huge. He trades many markets..ie platinum... who trades platinum...really. He uses profile charts and he explains everything he is doing. Very easy to duplicate his trades. Unlike some rooms that say get in now and buy the time you react the market has moved.

live view of him placing trades

trades called in advance, yes way in advance not just a few seconds

real account ...don't know

huge stops

need large account to take all his trades



What amazes's me is Kozak actually has pulled in what one would think is a real live trader. Because Kozak can not trade. I'm suss on these rooms especially if Kozak involved. Nothing against Raul, but for Kozak to come back from the dead with this whole new idea is a bit rich in my opinion.

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From Kozaks website. practice what you preach comes to mine. Kozak doesn't fit any of these.

The Type Of People Who Benefit The Most From NeuroStreet:
You’re looking to improve your cognitive abilities and excel in your daily routine.
You’re willing to let go of the past situations that are no longer serving you.
You’re passionate about learning and practicing your trading strategies.
You’re honest with yourself about your skills and expectations.
You’ve had sporadic trading success, but want consistency.
You will do the hard work to master your craft and tools.
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It's Jan 2019 and I came across a video for Golden Zone Trading because I use Supply Demand and Volume Profile. I use a little deeper logic tree than just cutting a large move in half. But the same core logic as OTA, perhaps more detailed in taking chances on mid initiative fresh levels and failure of mid move levels.

I had always thought of creating something to auto-profile HVN congestion areas. IMO, the GZT SDVol comes close, but you can't see the LVNs or how thin those LVNs are. SDVol isn't perfect for me, but it sure has a lot of nice features with the menu selection and ability to toggle.

I would actually like to use it, but just from reading this long thread, I just can't bring myself to rely on a business that goes AWOL for long periods. I hate when software keeps crashing or blue screens Windows.

I know GZT has some new pro traders hosting the rooms, but I watched some of their videos and the guy totally does not use Supply Demand analysis. He's only looking at VAH/VAL areas on a larger timeframe and taking responsive trades back into the value area. Never mentions supply, demand, or reads order flow or volume.

I'm a little dismayed because the GZT videos are very good and the software seems like a nice to have. But AWOL business stability is a show stopper for me. I'm back to continuous grinding of C# code and figuring it out for myself... as we all are I suppose. It would take me 8 to 15 months to get to a functional equivalent as it's happened in the past. So for me $1000 is worth it. But if license enforcement kicks in and GZT is AWOL then I'm just SOL and back to home growing my own again. It sucks the way this industry is. It's either you have and can maintain the source code yourself, or you just can't rely on anyone else.

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I had always thought of creating something to auto-profile HVN congestion areas. IMO, the GZT SDVol comes close, but you can't see the LVNs or how thin those LVNs are. SDVol isn't perfect for me, but it sure has a lot of nice features with the menu selection and ability to toggle.

I would actually like to use it, but just from reading this long thread, I just can't bring myself to rely on a business that goes AWOL for long periods. I hate when software keeps crashing or blue screens Windows.

I suggest taking a look at Pure Financial Academy (PFA). They are the original creator of the SD Zone indicator, of which GZT had improperly purchased the source code through back channels. The illegality of said purchase I don't have any personal knowledge, as NDAs are always private.
PFA has been in business much longer than GZT, and the survival of the company does not seem to be solely reliant on indicator sales, but rather it is augmented by the owner's own personal trading as well.

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 dk27 
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According PFA owner himself, he neither trades live nor has a trading account.

https://www.tradingschools.org/pure-financial-academy-2018-review/


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I suggest taking a look at Pure Financial Academy (PFA). They are the original creator of the SD Zone indicator, of which GZT had improperly purchased the source code through back channels. The legality of said purchase is only known to PFA.
PFA has been in business much longer than GZT, and the survival of the company does not seem to be solely reliant on indicator sales, but rather it is augmented by the owner's own personal trading as well.


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According PFA owner himself, he neither trades live nor has a trading account.

Hmmm, interesting. I assumed Will traded live(not in this traderoom/training session), because I had a meeting with him last week, after his room was finished for the day, and he missed a trade setup during our meeting, that he had been waiting for all week on a higher timeframe chart (in the range of a 60 minute chart). IMO he seemed so bummed by it, like the level of disappointment when missing a live trade, not a sim trade. But, I could be wrong. I should have asked if it was a live or sim trade he missed.
Anyways, my point was not to give a good or negative review of PFA. Only to point out the original SD zones indicator came from their, for those who liked using GZT's copy of it, and want an NT 8 version.

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I suggest taking a look at Pure Financial Academy (PFA). They are the original creator of the SD Zone indicator, of which GZT had improperly purchased the source code through back channels. The illegality of said purchase I don't have any personal knowledge, as NDAs are always private.
PFA has been in business much longer than GZT, and the survival of the company does not seem to be solely reliant on indicator sales, but rather it is augmented by the owner's own personal trading as well.

You sound like the guy who use to sell GZT. Stephen Wasson?

PFA is another fraud outfit. Ask for real live trading account verification? You won't get it.

You don't need an indicator to show you supply, demand zones. Easy enough to draw them yourself.

https://www.valforex.com/pure-financial-academy-scam-disturbing-facts-in-this-review/

 
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You sound like the guy who use to sell GZT. Stephen Wasson?

PFA is another fraud outfit. Ask for real live trading account verification? You won't get it.

You don't need an indicator to show you supply, demand zones. Easy enough to draw them yourself.

https://www.valforex.com/pure-financial-academy-scam-disturbing-facts-in-this-review/

Well, GlobalTrader, don't say fraud when you have no clue about the vendor or the training or product they sell.

We actually learnt Will's method and we're trading it live and making money.

It's one thing, that you're accusing a business as a fraud, since you're pretty much careless and most likely unsuccessfull, but those sour and pathetic posts just like yours turns my stomach upside down.

No real trader would ask for live trading verification - of what?? How other people trade in their own different styles? How other people make money using their own MM and strategy? I've seen proofs of live accounts before, they were all useless to me - every single time the seller was a fraud. No real seller would show any proof about his / her / their success, since you won't be able to copy their style 100%.
Then, i guess, people like yourself would complain about the live proof "how come that i didn't make similar amount of money or i didnt make any money at all?"

Actually PFA, (if you had any clue about trading), makes a lot of sense, if you only watch the free webinars. But hey, isn't it easier to throw a bunch of crap to a vendor you've never spent 5 minutes to understand their concept?

But it's a shame, that people like you allowed to post on forums, accusing vendors without any evidence or proof, hiding behind a nickname and throwing your nonsense to the others.
What a joke.

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Well, GlobalTrader, don't say fraud when you have no clue about the vendor or the training or product they sell.

We actually learnt Will's method and we're trading it live and making money.

It's one thing, that you're accusing a business as a fraud, since you're pretty much careless and most likely unsuccessfull, but those sour and pathetic posts just like yours turns my stomach upside down.

No real trader would ask for live trading verification - of what?? How other people trade in their own different styles? How other people make money using their own MM and strategy? I've seen proofs of live accounts before, they were all useless to me - every single time the seller was a fraud. No real seller would show any proof about his / her / their success, since you won't be able to copy their style 100%.
Then, i guess, people like yourself would complain about the live proof "how come that i didn't make similar amount of money or i didnt make any money at all?"

Actually PFA, (if you had any clue about trading), makes a lot of sense, if you only watch the free webinars. But hey, isn't it easier to throw a bunch of crap to a vendor you've never spent 5 minutes to understand their concept?

But it's a shame, that people like you allowed to post on forums, accusing vendors without any evidence or proof, hiding behind a nickname and throwing your nonsense to the others.
What a joke.

Zolie

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Its a shame people like you are given a forum to post BS. If his method works so well then you won't have any problems posting your REAL trades. Go and spam somewhere else. Grow up.

 
 
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