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So, this is who "Big Mike" is, huh? You certainly set the tone for a lot of wasted chattering, sir.

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There is no reason to believe that Sean Kozak is even a real person, it very easily could be an alias. On his website, there is no phone number, no address, no way to verify anything tangible. And yet people have paid him $7000? Wow.

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Thought he was your newest best friend Mike. At least that's what Kozak said in the Traderoom,. But we all knew that was more BS and you verified it.

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Just make your first 100 live trades and let us know, if you do well , it will shut up all haters.

Here is a better idea. Ask GZT and Sean Kozak for his trade logs, sim and live. He would have 100s if not 1000s and there you find your answer. Does his system has a positive expectancy?

Or, if the people that use GZT and making money with over 100 trades prove us all wrong. Show us the money/statements. It's that easy. But you won't because you don't have them and are still in denial that you have been ripped off. We could call it The Madoff Effect.

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I don't personally own any of Sean's (GZT) stuff, but we have a trader in our room that does and the guy is phenomenal and I have personally watched him make a lot of profitable trades. I asked him if he thought GZT'S stuff was useful and he said yes. Personally I think it is to pricey, but I have no doubt that it is useful based on what that trader said, I know that it does for the right methodology in any case.

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With that said he has some software I want, but until it comes down a little in price, I can wait.

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I would also add that anyone trying to code for NT7 and expecting miracles, well you may be waiting a long time. It's a pile, we all know that so I think anyone trying to write a decent piece of software for the platform is gonna have troubles. Hopefully NT8 will be better.

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I don't personally own any of Sean's (GZT) stuff, but we have a trader in out room that does and the guy is phenomenal and I have personally watched him make a lot of profitable trades. I asked him if he thought GZT'S stuff was useful and he said yes. Personally I think it is to pricey, but I have no doubt that it is useful based on what that trader said, I know that it does for the right methodology in any case.

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Which room is that?

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You're speaking to the wrong person, sir.

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That message wasn't to you, but to @GlobalTrader. As you can see, I deleted one of his posts for being rude.

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I have no idea who Sean Kozak is or anything about GZT, but one thing i do know is this;

ANYONE asking for thousands of dollars to teach you how to trade is a SCAM ARTIST. They are only after your eagerness to learn to trade and will take your money and leave you with nothing. I have been there and learned through experience.

The truth is, there are very few people in this business who truly want to provide you with good information. If anyone "guarantees" you success, they are a liar or a fool. Either of which should make you turn and run.

If you are looking for the holy grail of trading, there is not one. The closest thing to one is learning price action. However, it is completely up to you to learn how to do this if you want to make a living at it. No one can do it for you. For some reason most people just dont get this.

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The insult wad directed at you Travllr for plugging GZT. You still haven't posted any trades or your statements to prove how well you are doing with GZT...LOL. Guess its difficult when you don't have any.

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The insult wad directed at you Travllr for plugging GZT. You still haven't posted any trades or your statements to prove how well you are doing with GZT...LOL. Guess id difficult when you don't have any.

I noted a previous recommendation to do so. In the meantime, may I respectfully suggest that you mind your own trading efforts and improve your general psychology, rather than mischaracterize people you do not know, and comment on systems you've not adequately explored.

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I noted a previous recommendation to do so. In the meantime, may I respectfully suggest that you mind your own trading efforts and improve your general psychology, rather than mischaracterize people you do not know, and comment on systems you've not adequately explored.

We have actively explored GZT and all its software. We do have access to the Mastery Program and have been in contact with Kozak many times over the past 2yrs. The opinion expressed here is a direct result of past experiences.

Instead of diverting the subject why don't you prove me wrong and post at least 30 trades from your TJS Elite journal. 30 is the lowest statistical number that carries weight.

Also, while in the trade room about 3 months ago I heard SK saying how he and Big Mike were best friends..lol. Mr Mike certainly discredited that. One lie leads to another.

Here you are defending GZT and you don't even know what's really going on inside GZT. If you do can you explain Seans sickness? The problems with the software? and so forth?

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So, if I understand you correctly, you're a current MP member?

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So, if I understand you correctly, you're a current MP member?

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Nope. A close friend of mine is and it was that person that alerted me to the problems with GZT. So, I had a look at it for them and sadly had to advise they had been ripped off $7000.

Someone wanting to learn how to trade futures is always a good thing, sadly these are the same people that get caught out by these scammers and dream sellers.

The only forum available to complain and enlighten other traders is trading websites such as Futures. io and a few others.

GZT and Sean don't do themselves any favors by not disclosing the problems GZT software has with N7. That should be disclosed to potential purchasers, rather than finding out once they have paid $7000 the software is useless in a fast market. And the signals are a joke.

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Big Mike wastes my time. I just posted a reply which he determined was another sales promo. The man, like you, jumps to negative conclusions.

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Big Mike wastes my time. I just posted a reply which he determined was another sales promo. The man, like you, jumps to negative conclusions.

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Would say reality more so than negative conclusions.

I read your email that Mike kindly deleted. That was some GZT plug. You need to read Skeptical post again. Over 30yrs trading futures and you know what he thinks of GZT.

Fast Markets, All I am referring to here is the US market time slot. Computer freezes all the time. Even Kozaks computer freezes. We are running 2 Falcon PCs, 6 monitors each and a Falcon laptop can run 4 additional monitors, but we run two. 3 data connections 2 lan at 85mbs each and the laptop has a totally independent wireless connection for emergencies. They all get platform freezes when using GZT. This was a huge hassle to figure out (especially since it took Kozak over 2yrs to admit it was a GZT and N7 problem). Transferring the GZT license to each independent computer purely to test everything was a huge hassle. Trading Globex, these problems happen less.

Show everyone here your trade logs for gzt, then you may get some merit, till then you are just another shill.

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That's fair. As I stated in that reply, the freezes don't happen all the time. Typically, in some days at market open. And sometimes at the crude, Nat gas reports.And these are times to wait (unless you want to abandon risk mgt). So, the larger point I made was that the software offers the user a rich variety of trading styles. And each person must take the time to find what works for then. Even Sean takes trades that I wouldn't have taken at times.

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That's fair. As I stated in that reply, the freezes don't happen all the time. Typically, in some days at market open. And sometimes at the crude, Nat gas reports.And these are times to wait (unless you want to abandon risk mgt). So, the larger point I made was that the software offers the user a rich variety of trading styles. And each person must take the time to find what works for then. Even Sean takes trades that I wouldn't have taken at times.

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I don't have time to argue about this. What Skeptical and I have said is true. You are not chatting with some newbie that doesn't understand news reports etc.. We know this. The problem with GZT persists.

In every system, there is good and bad. GZT is more bad than good.The problem is GZT is selling their system knowing that GZT is inherent with problems without disclosing them to potential customers. Buyer beware.

It's blatantly obvious that you don't have a positive trade log derived from GZT trades. Otherwise, you would post them. Why wouldn't you? Because you don't have them. Until you do , best keep your GZT bias to yourself, because you just look like a shill and doing more damage to your beloved GZT.

Why isn't Sean Kozak profitable trading the same method he sells? Wake up dude.

You would go broke fast taking the trades Kozak takes. Thats why he sells BS systems because he can;t make money trading.

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I guess he won't be able to post that trade record...

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I guess he won't be able to post that trade record...

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LOL.

Authorities are currently investigating Sean Kozak and Goldenzonetrading. This will be interesting.

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Authorities are currently investigating Sean Kozak and Goldenzonetrading. This will be interesting.

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Authorities are currently investigating Sean Kozak and Goldenzonetrading. This will be interesting.

To be fair, no source has been posted so this post should be removed.

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This is all that can be posted at present as its under investigation. Email is from another GZT Mastery Student.

While the CSA co-ordinates initiatives on a cross-Canada basis, provincial or territorial regulators handle all complaints regarding securities violations in their respective jurisdictions. This provides a more direct and efficient service since each regulator is closer to its local investors and market participants. Enforcement of securities regulations is also done on an individual basis by each province or territory.

Since Mr. Kozak is located in Ottawa (according to his YouTube videos), we are forwarding all information to the Ontario Securities Administrators. Should they require any additional information, a member of their staff will be contacting you directly.

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I also heard that Sean Kozak isn't returning to GZT or the Traderoom. The company looks like its over.

I had a chat with ?? earlier today. he mentioned the licensing server being potentially plugged off as apparently Sean doesn't plan to come back. Everyone who paid for GZT has now been fully ripped off if this happens. .apparently, 1000's of customers would be affected. With the licensing system, you never own your software copy.


And I bet Kozak will re-hash and use the software in another company


All GZT members need to get together and launch some kind of action.

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I looked at GTZ when it started and thought what a load of crap since i already tried that way of trading on my own for a year in the past . I hope this guy get to pay all money back . But probalbly He do not have any left. Anyone that try to sell a system without a live track record is a scammer.

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I looked at GTZ when it started and thought what a load of crap since i already tried that way of trading on my own for a year in the past . I hope this guy get to pay all money back . But probalbly He do not have any left. Anyone that try to sell a system without a live track record is a scammer.

The horse has bolted now , while Kozak lives in a new house, wife has left him because of his drug addictions and he has left all his customers ripped OFF.

Be pro active and file a report.

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I also heard that Sean Kozak isn't returning to GZT or the Traderoom. The company looks like its over.

I had a chat with ?? earlier today. he mentioned the licensing server being potentially plugged off as apparently Sean doesn't plan to come back. Everyone who paid for GZT has now been fully ripped off if this happens. .apparently, 1000's of customers would be affected. With the licensing system, you never own your software copy.


And I bet Kozak will re-hash and use the software in another company


All GZT members need to get together and launch some kind of action.

Please be aware that licensing is NOT done by any server from GZT. All licensing was recorded on the NinjaTrader servers which is provided to the software developers.
As long as you continue to run the software on the same computer that it is now licensed you should not experience any issue related to licensing.
The real issue is what will happen if you update the BIOS, buy a new computer, Upgrade Operating System. -- in such cases there is no way to license the new computer. Licensing was done using 3rd Party licensing option guidance provided by NinjaTrader.

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I also heard that Sean Kozak isn't returning to GZT or the Traderoom. The company looks like its over.

I had a chat with ?? earlier today. he mentioned the licensing server being potentially plugged off as apparently Sean doesn't plan to come back. Everyone who paid for GZT has now been fully ripped off if this happens. .apparently, 1000's of customers would be affected. With the licensing system, you never own your software copy.


And I bet Kozak will re-hash and use the software in another company


All GZT members need to get together and launch some kind of action.

Sad to say Im one that got ripped off as well, sent many emails with no return of my money even asked if I could sell my copy but don't allow. Sean has been MIA for months and he finally got a student to come in and now I think he has went MIA as well. I will be filing a complaint where I can.

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The horse has bolted now , while Kozak lives in a new house, wife has left him because of his drug addictions and he has left all his customers ripped OFF.

Be pro active and file a report.

https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/?utm_source=takeaction

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Please cite sources for those claims.

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Please cite sources for those claims.

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The source comes from the Traderoom, Staff and Kozak himself. GZT is over.

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The source comes from the Traderoom, Staff and Kozak himself. GZT is over.

To be true , to be true, to be true.

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To be true , to be true, to be true.

Kozak also stated he is a director of Shark Indicators, Bloodhound, Blackbird. He's been upselling Shark for yrs. I wonder how they feel about GZT and Kozak's MIA. EZI Computers another one, which was actually quite hilarious when Nick Vanderburg took over moderating the traderoon EZi sold him a new computer because his old one couldn't run the software. Guess what happened. Vanderburgs new EZI computer froze just like the old one. LMAO.

GZT Salesperson, Steve Wasson must have been aware of the problems with GZT, yet he still tried to sell GZT until the very last day to potential customers. Where is Wasson now? He should have his ass sued also. Get him in court and have him spend his fraudulent fee's from GZT on lawyers.

Was great while they were all making money, now that Kozak and GZT have proven to be a fraud what do you think they will do now. Refund everyone or run?

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Kozak also stated he is a director of Shark Indicators, Bloodhound, Blackbird. He's been upselling Shark for yrs. I wonder how they feel about GZT and Kozak's MIA. EZI Computers another one, which was actually quite hilarious when Nick Vanderburg took over moderating the traderoon EZi sold him a new computer because his old one couldn't run the software. Guess what happened. Vanderburgs new EZI computer froze just like the old one. LMAO.

GZT Salesperson, Steve Wasson must have been aware of the problems with GZT, yet he still tried to sell GZT until the very last day to potential customers. Where is Wasson now? He should have his ass sued also. Get him in court and have him spend his fraudulent fee's from GZT on lawyers.

Was great while they were all making money, now that Kozak and GZT have proven to be a fraud what do you think they will do now. Refund everyone or run?

I have never spoken with Stephen Wesson, but he seems like a wannabe trader who has drank the Kozak Koolaid. Can't he see he was working for Jones Town under Madoff business principles??

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Kozak also stated he is a director of Shark Indicators, Bloodhound, Blackbird. He's been upselling Shark for yrs. I wonder how they feel about GZT and Kozak's MIA. EZI Computers another one, which was actually quite hilarious when Nick Vanderburg took over moderating the traderoon EZi sold him a new computer because his old one couldn't run the software. Guess what happened. Vanderburgs new EZI computer froze just like the old one. LMAO.

GZT Salesperson, Steve Wasson must have been aware of the problems with GZT, yet he still tried to sell GZT until the very last day to potential customers. Where is Wasson now? He should have his ass sued also. Get him in court and have him spend his fraudulent fee's from GZT on lawyers.

Was great while they were all making money, now that Kozak and GZT have proven to be a fraud what do you think they will do now. Refund everyone or run?



You said everything I was thinking and seen, I have that Steven Wasson as a Skype contact, he assured me Sean was 100% when I bought the software at the first of the year and Sean went MIA in about 2 months after I got software and u are correct they was selling software up to the last webinar, and dont forget about Genevieve Jimenez with her survey and giving out Stevens contact info to push software. I had wrote Sean and her several times requesting a refund with no luck and never got a reply from Sean. I was informed that Steven was a contractor and I had really wondered if I could take him to court locally not sure if that could be done, I know he lives in CA and I live in TX. To my understand I always thought he worked for the company. Share your storys!

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Hello, licensing of 3rd party add-ons is exclusively controlled by the 3rd party. I understand that other GZT clients are also having difficulty reaching them but that is what needs to occur to discuss licensing options. We are also attempting to reach them to let them know of your concerns and if we reach them, we will ask them to contact you directly. However based on these complaints and our inability to reach them, we had their vendor listing removed last week.


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I'm quite mad because I only paid for and added on the Print Profiler to the GZT package just before Easter and I have to say that upto now, I didn't want to believe Skeptical or GlobalTrader. Around that time Stephen Wasson and another one of Kozak's lackeys Mike Bandy who I believe is also an empoyee of GZT promised me that the NT8 release was just around the corner. I just checked and GZT are no longer listed on the Ninjatrader site.
If all this is true then Kozak is utterly despicable. The facts above also imply that @DocR (who is RJ in GZT or Raul Jimenez) knew when he posted last month of the troubles in GoldenZone. I quote from his previous post:

'GZT grew from a few customers to many customers and I was no longer able to focus on my own trading and company. For said reason, and health, I resigned from GZT. At this point, I am back coding Market Force indicators which I use for my own trading and may put in the market.'

So the information in this post and previous posts by @Skeptical and @GlobalTrader makes @DocR's previous posts that he resigned for health reasons sound like utter nonsense. It sounds like there is a lot more going on under the surface than DocR let on and we know so far. DocR knew all the facts last month when he was posting away trying to wash his hands of GZT and he could have come clean but he didn't.
Genevieve Jimenez quoted by @buick above is DocR's wife. DocR can protest all he like but I find it despicable and abhorrent that both these people were in bed with Kozak milking the honey until it suited them. Just shows the integrity of ALL these people.

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I'm quite mad because I only paid for and added on the Print Profiler to the GZT package just before Easter and I have to say that upto now, I didn't want to believe Skeptical or GlobalTrader. Around that time Stephen Wasson and another one of Kozak's lackeys Mike Bandy who I believe is also an empoyee of GZT promised me that the NT8 release was just around the corner. I just checked and GZT are no longer listed on the Ninjatrader site.
If all this is true then Kozak is utterly despicable. The facts above also imply that @DocR (who is RJ in GZT or Raul Jimenez) knew when he posted last month of the troubles in GoldenZone. I quote from his previous post:

'GZT grew from a few customers to many customers and I was no longer able to focus on my own trading and company. For said reason, and health, I resigned from GZT. At this point, I am back coding Market Force indicators which I use for my own trading and may put in the market.'

So the information in this post and previous posts by @Skeptical and @GlobalTrader makes @DocR's previous posts that he resigned for health reasons sound like utter nonsense. It sounds like there is a lot more going on under the surface than DocR let on and we know so far. DocR knew all the facts last month when he was posting away trying to wash his hands of GZT and he could have come clean but he didn't.
Genevieve Jimenez quoted by @buick above is DocR's wife. DocR can protest all he like but I find it despicable and abhorrent that both these people were in bed with Kozak milking the honey until it suited them. Just shows the integrity of ALL these people.

Its been long and difficult road trying enlighten people of Kozak and GZT. Everyone needs to contact Ninja, and everyone else associated when GZT. Get off you bum and be pro-active and set your sites on Kozak living in his new Million Dollar + house on your money. I bet he is smiling drinking cappuccino's thinking what a great trader and saleperson he is. The truth is he is nothing but a piece of Dog Shit, Perhaps that's even too good for him.

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Sean Kozak
212 Rue de la Sève
Gatineau QC J8V 0K4
Canada

Google earth the address.

And more.

So much BS on this clown. https://www.ampfutures.com/landing/sean-kozak-golden-zone-trading/

Your request could not be completed, as the account you are attempting to reach is no longer active.



Sean Kozak is a futures trader of over 8 years and specializes in strategy development and trading education. As a licensed securities advisor in Canada, Sean has helped (scam) traders all over the world reach their goals of becoming professional traders.


SharkIndicators does not have any authority to manage or direct the operations of Golden Zone Trading. GZT has been removed from our vendor list. We are no longer affiliated with GZT. We have lost contact with Mr. Kozak quite some time ago. If you have any information on how to contact him or anyone working for GZT we would appreciate that info. BUT KOZAK IS A DIRECTOR OF SHARK. WTF

Sean is the owner of Golden Zone Trading and the Director of Business Development for SharkIndicators. Sean’s trading experience came from being mentored by former market makers on the CME & CBOE where he learnt the ins and outs of trading order flow and price action strategies.

I think Shark should be boycotted also. Shark has done nothing to support the customers ripped off by Kozak, yet they were happy to take clients money.


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Hi GlobalZone trader,

I'm Jeremy Tang, the CEO and founder of SharkIndicators. Let me set the record straight as there seems to be a lot of misinformation flowing around.

My company has one and only one director: myself. It is co-owned by myself and Zac White.

Sean was hired as a contractor to do business development services back in 2013 when our company was just starting out.

In early 2015, Sean and SharkIndicator's went seperate ways and Sean's contract ended amicably to start his own business: GZT.

GZT eventually became a partners among the many others that we have. Since learning of his condition, we no longer work with GZT.

Jeremy


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Sean Kozak
212 Rue de la Sève
Gatineau QC J8V 0K4
Canada

Google earth the address.

And more.

So much BS on this clown. https://www.ampfutures.com/landing/sean-kozak-golden-zone-trading/

Your request could not be completed, as the account you are attempting to reach is no longer active.



Sean Kozak is a futures trader of over 8 years and specializes in strategy development and trading education. As a licensed securities advisor in Canada, Sean has helped (scam) traders all over the world reach their goals of becoming professional traders.


SharkIndicators does not have any authority to manage or direct the operations of Golden Zone Trading. GZT has been removed from our vendor list. We are no longer affiliated with GZT. We have lost contact with Mr. Kozak quite some time ago. If you have any information on how to contact him or anyone working for GZT we would appreciate that info. BUT KOZAK IS A DIRECTOR OF SHARK. WTF

Sean is the owner of Golden Zone Trading and the Director of Business Development for SharkIndicators. Sean’s trading experience came from being mentored by former market makers on the CME & CBOE where he learnt the ins and outs of trading order flow and price action strategies.

I think Shark should be boycotted also. Shark has done nothing to support the customers ripped off by Kozak, yet they were happy to take clients money.


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It's ironic how all the people who 'worked closely' and were literally in bed with Kozak are now trying dissociate and wash their hands off him now that their own business interests could be at risk.


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Hi GlobalZone trader,

I'm Jeremy Tang, the CEO and founder of SharkIndicators. Let me set the record straight as there seems to be a lot of misinformation flowing around.

My company has one and only one director: myself. It is co-owned by myself and Zac White.

Sean was hired as a contractor to do business development services back in 2013 when our company was just starting out.

In early 2015, Sean and SharkIndicator's went seperate ways and Sean's contract ended amicably to start his own business: GZT.

GZT eventually became a partners among the many others that we have. Since learning of his condition, we no longer work with GZT.

Jeremy



What condition are you referring to Jeremy? Please elaborate.


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Hi GlobalZone trader,

I'm Jeremy Tang, the CEO and founder of SharkIndicators. Let me set the record straight as there seems to be a lot of misinformation flowing around.

My company has one and only one director: myself. It is co-owned by myself and Zac White.

Sean was hired as a contractor to do business development services back in 2013 when our company was just starting out.

In early 2015, Sean and SharkIndicator's went seperate ways and Sean's contract ended amicably to start his own business: GZT.

GZT eventually became a partners among the many others that we have. Since learning of his condition, we no longer work with GZT.

Jeremy

Dear Mr Tang,

When did you learn of Mr Kozaks condition? Which condition are you referring to?

I find it difficult to believe that since early 2015 SharkIndicators had no knowledge of GZTs and Sean Kozaks fraudulent claims in regards to the software.

Is it true or not that SharkIndicators repaired GZT code for it to run more efficient on Bloodhound and Blackbird as late as March 2017? Keeping in mind that Shark had being coding for GZT since the Integration of Bloodhound approximately as early as 2013.

Is it also correct that SharkIndicators were also aware as early as 2013 that there were inherent problems with the integrity of GZT indicators? And the integrity of GZT itself?

It is also correct while [COLOR="Red"]SharkIndicators[/COLOR] was well aware of all these problems with GZT , SharkIndicators continued to accepted payments from GZT customers. Business was was going great for GZT and SharkIndicators and SharkIndicators was fully aware of all the problems with GZT and choose to do NOTHING about it.

Now that GZT has been finally been found to be a complete fraud full of false claims. What does SharkIndicators plan to do in good faith to all GZT customers who purchased your products through GZT?



All vendors, contractors involved in GZT or any other company that can not provide real trades, true statistics, unequivocal proof of performance should be boycotted by the trading community. As for GZT this inculdes, SharkIndicators, https://www.sharkindicators.com/, Raul Jimenez http://www.icinder.com/,"dont forget about Genevieve Jimenez with her survey and giving out Stevens contact info to push software". ,https://eztradingcomputers.net/, NinjaTrader. Stephen Wesson, saleperson who continued to sell GZT knowing GZT was folding.

Its time for all traders to standup against this type of business practice that thrives within the trading community and punish all parties related to this disease contaminating the trading community, regardless of their denials. Vote with your wallets as that will hurt the greedy self-serving practices they have enjoyed for so long. Amen.

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It is evident that the last few messages show anger, disdain and failure to respect others, as well as understanding legal issues involved in the failure of GZT to provide services to their customers.

Those of you that purchased software from GZT do KNOW me and I have dealt fairly with you by providing you stellar service, which was contracted by GZT to provide for their customers via my company. To be fair, GZT provided good service to customers to about December of 2016. The issues can not be disclosed as they are related to health and would fall under HIPAA rules for disclosure. This has to come from Sean Kozak and NOT from any of the contractors. To be clear, our hands are legally tied as to what we can say or disclose.

This forum thread has become a kangaroo court where non-facts are promulgated by those who do now know or think they know.

GZT was founded in 2015, for the purpose of selling NinjaTrader addons to the public. I was one of the first set of purchasers of the software, which was SDVolume Zones. I have worked for large software companies and my expertise with software, development, large scale deployments is something that was needed by GZT.
I was asked by Sean to consider tech support since I knew the software as well as him. My company, of which you have mis-associated and bismirched has been in business since 2007 with a great reputation. Please get your facts right.

I, indeed, due to the pressure of a large user base did have health issues and I did resign in January 2017. Due to the contractual nature of the original agreement I was to train another tech support person during a period of 90 days which was the minimum number of days I had to fulfill to end the contract. As of April 14, 2017 I no longer had any contractual obligation to GZT, but I am under non-disclosure as part of the agreement.

Soon after I left, Sean failed to provide guidance to the remaining contractors. Attempts were made to continue servicing customers but the contractors finally resigned as of June 15 due to failure of GZT management to provide guidance, support to the contractors. You see, contractors are not really employees and can not act on behalf of the company. Sean has not allowed for disclosure. -- so stop kicking the cat and go to the source of the problem. -- GZT and Sean Kozak.

I have suggested via Skype contact to GZT to release all the software as Open Source so that all the customers can continue to use the software without licensing requirement. No answer from GZT on this venue.

All in all, I too am frustrated and not the ogre you paint, or the crook you imply. The issue with Sean has not been evident until 2017. He can only disclose the health issue and not any of the contractors or associates.

This is my disclosure as to the contract with GZT.
RJ5 Group LLC was under contractual agreement from January 2015 to provide services to Golden Zone Trading ("GZT"). RJ provided Tech Support for installation, software development and installers as contractor from RJ5 Group LLC. RJ5 Group LLC exercised their option to terminate contract services on January 15, 2017. Due to contractual agreement, RJ remained as contractor for 90 days and provided guidance to new support contractors. The last day under contract to Golden Zone Trading was April 14, 2017. RJ5 Group LLC and its staff and contractors no longer provide any services to Golden Zone Trading and are not responsible to any services or lack of service requests from GZT customers. Any issues arising from customers of GZT should be directed to GZT as they are the owners of the software and have distribution rights to the GZT software indicators for NinjaTrader.

RJ

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Dear Mr Tang,

When did you learn of Mr Kozaks condition? Which condition are you referring to?

I find it difficult to believe that since early 2015 SharkIndicators had no knowledge of GZTs and Sean Kozaks fraudulent claims in regards to the software.

Is it true or not that SharkIndicators repaired GZT code for it to run more efficient on Bloodhound and Blackbird as late as March 2017? Keeping in mind that Shark had being coding for GZT since the Integration of Bloodhound approximately as early as 2013.

Is it also correct that SharkIndicators were also aware as early as 2013 that there were inherent problems with the integrity of GZT indicators? And the integrity of GZT itself?

It is also correct while [COLOR="Red"]SharkIndicators[/COLOR] was well aware of all these problems with GZT , SharkIndicators continued to accepted payments from GZT customers. Business was was going great for GZT and SharkIndicators and SharkIndicators was fully aware of all the problems with GZT and choose to do NOTHING about it.

Now that GZT has been finally been found to be a complete fraud full of false claims. What does SharkIndicators plan to do in good faith to all GZT customers who purchased your products through GZT?



All vendors, contractors involved in GZT or any other company that can not provide real trades, true statistics, unequivocal proof of performance should be boycotted by the trading community. As for GZT this inculdes, SharkIndicators, SharkIndicators | Interactive System Builder for NinjaTrader, Raul Jimenez http://www.icinder.com/,"dont forget about Genevieve Jimenez with her survey and giving out Stevens contact info to push software". ,https://eztradingcomputers.net/, NinjaTrader. Stephen Wesson, saleperson who continued to sell GZT knowing GZT was folding.

Its time for all traders to standup against this type of business practice that thrives within the trading community and punish all parties related to this disease contaminating the trading community, regardless of their denials. Vote with your wallets as that will hurt the greedy self-serving practices they have enjoyed for so long. Amen.

Dear Mr Tang,

Thank you for you private message response. You should address the questions directed at you and your company here on the public forum.

Otherwise I will post your private message.

Was Zak your business partner or you Mr Tang ever in the GZT Traderoom helping Nick Vanderburg moderate anytime this year? YES/NO

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I noticed this morning that I had a notification on my phone during the night (my time as I am in the UK). I was that I had been sent the following message by DocR:


DocR - Thu, 13 Jul 2017 21:25:57 -0400
Imran Quazi,

You were treated with respect and provided support while a customer of GZT by me. I find your rhetoric and disdain to be a failure character. Please be sure to have all the fact and understand legal issues before commenting on the forum.

Please also kindly read my last post which should clarify the legal issues involved with the failure of GZT to provide service to their customers.


Respectfully,



RJ

I have posted this here because I am not a scammer and have no intent to hide my identity.
Firstly, ‘You were treated with respect and provided support while a customer of GZT by me.’. I totally agree with RJ. He did provide good and friendly support from this aspect.
However, I find RJ's comment ' I find your rhetoric and disdain to be a failure character.' rather ironic considering that he quotes legal woes in posting Sean Kozak’s and GZT's status information yet he has looked up my locale information in my profile (I had a notification in my Recent Visitors *yawn*) using the GZT customer database and has identified me. Surely the GZT database is proprietary to GZT and belongs to them in their intellectual property rights? Infact when I posted the above posts, I had not intended anything malicious and simply innocently assumed he was a partner of Sean Kozak. But if he is now claiming that he was working as an employee surely from an impropriety perspective, he shouldn't have access to this database?? What does this show about him and his character??

I think RJ is forgetting that I have spent $6-7k on GZT software. He must understand that I am very annoyed that I can see my software being on the junk heap in the very near future should anything happen to my pc which is running my software linked to the Ninjatrader servers or if Ninjatrader remove support for NT7 which they will likely do in the near future. Most importantly my hard earnt money which I had viewed as investment into my future, destroyed. I mean if I had spent this money on myself for enjoyment I would be feeling much happier right??? I am sure that RJ would be totally pissed off like me if he were in my position…
I bought the most recent addon Print Profiler, on 18 March 2017. A few days before, I sent GZT Support an email asking them when the NT8 version would be released and I was told the following by Stephen Wasson:

We are in the final steps to converting our products to NT8 and then have members conduct beta testing. We will be sending everyone an email when this occurs.
Thanks for you patience; it's right around the corner.
Stephen Wasson
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stephen@goldenzonetrading.com
Skype: stephengzt

On this basis, I purchased the Print Profiler software. I am going to approach my credit card company and explain the situation to try to claim the money back. Who knows if it will work? ??? I am sure that RJ would be totally pissed off like me if he were in my position…

I do like the software but currently I can’t use it as 1) I have moved to NT8 and 2) The NT7 version is unstable. In fact, the worst thing is the GZT software is a pile of trash in terms of stability and performance. I installed the most recent patch and it was totally unstable and a dog in terms of speed. I trade equities and when switching between different equities the software would crash or simply the bars would just disappear. At least if the GZT software worked on NT7 I would seriously consider staying on NT7.

I was working until recently as a quantitative software engineer in Investment Banking and have been involved actively in providing software to investment banks who were clients of my employer.
RJ said in his recent post ‘ I have worked for large software companies and my expertise with software, development, large scale deployments is something that was needed by GZT’.
On what planet is this??? I can tell you that if I had been writing and supplying software of the level and quality of the GZT tools, I would have been sacked years ago! I’m sorry RJ if you don’t like this but these are the hard facts. Ever hear of SDLC?? Ever hear of testing or quality assurance?? Using the GZT software I doubt any of these concepts were used!!

And …. I certainly haven’t personally ‘mis-associated’ or ‘besmirched’ your company and have only talked about GZT problems! Whether or not you were partner or an employee in GZT, who knows, but your role was portrayed as a very senior position as head of support in GZT. Yet you were OK to be listed similar on the GZT website until it suited you – I distinctly remember reading you listed in a similar position on the site. Having worked in the tech industry, I would be certain that you had a say in the guidance. development and support of the GZT products while you were ‘employed’ by GZT. I am sure that YOU would be totally pissed off like me if YOU were in MY position…

RJ, if there are people on this forum who are angry and pissed off and venting their anger it is not personal. It is because they have lost thousands of dollars and you were in a senior position as Head of Support in GZT. I don't condone some of the derogatory content that has been posted above but whether you like it or not people will and are going to talk about it and have every right to talk about it within reason.

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Dear Mr Tang,

When did you learn of Mr Kozaks condition? Which condition are you referring to?

I find it difficult to believe that since early 2015 SharkIndicators had no knowledge of GZTs and Sean Kozaks fraudulent claims in regards to the software.

Is it true or not that SharkIndicators repaired GZT code for it to run more efficient on Bloodhound and Blackbird as late as March 2017? Keeping in mind that Shark had being coding for GZT since the Integration of Bloodhound approximately as early as 2013.

Is it also correct that SharkIndicators were also aware as early as 2013 that there were inherent problems with the integrity of GZT indicators? And the integrity of GZT itself?

It is also correct while [COLOR="Red"]SharkIndicators[/COLOR] was well aware of all these problems with GZT , SharkIndicators continued to accepted payments from GZT customers. Business was was going great for GZT and SharkIndicators and SharkIndicators was fully aware of all the problems with GZT and choose to do NOTHING about it.

Now that GZT has been finally been found to be a complete fraud full of false claims. What does SharkIndicators plan to do in good faith to all GZT customers who purchased your products through GZT?



All vendors, contractors involved in GZT or any other company that can not provide real trades, true statistics, unequivocal proof of performance should be boycotted by the trading community. As for GZT this inculdes, SharkIndicators, SharkIndicators | Interactive System Builder for NinjaTrader, Raul Jimenez http://www.icinder.com/,"dont forget about Genevieve Jimenez with her survey and giving out Stevens contact info to push software". ,https://eztradingcomputers.net/, NinjaTrader. Stephen Wesson, saleperson who continued to sell GZT knowing GZT was folding.

Its time for all traders to standup against this type of business practice that thrives within the trading community and punish all parties related to this disease contaminating the trading community, regardless of their denials. Vote with your wallets as that will hurt the greedy self-serving practices they have enjoyed for so long. Amen.

Skeptical, Call me naive but personally I do currently have respect for Jeremy Tang. To be fair, all businesses have cross interests and business partnering. You are implying that Jeremy is guilty of misappropriation or dishonesty which I don't believe.

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Skeptical,

I appreciate the opportunity to clear up the misconceptions.

To address your question about Zac, he is my business partners and responsible for cross training all our partners on our products - that included Nick. Occasionally a trade room moderator will ask us to help them showcase BloodHound (BH) or BlackBird (BB) to their audience, or be on hand to help them answer technical questions that might come up regarding BB or BH, but otherwise we do not involve ourselves with private trade-rooms. As I mentioned, our products do not pertain to any particular trading methodology, technique or system.

Our products are enhancement tools that greatly extend the capabilities of the NinjaTrader platform (think of SharkIndicators BlackBird as like the NinjaTrader ATM on steroids, and SharkIndicators BloodHound like a real-time, visual programming interface of the NinjaTrader Strategy builder - I'm oversimplifying it a bit, our products do a lot more). Since our tools are built this way - they can be utilized for any trading methodology or system. Thus many vendors who are selling trading techniques use our software and add it to their offering.

I also want to speak directly about the concern about SharkIndicators "stepping up to the plate" to provide support to our customers who bought our products through GZT. We are already standing on the plate and never left it, and have no intention of leaving it.

As soon as a customer buys a package from any vendor that includes BB or BH, doesn't matter who it is; we handle support for our products and take care of that customer as our own (as it pertains to BB or BH - again we do not involve ourselves with the particulars of the vendor's trade system).

We support all our customers, whether you bought it directly through us, through a now dead website in the long time in the past, or from any of our past partners (including those that may not be in business anymore), or present partners.


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Dear Mr Tang,

Thank you for you private message response. You should address the questions directed at you and your company here on the public forum.

Otherwise I will post your private message.

Was Zak your business partner or you Mr Tang ever in the GZT Traderoom helping Nick Vanderburg moderate anytime this year? YES/NO


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Skeptical,

I appreciate the opportunity to clear up the misconceptions.

To address your question about Zac, he is my business partners and responsible for cross training all our partners on our products - that included Nick. Occasionally a trade room moderator will ask us to help them showcase BloodHound (BH) or BlackBird (BB) to their audience, or be on hand to help them answer technical questions that might come up regarding BB or BH, but otherwise we do not involve ourselves with private trade-rooms. As I mentioned, our products do not pertain to any particular trading methodology, technique or system.

Our products are enhancement tools that greatly extend the capabilities of the NinjaTrader platform (think of SharkIndicators BlackBird as like the NinjaTrader ATM on steroids, and SharkIndicators BloodHound like a real-time, visual programming interface of the NinjaTrader Strategy builder - I'm oversimplifying it a bit, our products do a lot more). Since our tools are built this way - they can be utilized for any trading methodology or system. Thus many vendors who are selling trading techniques use our software and add it to their offering.

I also want to speak directly about the concern about SharkIndicators "stepping up to the plate" to provide support to our customers who bought our products through GZT. We are already standing on the plate and never left it, and have no intention of leaving it.

As soon as a customer buys a package from any vendor that includes BB or BH, doesn't matter who it is; we handle support for our products and take care of that customer as our own (as it pertains to BB or BH - again we do not involve ourselves with the particulars of the vendor's trade system).

We support all our customers, whether you bought it directly through us, through a now dead website in the long time in the past, or from any of our past partners (including those that may not be in business anymore), or present partners.

"Occasionally a trade room moderator will ask us to help them showcase BloodHound (BH) or BlackBird (BB) to their audience, or be on hand to help them answer technical questions that might come up regarding BB or BH, but otherwise we do not involve ourselves with private trade-rooms."

Perhaps you can explain what Zac is doing in the GZT Traderoom then ?. As he said Just stepping in to help Sean out. Recorded on the 2017-07-13.

2017-07-15_1051__Nick_Zak_SharkIndicators Sound not the best and takes sometime to load.

Clearly you were aware of GZTs problems and still supported them knowing the problems within GZT. Would appreciate it if you told the truth and come clean.

If this was a court of law, you have just been busted lying. Who knows how many other lies are being told. I suspect many by most of GZTs partners.

How do you intend to do to rectify this?

Or should all traders boycott SharkIndicators?

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To all the GZT clients..of which I am one...I feel your frustration and pain of thinking you were duped.
You were not duped......I joined the mastery program June 2016, paid my 6k like everybody else.....when this story broke about GZT and Sean Kozak going dark, I was pissed off too, but I have a sense of reality of what goes on in business and what can happen very quickly when the dominos begin to fall.

Hindsight is 20/20, I think a lot of folks are giving Sean Kozak way to much credit for being the savvy sneaky salesperson who was out to take advantage of people for money..... I personally dont believe this, if you spend any time on the GZT web and have engaged with the mastery program, live trade room, the staff, and the indicator training, not to mention the large video library and the 30 plus Power point presentations, all created by Sean, Your own sensibilities should realize how deep this man went to in trying to provide what he thought was good trading tools and trading practices. Did he intentionally open GZT to rip people off??....No I dont think so.

Jeremy Tang has a good reputation in the industry and hired Sean for a while, that would not have happened if Sean was just an idiot.........Jeremy is to smart for that...You cant fake code writing!!!!!!

If you want to really see scammers...get into the oil contract business in the ME (middle east)...... I have.

If you have never been faced with possibly losing everything you have or being totally devastated by others actions, then you may not know what it takes to survive or come out the other end alive. You certainly dont know emotionally what decisions need to be made to get through such an event. Those decisions dont always look fair to all parties involved. I am not defending...just using my own experience to evaluate !!!!

Nobody knows what actually happened just yet to GZT, some folks on here are saying Sean Kozak had a drug issue, which may be.....some are saying he intentionally scammed clients. All rumors by mad angry people, no factual evidence to anything..............Is GZT gone ..yes..why?? we dont know

I have noticed people attacking others who were associated to GZT, assuming they were part of a scam or malicious activity to defraud.........again I dont believe that, and feel sorry for those folks who wanted to deliver a good product.

RJ has been in this industry long before GZT came along and has a stellar record, he is a product of the software industry, he is a good software developer. And like any new industry, the early days of software development for day trading was occupied by a small group of people who understood C+ code and who all knew each other. I am sure Nick who was moderating in April was moderating out of his own belief in the product. I do not think everybody associated with GZT is a bad apple and you would be wrong to promote that.

I am angry too, but have lived long enough and have enough experience to recognize when a business fails, you can't blame everybody who worked for it or was associated to it.

Look at GM...dam near went broke, and closed several plants, did anybody get a call not to buy GM cars??
Kodak, bankrupt, did anybody call you to tell you not to buy kodak products?
Look up Man Financial, a very large broker who went broke because of 1 person...did it make the entire company bad...NO
The list is endless...with far larger companies that GZT was or will ever be...........

To the people who spent the MONEY on the mastery program, like me, We all looked at it, tried it and liked it, that's why we bought it, nobody forced us, The indicators in the software have validity and when used in conjunction with other discretionary products they are viable. Do I think every signal is to be taken of course not, that would be stupid. The software was sold with a discretionary aspect.

I own the GZT mastery software, I use the SD Volume zones and the Print profiler, both are indicators based on volume and closed transactions....cant cheat that....is the MOMO divergence a perfect indicator ..NOPE...but it does indicate direction and trends....if you bought it looking for a holy grail...well then you were duping yourself.

I am only trying to stimulate quantitative thought into this subject, let us be thinkers and wait for evidence to show light on the subject. Sean Kozak left a lot of people in the lurch, no doubt, I am one of them, but I dont want to say he was a cheater, scammer, liar or he was malicious....for all we know...he got run over by a bus...that just makes him dead.

We had undeniable proof that Hillary Clinton lied to Congress, lied about her servers, lied about the devices she owned, lied about emails and lied to investigators but yet half the country did not want to believe it...but yes it was FACT.......

GZT did not lie......he just disappeared !!! who knows what happened? One day we will find out, I am sure...

Thanks for reading my vent, hope it helps, your not alone.

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To all the GZT clients..of which I am one...I feel your frustration and pain of thinking you were duped.
You were not duped......I joined the mastery program June 2016, paid my 6k like everybody else.....when this story broke about GZT and Sean Kozak going dark, I was pissed off too, but I have a sense of reality of what goes on in business and what can happen very quickly when the dominos begin to fall.

Hindsight is 20/20, I think a lot of folks are giving Sean Kozak way to much credit for being the savvy sneaky salesperson who was out to take advantage of people for money..... I personally dont believe this, if you spend any time on the GZT web and have engaged with the mastery program, live trade room, the staff, and the indicator training, not to mention the large video library and the 30 plus Power point presentations, all created by Sean, Your own sensibilities should realize how deep this man went to in trying to provide what he thought was good trading tools and trading practices. Did he intentionally open GZT to rip people off??....No I dont think so.

Jeremy Tang has a good reputation in the industry and hired Sean for a while, that would not have happened if Sean was just an idiot.........Jeremy is to smart for that...You cant fake code writing!!!!!!

If you want to really see scammers...get into the oil contract business in the ME (middle east)...... I have.

If you have never been faced with possibly losing everything you have or being totally devastated by others actions, then you may not know what it takes to survive or come out the other end alive. You certainly dont know emotionally what decisions need to be made to get through such an event. Those decisions dont always look fair to all parties involved. I am not defending...just using my own experience to evaluate !!!!

Nobody knows what actually happened just yet to GZT, some folks on here are saying Sean Kozak had a drug issue, which may be.....some are saying he intentionally scammed clients. All rumors by mad angry people, no factual evidence to anything..............Is GZT gone ..yes..why?? we dont know

I have noticed people attacking others who were associated to GZT, assuming they were part of a scam or malicious activity to defraud.........again I dont believe that, and feel sorry for those folks who wanted to deliver a good product.

RJ has been in this industry long before GZT came along and has a stellar record, he is a product of the software industry, he is a good software developer. And like any new industry, the early days of software development for day trading was occupied by a small group of people who understood C+ code and who all knew each other. I am sure Nick who was moderating in April was moderating out of his own belief in the product. I do not think everybody associated with GZT is a bad apple and you would be wrong to promote that.

I am angry too, but have lived long enough and have enough experience to recognize when a business fails, you can't blame everybody who worked for it or was associated to it.

Look at GM...dam near went broke, and closed several plants, did anybody get a call not to buy GM cars??
Kodak, bankrupt, did anybody call you to tell you not to buy kodak products?
Look up Man Financial, a very large broker who went broke because of 1 person...did it make the entire company bad...NO
The list is endless...with far larger companies that GZT was or will ever be...........

To the people who spent the MONEY on the mastery program, like me, We all looked at it, tried it and liked it, that's why we bought it, nobody forced us, The indicators in the software have validity and when used in conjunction with other discretionary products they are viable. Do I think every signal is to be taken of course not, that would be stupid. The software was sold with a discretionary aspect.

I own the GZT mastery software, I use the SD Volume zones and the Print profiler, both are indicators based on volume and closed transactions....cant cheat that....is the MOMO divergence a perfect indicator ..NOPE...but it does indicate direction and trends....if you bought it looking for a holy grail...well then you were duping yourself.

I am only trying to stimulate quantitative thought into this subject, let us be thinkers and wait for evidence to show light on the subject. Sean Kozak left a lot of people in the lurch, no doubt, I am one of them, but I dont want to say he was a cheater, scammer, liar or he was malicious....for all we know...he got run over by a bus...that just makes him dead.

We had undeniable proof that Hillary Clinton lied to Congress, lied about her servers, lied about the devices she owned, lied about emails and lied to investigators but yet half the country did not want to believe it...but yes it was FACT.......

GZT did not lie......he just disappeared !!! who knows what happened? One day we will find out, I am sure...

Thanks for reading my vent, hope it helps, your not alone.

YogaTrading

When you get a new computer, unable to license the software how will you feel then?

Conservative numbers are 300 Mastery Students *7000k = 2.1 mil.

Shark Indicators. Bloodhound 300 sales = around 200k.

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When you get a new computer, unable to license the software how will you feel then?

Conservative numbers are 300 Mastery Students *7000k = 2.1 mil.

Shark Indicators. Bloodhound 300 sales = around 200k.


My friend, I do understand, and I am pissed too. You have the right to be mad, I am not wanting to take that away from you or minimize that.

I am just shedding my own thoughts and hoping that the people who worked for or worked with GZT are not just thrown under the bus for being involved in something they to thought was good.

Nobody has actually proved his software did not work.

What we are all upset over is his disappearance an inability to get support for the software we bought. True??

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Skeptical,

As I mentioned before, Zac states he was there to answer BH related questions, it doesn't really get any more clear than that.

You're obviously entitled to your opinion, but I'm not sure what your end game is here...to pin the fall of GZT on us? You call for a boycott, presumably in a one man crusade to destroy our business, but to what end? Have you thought about the implications of users losing support for BH or BB as well should your wishes come true?

Explain to the good people here, how they would benefit from that.

I understand your mad about the situation, believe me I would be too. But, it sounds like you've made up your mind and are looking for someone to burn at the stake.

So I don't think anything I'll say now or in the future will change it, nor should I continue to try. Hey, "you can't please everyone" as the say.

Thankfully, I'm pretty glad the good people on Futures.io are very intelligent and are smart enough to draw their own conclusions - and ultimately decide for themselves which statements of yours are falsehoods and which of your questions are clearly designed to mislead, versus actual facts.

I stand by our products and the hard work my team and I put into it. Our other partners and many loyal customers appreciate our efforts, our products, service and attention to detail - and we continue to keep working hard on improving them every day. Right now my main focus, as it has been since last November is porting our two main products over to NT8, so this seemingly unproductive banter has been a distraction for me on doing what I believe really matters - which is working on improving our our products, and getting the NT8 version of BH and BB into the hands of our customers.

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"Occasionally a trade room moderator will ask us to help them showcase BloodHound (BH) or BlackBird (BB) to their audience, or be on hand to help them answer technical questions that might come up regarding BB or BH, but otherwise we do not involve ourselves with private trade-rooms."

Perhaps you can explain what Zac is doing in the GZT Traderoom then ?. As he said Just stepping in to help Sean out. Recorded on the 2017-07-13.

2017-07-15_1051__Nick_Zak_SharkIndicators Sound not the best and takes sometime to load.

Clearly you were aware of GZTs problems and still supported them knowing the problems within GZT. Would appreciate it if you told the truth and come clean.

If this was a court of law, you have just been busted lying. Who knows how many other lies are being told. I suspect many by most of GZTs partners.

How do you intend to do to rectify this?

Or should all traders boycott SharkIndicators?


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Trading schools review is out, funny read.

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Thought I would share what I received from Ontario Securities Commission after contacting Juliet Persuad when her contact info was shared in this thread. (I respect all the great comments in this thread, but feel we should also start reaching out to all GZT mastery students, and others affected by GZT to build a list for a class action lawsuit against Sean Kozak and GZT. Any lawyers at futures.io? I was also going to wait for the right moment, but don't think it will ever come - has there been discussion of how to get the indicators we paid thousands of dollars for to be ported over to NT 8? I saw DocR's statement that if the indicators were open source, then they could be ported over by others to NT 8).

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Thank you for your complaint to the Ontario Securities Commission (OSC) concerning Golden Zone Trading (GZT) and Sean Kozak.

OSC's Role

The OSC administers and enforces Ontario securities law. One of the ways in which the OSC protects Ontario investors is to require those in the business of trading or advising in securities in Ontario to be registered with the OSC in the proper category.

Sean Kozak and GZT are not registered to trade or advise in securities in Ontario.


The U.S. Securities Commission and Exchange Commission (SEC)

Even if they were registered, a registration in Ontario does not permit the company to provide investment dealing services to clients who reside outside Ontario. Also, a company in the business of dealing or advising in securities, would generally have to comply with the securities laws in the jurisdiction where the investor resides.

As a resident of the United States, you should consider contacting the SEC if you have not done so already. Their contact information can be found on their website : https://www.sec.gov/.

Enforcement Matters

The information you provided will be forwarded to the Enforcement branch of the OSC for further review.

Enforcement staff review matters against a set of criteria to determine, among other things, whether there may be a potential breach of Ontario securities law, the magnitude of that potential breach, the available evidence, the likelihood of success were the matter to proceed, and the investigative value of the matter. No single factor is necessarily determinative, and each matter is also assessed against our available resources.

OSC staff do not generally comment on the existence, status, or nature of an investigation. The purposes of this practice are to protect the integrity of investigations, to ensure the complaint process is not used to affect the market and to promote fairness towards those who are the subject of investigations.

If proceedings are taken and allegations are proven, the Commission may impose sanctions and penalties that are specified in the Securities Act (Ontario). Sanctions may include bans on future trading in securities, or acting as a director or officer of a company, and/or financial penalties.

Legal Advice

OSC staff may not provide legal advice. You may wish to consult with a lawyer in your jurisdiction for advice about possible remedies that may be available to you.


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Thank you,
That was productive and does shed factual evidence to the total picture




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Thought I would share what I received from Ontario Securities Commission after contacting Juliet Persuad when her contact info was shared in this thread. (I respect all the great comments in this thread, but feel we should also start reaching out to all GZT mastery students, and others affected by GZT to build a list for a class action lawsuit against Sean Kozak and GZT. Any lawyers at futures.io? I was also going to wait for the right moment, but don't think it will ever come - has there been discussion of how to get the indicators we paid thousands of dollars for to be ported over to NT 8? I saw DocR's statement that if the indicators were open source, then they could be ported over by others to NT 8).

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Thank you for your complaint to the Ontario Securities Commission (OSC) concerning Golden Zone Trading (GZT) and Sean Kozak.

OSC's Role

The OSC administers and enforces Ontario securities law. One of the ways in which the OSC protects Ontario investors is to require those in the business of trading or advising in securities in Ontario to be registered with the OSC in the proper category.

Sean Kozak and GZT are not registered to trade or advise in securities in Ontario.


The U.S. Securities Commission and Exchange Commission (SEC)

Even if they were registered, a registration in Ontario does not permit the company to provide investment dealing services to clients who reside outside Ontario. Also, a company in the business of dealing or advising in securities, would generally have to comply with the securities laws in the jurisdiction where the investor resides.

As a resident of the United States, you should consider contacting the SEC if you have not done so already. Their contact information can be found on their website : https://www.sec.gov/.

Enforcement Matters

The information you provided will be forwarded to the Enforcement branch of the OSC for further review.

Enforcement staff review matters against a set of criteria to determine, among other things, whether there may be a potential breach of Ontario securities law, the magnitude of that potential breach, the available evidence, the likelihood of success were the matter to proceed, and the investigative value of the matter. No single factor is necessarily determinative, and each matter is also assessed against our available resources.

OSC staff do not generally comment on the existence, status, or nature of an investigation. The purposes of this practice are to protect the integrity of investigations, to ensure the complaint process is not used to affect the market and to promote fairness towards those who are the subject of investigations.

If proceedings are taken and allegations are proven, the Commission may impose sanctions and penalties that are specified in the Securities Act (Ontario). Sanctions may include bans on future trading in securities, or acting as a director or officer of a company, and/or financial penalties.

Legal Advice

OSC staff may not provide legal advice. You may wish to consult with a lawyer in your jurisdiction for advice about possible remedies that may be available to you.


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Trading schools review is out, funny read.

https://www.tradingschools.org/reviews/golden-zone-trading/

What a great review. Even SharkIndicators gets a mention.

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Just found where Kozak disappeared to. He is back mowing lawns where he began.


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It is evident that the last few messages show anger, disdain and failure to respect others, as well as understanding legal issues involved in the failure of GZT to provide services to their customers.

Those of you that purchased software from GZT do KNOW me and I have dealt fairly with you by providing you stellar service, which was contracted by GZT to provide for their customers via my company. To be fair, GZT provided good service to customers to about December of 2016. The issues can not be disclosed as they are related to health and would fall under HIPAA rules for disclosure. This has to come from Sean Kozak and NOT from any of the contractors. To be clear, our hands are legally tied as to what we can say or disclose.

This forum thread has become a kangaroo court where non-facts are promulgated by those who do now know or think they know.

GZT was founded in 2015, for the purpose of selling NinjaTrader addons to the public. I was one of the first set of purchasers of the software, which was SDVolume Zones. I have worked for large software companies and my expertise with software, development, large scale deployments is something that was needed by GZT.
I was asked by Sean to consider tech support since I knew the software as well as him. My company, of which you have mis-associated and bismirched has been in business since 2007 with a great reputation. Please get your facts right.

I, indeed, due to the pressure of a large user base did have health issues and I did resign in January 2017. Due to the contractual nature of the original agreement I was to train another tech support person during a period of 90 days which was the minimum number of days I had to fulfill to end the contract. As of April 14, 2017 I no longer had any contractual obligation to GZT, but I am under non-disclosure as part of the agreement.

Soon after I left, Sean failed to provide guidance to the remaining contractors. Attempts were made to continue servicing customers but the contractors finally resigned as of June 15 due to failure of GZT management to provide guidance, support to the contractors. You see, contractors are not really employees and can not act on behalf of the company. Sean has not allowed for disclosure. -- so stop kicking the cat and go to the source of the problem. -- GZT and Sean Kozak.

I have suggested via Skype contact to GZT to release all the software as Open Source so that all the customers can continue to use the software without licensing requirement. No answer from GZT on this venue.

All in all, I too am frustrated and not the ogre you paint, or the crook you imply. The issue with Sean has not been evident until 2017. He can only disclose the health issue and not any of the contractors or associates.

This is my disclosure as to the contract with GZT.
RJ5 Group LLC was under contractual agreement from January 2015 to provide services to Golden Zone Trading ("GZT"). RJ provided Tech Support for installation, software development and installers as contractor from RJ5 Group LLC. RJ5 Group LLC exercised their option to terminate contract services on January 15, 2017. Due to contractual agreement, RJ remained as contractor for 90 days and provided guidance to new support contractors. The last day under contract to Golden Zone Trading was April 14, 2017. RJ5 Group LLC and its staff and contractors no longer provide any services to Golden Zone Trading and are not responsible to any services or lack of service requests from GZT customers. Any issues arising from customers of GZT should be directed to GZT as they are the owners of the software and have distribution rights to the GZT software indicators for NinjaTrader.

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This webinar is either a recording or live. Kozak is currently presenting it. Must be automated surely.

https://app.webinarjam.net/live/30114/554ad48189/1/140023200

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Had a quick look ... Could be recorded I think. Current bit seems to be revolved around the Print Profiler. Also he cant sell his software anymore as he has supposedly (??) been removed from Ninjatrader as a developer.

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Had a quick look ... Could be recorded I think. Current bit seems to be revolved around the Print Profiler. Also he cant sell his software anymore as he has supposedly (??) been removed from Ninjatrader as a developer.

At best I think that means he may not be able to use the NT license feature, but it is doubtful to impact his ability to sell it. Only the ability to deliver it, perhaps.

Not sure who his payment processor is, but maybe they still have his account turned on.

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Ordering is not processing, therefore no one can purchase products at this time.

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As to licensing, it is done via NinjaTrader and their servers will continue to validate the license.

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I have read this entire thread with interest as a couple of my trading friends purchased GZT and have been very concerned with recent developments. I myself, never purchased anything from GZT, thankfully. I did see some of his webinars. Sean is a very good salesperson.

I have been burned by other vendors and wasted money on things that did not work. Such is the path of learning to trade it seems.

People have been ripped off and are rightfully very angry. At the same time, some would appear to want to burn the house down because they found a stain on the wall.
As stated earlier your anger is properly directed at Sean Kozak and GZT. Other vendors such as Shark Indicators should not be tarnished because of Sean's bad business practices.

I own Bloodhound and Blackbird from Shark Indicators. If people go after them to hurt their business, then innocent traders like myself, who find their products helpful, may be damaged. SI develops and sells tools. That is all. They do not run rooms. They are separate and distinct from GZT. They have no culpability in the failure of GZT and I appreciate Jeremy Tang setting the record straight in this thread.

I think it is healthy for the trading community to go after charlatans with laser focus and expose them. But a laser is better than a shotgun. Not every person who ever had their name associated with a bad apple is thereby rotten by association. The proverb in this case does not apply.

I do not expect people will recover any money from GZT. When do they ever?
I hope for the sake of my friends and all who purchased GZT that he keeps the licensing open at NT for those who wish to continue to use the indicators.
Better yet, they will find better trading methods less dependent on indicators.
Full disclaimer: I am not in any way associated with any vendor or trading business. I am just a private trader and I only offer my personal opinion.

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I have read this entire thread with interest as a couple of my trading friends purchased GZT and have been very concerned with recent developments. I myself, never purchased anything from GZT, thankfully. I did see some of his webinars. Sean is a very good salesperson.

I have been burned by other vendors and wasted money on things that did not work. Such is the path of learning to trade it seems.

People have been ripped off and are rightfully very angry. At the same time, some would appear to want to burn the house down because they found a stain on the wall.
As stated earlier your anger is properly directed at Sean Kozak and GZT. Other vendors such as Shark Indicators should not be tarnished because of Sean's bad business practices.

I own Bloodhound and Blackbird from Shark Indicators. If people go after them to hurt their business, then innocent traders like myself, who find their products helpful, may be damaged. SI develops and sells tools. That is all. They do not run rooms. They are separate and distinct from GZT. They have no culpability in the failure of GZT and I appreciate Jeremy Tang setting the record straight in this thread.

I think it is healthy for the trading community to go after charlatans with laser focus and expose them. But a laser is better than a shotgun. Not every person who ever had their name associated with a bad apple is thereby rotten by association. The proverb in this case does not apply.

I do not expect people will recover any money from GZT. When do they ever?
I hope for the sake of my friends and all who purchased GZT that he keeps the licensing open at NT for those who wish to continue to use the indicators.
Better yet, they will find better trading methods less dependent on indicators.
Full disclaimer: I am not in any way associated with any vendor or trading business. I am just a private trader and I only offer my personal opinion.

There is no way that I will ever believe that Jeremy Tang from SharkIndicators was totally oblivious to Kozak's actions. They basically sleep together. He and others should have made a stand back then instead of happily accepting customers money from GZTs marketing promotions.

Why don't they all get a signed affidavit from a lawyer stating they had no knowledge of what was really happening with Kozak and GZT. I guarantee they won,t, Ask yourself why????

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"I hope for the sake of my friends and all who purchased GZT that he keeps the licensing open at NT for those who wish to continue to use the indicators."

That's the big question that purchases face. Mr GZT will most likely set a new scam site up and resell the licenses. So far he hasn't responded to any emails, phone calls so I wouldn't be holding your breath hoping he will do the right thing. I hope karma hits him hard.

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"I hope for the sake of my friends and all who purchased GZT that he keeps the licensing open at NT for those who wish to continue to use the indicators."

That's the big question that purchases face. Mr GZT will most likely set a new scam site up and resell the licenses. So far he hasn't responded to any emails, phone calls so I wouldn't be holding your breath hoping he will do the right thing. I hope karma hits him hard.

I am a bit late to this and just went through last few months of posts. I have an existing license for PP and was wondering if anyone here knows how to get around the licensing aspect? As I need to upgrade my computer fairly soon. Could it be hacked? After all those customers who have paid for what its worth?

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I am a bit late to this and just went through last few months of posts. I have an existing license for PP and was wondering if anyone here knows how to get around the licensing aspect? As I need to upgrade my computer fairly soon. Could it be hacked? After all those customers who have paid for what its worth?

That should not matter as long as NT is registered and you are logged in on your account since your license information is held by them . Ofcourse there are hacked / cracked and rebuildt versions of nearly evrything that is made for Ninjatrader.
Most of the softwares and indicators already out there are made up from the same stuff. Most of it stolen from Futures.io elite member section like Kozak did with the GZT stuf and put his own twist on it re-package it and sold it for 5 k .

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I am a bit late to this and just went through last few months of posts. I have an existing license for PP and was wondering if anyone here knows how to get around the licensing aspect? As I need to upgrade my computer fairly soon. Could it be hacked? After all those customers who have paid for what its worth?

I'm in the same boat. I don't think you can. Many of us have contacted the scam merchant Kozak to no avail.

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Please be aware that licensing is NOT done by any server from GZT. All licensing was recorded on the NinjaTrader servers which is provided to the software developers.
As long as you continue to run the software on the same computer that it is now licensed you should not experience any issue related to licensing.
The real issue is what will happen if you update the BIOS, buy a new computer, Upgrade Operating System. -- in such cases there is no way to license the new computer. Licensing was done using 3rd Party licensing option guidance provided by NinjaTrader.


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Just got this email from Sean Kozak....!

Title of email was: My Sincere Apologies - I Am Here To Serve

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As many of you know, I have been absent from Golden Zone Trading on and off for the past year. Please accept my most sincere apologies for any inconvenience you may have experienced as a result of my “disappearances”.

I have been suffering from mental health problems. This is not be an excuse for my behaviour, however, it is my deepest hope that you can understand and empathise with what I have gone through and am still going through. I overcame two near-death experiences and am currently working with both counsellors and doctors to get the help I need to remain alive and healthy. My condition is improving every day, and I am now picking things up where I had left them off.

Let me be the first to reassure those of you who use NinjaTrader, they will continue to support our software. That being said, in the coming months, Golden Zone Trading (GTZ) will be putting in place a new licensing provider service in order to provide a more reliable and efficient way for you to maintain and manage your license keys on an ongoing basis.

I am happy to report that our software is stable on NinjaTrader 7 (NT7) and that NinjaTrader 8 (NT8) is in Beta. Although we cannot provide you with a release date at this time, we are working avidly to release it shortly. This will take place once the new licensing provider service is in place.

As for the Mastery Program, our goal is to move to alternative delivery models that will allow for educational support that is not predicated on my personal involvement alone and that is based on our software rather than on signals and trade systems. As such, we will be filming a new set of videos that will be available in the member’s area. My intention is to set up the program in a way that either I, or an outside moderator who is well versed in the software, can teach lessons on the different topics related to the use of the software and the tool-set that you purchased.

As for user support, I will be answering your emails as I continue on my path to recovery. We are also working on a potential Q&A webinar where topics of interest could be discussed by the user community. Date for this is to be determined

Notwithstanding my prolonged absence, the company is financially stable and will continue to provide you with services moving forward. We have resumed working on various development projects that were left unfinished at the time of my departure and that offer promising opportunities for the future. We are hoping to roll out these improvements at the earliest opportunity.

In order to show our appreciation to our Mastery Program members during this difficult period, Golden Zone Trading is happy to provide you with the following products for FREE:
• VPCLevels or GoldenFibs (You may own one already, well give the other for FREE)
• Fractal Converter
• Bartype Suite
We will gladly get you licensed for these once were all switched over to the new licensing solution. Simply contact us by email and we’ll put you on the list to receive these.

To conclude, I would like to thank each and every one of you for your patience and understanding through this dark period of my life. I also wish to thank those from RJ5 Group and SharkIndicators, the team at GTZ, as well as others who did everything they could to hold things together during my absence. These individuals are not to be blamed for any shortcomings on my part, but instead should be praised for their efforts to help during my absence.

I would like to apologise again for any inconvenience that you may have experienced in the past several months. I hope that this letter can serve to reassure you of my intentions and of my concern for the company and its customers. I am confident that we can move together towards a bright future





Happy Trading!

Sean Kozak
CEO/Founder
Golden Zone Trading Inc.
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Just got this email from Sean Kozak....!

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As many of you know, I have been absent from Golden Zone Trading on and off for the past year. Please accept my most sincere apologies for any inconvenience you may have experienced as a result of my “disappearances”.

I have been suffering from mental health problems. This is not be an excuse for my behaviour, however, it is my deepest hope that you can understand and empathise with what I have gone through and am still going through. I overcame two near-death experiences and am currently working with both counsellors and doctors to get the help I need to remain alive and healthy. My condition is improving every day, and I am now picking things up where I had left them off.

Let me be the first to reassure those of you who use NinjaTrader, they will continue to support our software. That being said, in the coming months, Golden Zone Trading (GTZ) will be putting in place a new licensing provider service in order to provide a more reliable and efficient way for you to maintain and manage your license keys on an ongoing basis.

I am happy to report that our software is stable on NinjaTrader 7 (NT7) and that NinjaTrader 8 (NT8) is in Beta. Although we cannot provide you with a release date at this time, we are working avidly to release it shortly. This will take place once the new licensing provider service is in place.

As for the Mastery Program, our goal is to move to alternative delivery models that will allow for educational support that is not predicated on my personal involvement alone and that is based on our software rather than on signals and trade systems. As such, we will be filming a new set of videos that will be available in the member’s area. My intention is to set up the program in a way that either I, or an outside moderator who is well versed in the software, can teach lessons on the different topics related to the use of the software and the tool-set that you purchased.

As for user support, I will be answering your emails as I continue on my path to recovery. We are also working on a potential Q&A webinar where topics of interest could be discussed by the user community. Date for this is to be determined

Notwithstanding my prolonged absence, the company is financially stable and will continue to provide you with services moving forward. We have resumed working on various development projects that were left unfinished at the time of my departure and that offer promising opportunities for the future. We are hoping to roll out these improvements at the earliest opportunity.

In order to show our appreciation to our Mastery Program members during this difficult period, Golden Zone Trading is happy to provide you with the following products for FREE:
• VPCLevels or GoldenFibs (You may own one already, well give the other for FREE)
• Fractal Converter
• Bartype Suite
We will gladly get you licensed for these once were all switched over to the new licensing solution. Simply contact us by email and we’ll put you on the list to receive these.

To conclude, I would like to thank each and every one of you for your patience and understanding through this dark period of my life. I also wish to thank those from RJ5 Group and SharkIndicators, the team at GTZ, as well as others who did everything they could to hold things together during my absence. These individuals are not to be blamed for any shortcomings on my part, but instead should be praised for their efforts to help during my absence.

I would like to apologise again for any inconvenience that you may have experienced in the past several months. I hope that this letter can serve to reassure you of my intentions and of my concern for the company and its customers. I am confident that we can move together towards a bright future





Happy Trading!

Sean Kozak
CEO/Founder
Golden Zone Trading Inc.
support@goldenzonetrading.com

Dear John,

Please forgive me for lying and ripping you all off. I'm a sick person.

"I am happy to report that our software is stable on NinjaTrader 7 (NT7)" Not correct. Unable to run the charts in a fast market without freezing. Same problem.

On the positive. At least now you can buy a new computer and transfer the licenses.

The big problem here is TRUST. Once lost extremely difficult to get back.

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Reading this letter is nothing but a bad joke. Sadly its too late for anything trust worthy to come from this fraudster. Makes me want to puke.

Kozak MUST OPEN SOURCE the indicators he stole , or repay all the money. What do you think will happen. Neither. This guy has just reverted into his salesperson pitch looking for sympathy playing the poor me card. Well, what about all the people you have misled and stole from? Perhaps, You Kozak you can answer that question here.

You are a piece of crap and should be charged with fraud. Perhaps, do some more coke , enough to overdose like the last two times and do the world a favor.

Love to hear your response Mr Sean Kozak the super lawn mowing man.

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I am a GZT Mastery Student


Sean Kozak and GZT is all BS.

Sean can not trade. His system does'nt work nor has it been back tested correctly. The back-testing results are a complete joke, I don't even think he knows how to back-test. Yet he claims to use these tests as his format to trade Sim but never live. He will not show his live trade logs using the same BS excuse for legal reasons. blah blah. He always shows a sim account, never a live account. So why doesn't he get the technology to copy his sim trades to his live account, This way he can navigate any legalities. But he won't. WHY? Because his system does not work or is profitable.

It always amazes me when i log into the traderoom there will be a pre market winner on his screens however once the room is open and he begins to trade like some cowboy gunslinger from the wild west you begin to see all the loss's', and there are plently. Hey Folks. thats trading. lol. Now lets open 2 more trades as fast as we can to make that loss back, Whoops!!!!! 2 more losses . But hey folks, THATs TRADING FOLKS.

This is a warning to any customers buying or thinking to purchase GZT. Buyer Beware. Very aware, Extremely aware, in fact get you best runners on and run Forest run. Trading is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you will get. At least with the chocolates you get some pleasure, unlike GZT where you get snake oil and sour grapes.

Invite Sean Kozak to respond.


He hasn't responded yet? Apart from his POOR ME letter.

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Just got this email from Sean Kozak....!

Title of email was: My Sincere Apologies - I Am Here To Serve

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

As many of you know, I have been absent from Golden Zone Trading on and off for the past year. Please accept my most sincere apologies for any inconvenience you may have experienced as a result of my “disappearances”.

I have been suffering from mental health problems. This is not be an excuse for my behaviour, however, it is my deepest hope that you can understand and empathise with what I have gone through and am still going through. I overcame two near-death experiences and am currently working with both counsellors and doctors to get the help I need to remain alive and healthy. My condition is improving every day, and I am now picking things up where I had left them off.

Let me be the first to reassure those of you who use NinjaTrader, they will continue to support our software. That being said, in the coming months, Golden Zone Trading (GTZ) will be putting in place a new licensing provider service in order to provide a more reliable and efficient way for you to maintain and manage your license keys on an ongoing basis.

I am happy to report that our software is stable on NinjaTrader 7 (NT7) and that NinjaTrader 8 (NT8) is in Beta. Although we cannot provide you with a release date at this time, we are working avidly to release it shortly. This will take place once the new licensing provider service is in place.

As for the Mastery Program, our goal is to move to alternative delivery models that will allow for educational support that is not predicated on my personal involvement alone and that is based on our software rather than on signals and trade systems. As such, we will be filming a new set of videos that will be available in the member’s area. My intention is to set up the program in a way that either I, or an outside moderator who is well versed in the software, can teach lessons on the different topics related to the use of the software and the tool-set that you purchased.

As for user support, I will be answering your emails as I continue on my path to recovery. We are also working on a potential Q&A webinar where topics of interest could be discussed by the user community. Date for this is to be determined

Notwithstanding my prolonged absence, the company is financially stable and will continue to provide you with services moving forward. We have resumed working on various development projects that were left unfinished at the time of my departure and that offer promising opportunities for the future. We are hoping to roll out these improvements at the earliest opportunity.

In order to show our appreciation to our Mastery Program members during this difficult period, Golden Zone Trading is happy to provide you with the following products for FREE:
• VPCLevels or GoldenFibs (You may own one already, well give the other for FREE)
• Fractal Converter
• Bartype Suite
We will gladly get you licensed for these once were all switched over to the new licensing solution. Simply contact us by email and we’ll put you on the list to receive these.

To conclude, I would like to thank each and every one of you for your patience and understanding through this dark period of my life. I also wish to thank those from RJ5 Group and SharkIndicators, the team at GTZ, as well as others who did everything they could to hold things together during my absence. These individuals are not to be blamed for any shortcomings on my part, but instead should be praised for their efforts to help during my absence.

I would like to apologise again for any inconvenience that you may have experienced in the past several months. I hope that this letter can serve to reassure you of my intentions and of my concern for the company and its customers. I am confident that we can move together towards a bright future





Happy Trading!

Sean Kozak
CEO/Founder
Golden Zone Trading Inc.
support@goldenzonetrading.com

" I also wish to thank those from RJ5 Group and SharkIndicators, the team at GTZ, as well as others who did everything they could to hold things together during my absence"

What he is really saying is I'd like to thank everyone for keeping my scam going and covering up for me.

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So anyone hear any new news?

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So anyone hear any new news?

Nothing. Have you?

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Nothing. Have you?

No. Only the last email I got which I posted. I guess SK was testing the waters to see how much animosity there is towards him. Haven't heard anything since.

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I tried GZT mastery and lost my butt using his system. In all fairness this was in 2015 before he was using market profile levels, he was only using his zones as support and resistance. The problem with his supply and demand zones is that they are drawn on your screen based on candle patterns. When the candle pattern shows up the software then draws a mini market profile inside the zone to give you entry points. The problem with the system is that candle patterns only work about 30% of the time.

I watched his trade room every week for about 6 months. During that time he lost a lot more money than he made. He did openly state he was trading in sim because of Canadian laws.

I did not like his system and did not make money. I like higher percentage systems.

On the opposite side though. I do have a friend who uses GZT zones and loves them. She does not use the GZT system for stops though.

What she does is utilize the response from his zones to move her stop to Break even. Seans zones usually do provide a response, albeit a small response many times, in the market. My friend moves her stop to BE as soon as she is ahead a few ticks and does not let the trades go against her ever. She gets stopped out a lot but has been profitable with it.

The system just depends on your trading style.

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I tried GZT mastery and lost my butt using his system. In all fairness this was in 2015 before he was using market profile levels, he was only using his zones as support and resistance. The problem with his supply and demand zones is that they are drawn on your screen based on candle patterns. When the candle pattern shows up the software then draws a mini market profile inside the zone to give you entry points. The problem with the system is that candle patterns only work about 30% of the time.

I watched his trade room every week for about 6 months. During that time he lost a lot more money than he made. He did openly state he was trading in sim because of Canadian laws.

I did not like his system and did not make money. I like higher percentage systems.

On the opposite side though. I do have a friend who uses GZT zones and loves them. She does not use the GZT system for stops though.

What she does is utilize the response from his zones to move her stop to Break even. Seans zones usually do provide a response, albeit a small response many times, in the market. My friend moves her stop to BE as soon as she is ahead a few ticks and does not let the trades go against her ever. She gets stopped out a lot but has been profitable with it.

The system just depends on your trading style.

When you put trust into someone like Sean Kozak and many many others only to find out 1 or 2 yrs down the track that trust was built on Seans dishonestly. This is incredibly damaging to the psyche of the trader.

I believe moving your stop to fast isn't a good strategy, by doing that you miss out on the runners that can make all the difference to your PnL. If scalping would you even use a hard stop or perhaps a mental stop is better.

Enjoyed your post.

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Sean sent all of his clients a letter saying he apologizes for the "inconvenience" his absence has caused us. It was much more than an inconvenience to have you go away for months without the slightest regard for your customers. Then, once again, you go radio silent. All we have heard from Canada since your letter is nothing but crickets chirping. Once again, lots of promises, but no delivery on those promises.

Come on Sean, you can do better than that. Man up.

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Sean sent all of his clients a letter saying he apologizes for the "inconvenience" his absence has caused us. It was much more than an inconvenience to have you go away for months without the slightest regard for your customers. Then, once again, you go radio silent. All we have heard from Canada since your letter is nothing but crickets chirping. Once again, lots of promises, but no delivery on those promises.

Come on Sean, you can do better than that. Man up.

Sean Kozak is nothing but a scammer. Would be interested to know how many people have requested a refund to no avail. As far as I'm concerned Kozak should be in prison , Madoff be the perfect cell mate. I have nothing good to say about the lawn mower man known as Sean Kozak.

He could write a book. The many promises of a snake oil salesperson. By Snake Scam Kozak.

Man up Sean, MAN UP. I know you read this thread.

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Dear ,

I'm delighted to write this email as we are just around the corner from opening the doors back up for the new and revamped (Mastery Program). The program has been reconfigured under the new name - “Online Futures Training Program.”

We have had several emails coming in after I addressed the public a few weeks ago and I have so much to share with all of you. First, I want to thank all of you for your kind words of encouragement and blessings. I'm grateful for your loyal business and support.

Secondly, I have hired an entirely new team to run GZT. The new team will allow for a more secure organisation powered by a dynamic environment of seasoned professionals. Once we open the doors up for our education, I will introduce them accordingly.

As for what to expect with regards to our on-going services, please see the notes below:
1. We are rolling out a whole new website with a new members area and training videos.
2. I have hired an expert trader and GZT customer who is well versed in our products to run the live training room full-time!
3. We will resume education lessons on Tuesdays and have live application classes Wednesdays and Thursdays.
4. In our on-going quest to deliver valuable education to our members, will we demonstrate new and diverse methods for using our tools. There will be less emphasis on trading signals and more focus on trading techniques, software use, and market analysis training.
5. Rest assured, you are automatically part of the new program and software delivery model.
6. Regarding NT8 is in beta, and once we open the room, we will have our programming team switch gears and pick up where they left off.
7. Finally, I believe in rewarding loyalty. As an added gift, we are giving you licenses to our entire product line. You can look forward to more details as we roll out the program.
Moving forward, please allow my team and me to tie up loose ends so that when we roll this out, it surpasses your expectations. In the interim, we appreciate your patience and understanding. It's important to us to make this a memorable experience. Stay tuned!

Our goal is to have everything ready by early October, at the latest. In the meantime, please feel free to email us with questions as we are glad to elaborate on specifics.

I look forward to serving you alongside our new GM/GZT Team.






Happy Trading!

Sean Kozak
CEO/Founder
Golden Zone Trading Inc.
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Dear ,

I'm delighted to write this email as we are just around the corner from opening the doors back up for the new and revamped (Mastery Program). The program has been reconfigured under the new name - “Online Futures Training Program.”

We have had several emails coming in after I addressed the public a few weeks ago and I have so much to share with all of you. First, I want to thank all of you for your kind words of encouragement and blessings. I'm grateful for your loyal business and support.

Secondly, I have hired an entirely new team to run GZT. The new team will allow for a more secure organisation powered by a dynamic environment of seasoned professionals. Once we open the doors up for our education, I will introduce them accordingly.

As for what to expect with regards to our on-going services, please see the notes below:
1. We are rolling out a whole new website with a new members area and training videos.
2. I have hired an expert trader and GZT customer who is well versed in our products to run the live training room full-time!
3. We will resume education lessons on Tuesdays and have live application classes Wednesdays and Thursdays.
4. In our on-going quest to deliver valuable education to our members, will we demonstrate new and diverse methods for using our tools. There will be less emphasis on trading signals and more focus on trading techniques, software use, and market analysis training.
5. Rest assured, you are automatically part of the new program and software delivery model.
6. Regarding NT8 is in beta, and once we open the room, we will have our programming team switch gears and pick up where they left off.
7. Finally, I believe in rewarding loyalty. As an added gift, we are giving you licenses to our entire product line. You can look forward to more details as we roll out the program.
Moving forward, please allow my team and me to tie up loose ends so that when we roll this out, it surpasses your expectations. In the interim, we appreciate your patience and understanding. It's important to us to make this a memorable experience. Stay tuned!

Our goal is to have everything ready by early October, at the latest. In the meantime, please feel free to email us with questions as we are glad to elaborate on specifics.

I look forward to serving you alongside our new GM/GZT Team.






Happy Trading!

Sean Kozak
CEO/Founder
Golden Zone Trading Inc.
support@goldenzonetrading.com

Reads to me like a BAD JOKE. Rebrand and carry on lying and stealing. Once a scammer always a scammer. PERIOD.

Is he going to show fictitious live trades, reports, journals. This guy is the bottom of the barrel.

". Finally, I believe in rewarding loyalty. As an added gift, we are giving you licenses to our entire product line. You can look forward to more details as we roll out the program.
Moving forward, please allow my team and me to tie up loose ends so that when we roll this out, it surpasses your expectations. In the interim, we appreciate your patience and understanding. It's important to us to make this a memorable experience. Stay tuned"
SEAN, You should take your own advice before feeding everyone your BULSHIT.

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Dear ,

I'm delighted to write this email as we are just around the corner from opening the doors back up for the new and revamped (Mastery Program). The program has been reconfigured under the new name - “Online Futures Training Program.”

We have had several emails coming in after I addressed the public a few weeks ago and I have so much to share with all of you. First, I want to thank all of you for your kind words of encouragement and blessings. I'm grateful for your loyal business and support.

Secondly, I have hired an entirely new team to run GZT. The new team will allow for a more secure organisation powered by a dynamic environment of seasoned professionals. Once we open the doors up for our education, I will introduce them accordingly.

As for what to expect with regards to our on-going services, please see the notes below:
1. We are rolling out a whole new website with a new members area and training videos.
2. I have hired an expert trader and GZT customer who is well versed in our products to run the live training room full-time!
3. We will resume education lessons on Tuesdays and have live application classes Wednesdays and Thursdays.
4. In our on-going quest to deliver valuable education to our members, will we demonstrate new and diverse methods for using our tools. There will be less emphasis on trading signals and more focus on trading techniques, software use, and market analysis training.
5. Rest assured, you are automatically part of the new program and software delivery model.
6. Regarding NT8 is in beta, and once we open the room, we will have our programming team switch gears and pick up where they left off.
7. Finally, I believe in rewarding loyalty. As an added gift, we are giving you licenses to our entire product line. You can look forward to more details as we roll out the program.
Moving forward, please allow my team and me to tie up loose ends so that when we roll this out, it surpasses your expectations. In the interim, we appreciate your patience and understanding. It's important to us to make this a memorable experience. Stay tuned!

Our goal is to have everything ready by early October, at the latest. In the meantime, please feel free to email us with questions as we are glad to elaborate on specifics.

I look forward to serving you alongside our new GM/GZT Team.






Happy Trading!

Sean Kozak
CEO/Founder
Golden Zone Trading Inc.
support@goldenzonetrading.com

Round 2. See how many people he knocks out this time. Or perhaps he will knock himself out with an overdose.

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Round 2. See how many people he knocks out this time. Or perhaps he will knock himself out with an overdose.

If everyone here would email or contact SharkIndicators and complain about this scammer they may pull his bloodhound partnership which would be huge considering BH is one of the few programs worth a salt. Let them know they promote him and I believe he used to work for SharkInd

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" I also wish to thank those from RJ5 Group and SharkIndicators, the team at GTZ, as well as others who did everything they could to hold things together during my absence"

What he is really saying is I'd like to thank everyone for keeping my scam going and covering up for me.


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I think Sean meant well and spent a lot of time developing his system and thought like any newbie he would just jump into the market and make millions. However, he is new and has not gone through his learning curve. You can tell in his training room when he started losing his butt he was scrapping for anything to help confirm Trades. Last I saw he was using and introduced Order Flow Candles to try make better trades but was still losing. Then he tried to unofficially add chart patterns, Gartley patterns, market profile levels, anything he could all in one session. At the point in time when I was watching, not one of theses additional tools was part of his official GZT system. He seemed like he was fretting and scrapping for anything for confirmation so he would not lose. But he kept losing. Due to his inexperience with all of those tools it obviously did not help the situation and just showed the inadequacy of his system at that point and his inexperience. He is taking all of his customers along on HIS expensive learning journey. I would stay away from this offer if anyone is considering.

It especially annoyed me when he would say, stop crying about your losses and spilt milk. You don't see me crying. I just accept and move on, it's part of trading. He was trading in SIM. Of course he was not upset.

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@ CH12456,

Great post. He defiantly was panic trading. I wrote to him about it and mentioned all the indicators he was trying to use at the same time.

All Kozak could see was money coming in to support his drug habit and new home with jetty and boat. You two can get all this if you you follow my trading method...cough,cough. As you say he is an inexperienced trader selling an unproven system covered up by false trading journal entries, lies about N7 freezing, and lies about his ability, qualifications, and where he was taught to trade.When in actual FACT he was a door to door salesman selling lawn care products. Everything about GZT and Sean Kozak is a big fat lie.

His new company is https://learn.nstradingacademy.com/

If you use a terror alert warning as critical not to go near https://learn.nstradingacademy.com/, GZT and KOZAK. Your warning for IGZ, GZT and KOZAK, you would need use Extreme Critical Imminent fraud and rip-off about to happen. STAY AWAY. Hide your wallet and children's saving bank.

Or should it be https://burn.goldenzonetrading.com

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@ CH12456,

Great post. He defiantly was panic trading. I wrote to him about it and mentioned all the indicators he was trying to use at the same time.

All Kozak could see was money coming in to support his drug habit and new home with jetty and boat. You two can get all this if you you follow my trading method...cough,cough. As you say he is an inexperienced trader selling an unproven system covered up by false trading journal entries, lies about N7 freezing, and lies about his ability, qualifications, and where he was taught to trade.When in actual FACT he was a door to door salesman selling lawn care products. Everything about GZT and Sean Kozak is a big fat lie.

His new company is https://learn.nstradingacademy.com/

If you use a terror alert warning as critical not to go near https://learn.nstradingacademy.com/, GZT and KOZAK. Your warning for IGZ, GZT and KOZAK, you would need use Extreme Critical Imminent fraud and rip-off about to happen. STAY AWAY. Hide your wallet and children's saving bank.

Or should it be https://burn.goldenzonetrading.com

Like said everyone here should email a complaint to Bloodhound/Shark Indicators that should do the trick

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Like said everyone here should email a complaint to Bloodhound/Shark Indicators that should do the trick

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I think that's been done. Apparently, Shark doesn't want anything to do with GZT. Time will tell.

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Received another email back up selling again

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So own up. Who's bought the new Waves indicator?

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So own up. Who's bought the new Waves indicator?

More importantly, what do you guys think? I tuned him out after about 30 minutes. I didn't see any trading going on.

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More importantly, what do you guys think? I tuned him out after about 30 minutes. I didn't see any trading going on.

At least you bothered wasting 30 minutes of your life. I didn't even bother registering as I'm not interested in the new SW. I noticed SK sent out an email today to extend the 'offer'. *yawn*
Additionally, I don't bother going to these type of webinars anymore where vendors pick out data to suit their BS indicators.

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