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Experiences with Collective2

Hi Everyone,
Naturally I am now curious to hear about your good and bad experiences using Collective2, as vendors and as customers. I think I found maybe two or three profitable strats in the population I sorted and the rest were scary at best.

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for my first idea, c2 is a kind of a playground for sys-freaks + sys-developer-beginner + trader who think about playing bigger one day.

the one who are succesful with their stuff playing there a bit move forward to some more seriously / bigger places and/or create their own funds / managed accounts.

but nothing to say against such a not too expencive place as a playing / testing-area to make open trackrecords + stuff to see how all that works.

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Interesting. Thanks Max. You mean there are better places than C2? Do you have links to other sites? Or do you just mean those that create their own funds?

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have a look and compare the c2-offers to this stuff -
thats why i think in the way i wrote above.

here the verdor-trader can really earn something - thats the more professional place :

iE :
3-month fee for subscribers : 1000 to 7.000 $$ + more
minimum accountsize : up to 200k $$

The MiniAnalyst.com

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200K? Oh I got that.

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At C2, I sorted the group by the guys who don't have over a 3% drawdown and had over 1000 trades. Those guys had some pretty interesting things going on. I then added a sharpe ratio greater than 1 (I looked this up on Wiki and I don't fully understand its relevance). It seemed there were two guys on there if I remember that were the only guys that didn't have more than 2 losing days. They do about $100 a day if I remember correctly. I am soo ok with that. But I don't know if it's legit.

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At C2, I sorted the group by the guys who don't have over a 3% drawdown and had over 1000 trades. Those guys had some pretty interesting things going on. I then added a sharpe ratio greater than 1 (I looked this up on Wiki and I don't fully understand its relevance). It seemed there were two guys on there if I remember that were the only guys that didn't have more than 2 losing days. They do about $100 a day if I remember correctly. I am soo ok with that. But I don't know if it's legit.

In the absence of certified audits by reputable accountants, C2 is a decent choice to evaluate systems for sale.

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In the absence of certified audits by reputable accountants, C2 is a decent choice to evaluate systems for sale.

As an accountant by profession, I am really not sure how to take that comment

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As an accountant by profession, I am really not sure how to take that comment

Given all the screwups by top tier firms, I understand.

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