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Hi TT, Yes kam from L2ST uses volume at price with in the foot print to confirm all his trades, The way in which Kam uses order flow with in the foot print or ladder as simon calls it way beyond what simon is teaching and yes kam has room for members where he trades and call his own trades out in real time.

Unlike simon who is using the channel which is effectively a line drawn from the high and low of 20 bars back Kam uses the actual thing that drives the market to dictate his trades levels and set ups, buy looking at value and supply and demand Kam has better location and far better risk to reward, unlike simon who seems to take a tick or two here and there and seems to want to get out of a trade the moment he has got in with out letting the trades work.



Again just my opinions based on what has actually help me progress as a trader.


If I new then what I new now I would only purchase L2ST course.
OFA's course would come second and I would stay clear of futuresfx.

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Hi Daza,

Thanks for the review. What about FuturesFX? I think the key element of FuturesFX is the usage of the volume ladder as a confirmation tool... Would you agree? Is FuturesFX applying a concept that is also taught by L2ST? Concerning FuturesFX, I must say that it impresses me that he is using the concept in real time. Does L2ST do the same thing? FuturesFX uses the Volume Ladder for clapping... Correct?

Thanks again, Daza!

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contradictions

Make up your mind,daza! Have you been a member of Simons room or not??? You say in this post you were;
In an earlier post you said you had a friend who knew someones uncle that said his grandfather mite have been a member ( or something like that) :0 Make up your mind it may help in adding some credibility to your posts in the future ?????? Some serious doubt there, daza.


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Hi TT, Yes kam from L2ST uses volume at price with in the foot print to confirm all his trades, The way in which Kam uses order flow with in the foot print or ladder as simon calls it way beyond what simon is teaching and yes kam has room for members where he trades and call his own trades out in real time.

Unlike simon who is using the channel which is effectively a line drawn from the high and low of 20 bars back Kam uses the actual thing that drives the market to dictate his trades levels and set ups, buy looking at value and supply and demand Kam has better location and far better risk to reward, unlike simon who seems to take a tick or two here and there and seems to want to get out of a trade the moment he has got in with out letting the trades work.


Again just my opinions based on what has actually help me progress as a trader.


If I new then what I new now I would only purchase L2ST course.
OFA's course would come second and I would stay clear of futuresfx.

Daza


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Get facts right Thom or is that simon? I said I had the course as friend gave it to me and I do get simons free vides that he sends out in his sales emails so need to be in room as I can see how bad he/you trade in those.

Again a member asked for opinions and thats all i have done.

Daza




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Make up your mind,daza! Have you been a member of Simons room or not??? You say in this post you were;
In an earlier post you said you had a friend who knew someones uncle that said his grandfather mite have been a member ( or something like that) :0 Make up your mind it may help in adding some credibility to your posts in the future ?????? Some serious doubt there, daza.


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hi Daza


You said Kam has a room where he calls out trades is this separate from the regular L2ST room


Thanks

mark

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I was also interested in members comments who have signed up for futuresfx. I was seriously considering it and welcomed the comments here. However, I found nqcruiser's reversal of his opinion quite odd. If he had been with futuresfx since 2007, what happened to change his mind from great to 'all hype'? So I am left with an odd collection of negatives and positives without much analysis of what Simon is actually doing. Daza's comments about the Donchian and how to read the tape make sense. I was hoping there was more to Simon's approach than that. But couldn't quite tell if daza had been a member of futuresfx or not.

I was also considering L2ST, but after reviewing some of the promo videos that are supposedly updates for the daily trading, I became skeptical. Kam's trade successes for the day are unbelievable (literally). He describes entry and exit point accuracy that would warrant a 10 figure signing bonus at any hedge fund. If L2ST is legit, his daily trade update videos sabotage his credibility in my view.

By the way, I was just getting ready to join Simon's program a week or so ago but have noticed a lack of feedback from emails I sent him and was wondering if something has happened to his operation?

thanks for all the comments.

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Re

Many thanks to Daza and all the others who commented on Simon's. Is Simon's method perfect? I do not know.... However, what counts is that he is trading infront of you...

How can you use the Volume Ladder for confirmation actually?

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Hi Mark, not sure all I know is the room I go in as a course member he is calling trades, he does actually talk a lot but I find that refreshing as he is describing trades and set ups. but to be honest I have not been in for a while as any trading room just distracts me.
Not sure if he has any other rooms, say for free trails.
He does show his DOM as well like simon from Futuresfx so nothing new there.
I must admit I to was sceptical about Kam and back in 2008 I was in his trail rtoom and decided not to take course at that time due to the fact that it all looked to good.
But after speaking to him and some recommendations from other groups I took a leap of faith and joined this year and glad I did, best money I have spent in the money grabbing business.

Again only my opinion based on my own experiences and this is by now way a reason to purchase there course this may not suit every one and you should do your homework before spending any cash.

Daza




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hi Daza


You said Kam has a room where he calls out trades is this separate from the regular L2ST room


Thanks

mark


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Hi Mark, not sure all I know is the room I go in as a course member he is calling trades, he does actually talk a lot but I find that refreshing as he is describing trades and set ups. but to be honest I have not been in for a while as any trading room just distracts me.
Not sure if he has any other rooms, say for free trails.
He does show his DOM as well like simon from Futuresfx so nothing new there.
I must admit I to was sceptical about Kam and back in 2008 I was in his trail rtoom and decided not to take course at that time due to the fact that it all looked to good.
But after speaking to him and some recommendations from other groups I took a leap of faith and joined this year and glad I did, best money I have spent in the money grabbing business.

Again only my opinion based on my own experiences and this is by now way a reason to purchase there course this may not suit every one and you should do your homework before spending any cash.

Daza

Hi Daza,

I have to make a choice between L2ST and FuturesFX. Probably I will take both. I have a question concerning L2ST. When Kam traded the ES, how many ticks did it go against him? Does Kam use the Ladder differently than Simon? Simon has a high win rate, which is quite amazing...

Thanks!

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A friend did a trial with L2ST room. They stopped doing regular trials awhile ago but if you contact them I think they will give you couple of days trial.


mark


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Hi TT, every trade is different and is based on its own merits so stops are not always the same, plus by using the order flow he can get out of bad trades before ever hitting his stop.

Daza



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Hi Daza,

I have to make a choice between L2ST and FuturesFX. Probably I will take both. I have a question concerning L2ST. When Kam traded the ES, how many ticks did it go against him? Does Kam use the Ladder differently than Simon? Simon has a high win rate, which is quite amazing...

Thanks!


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