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Hi guys,

It is my pleasure to welcome back Peter Davies @DionysusToast for a webinar on Thursday, July 17th @ 4:30 PM Eastern US.

The webinar will discuss "Trading the Chop" and will be based on the Jigsaw Tools.

Bullet points include:

- Introduction to the tools we'll be looking at
- Benefits of trading the summer chop
- Range Trading vs Trend Trading
- Trade locations
- Refining Entries
- Managing the trades

You can find Jigsaw's website here:
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Jigsaw Trading is a futures.io (formerly BMT) site sponsor. This webinar will be promotional, Pete will be using the Jigsaw tools during the presentation.

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Jigsaw Trading is a futures.io (formerly BMT) site sponsor. This webinar will be promotional, Pete will be using the Jigsaw tools during the presentation.

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How come Pete is not registered as a vendor? Based on my understanding he should be but i am not entirely sure.

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How come Pete is not registered as a vendor? Based on my understanding he should be but i am not entirely sure.

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Has been covered elsewhere on the forum. Due to a forum bug, Market Wizards don't have the vendor label (it is a bug). As mentioned in the futures.io (formerly BMT) 5.0 thread, I am not doing any further development on vBulletin and won't be fixing any bugs or doing enhancements, all work is going toward futures.io (formerly BMT) 5.0.

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What about Ninja Trader and Optimus? They are listed as elite members not vendors? (If this has been answered as well, I apologize. Just noticed and thought it was odd).

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What about Ninja Trader and Optimus? They are listed as elite members not vendors? (If this has been answered as well, I apologize. Just noticed and thought it was odd).

Both have been Market Wizards which erased the vendor info.

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What about Ninja Trader and Optimus?

I updated their profiles again just now, so long as they don't become Market Wizards again the info will stick.

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I updated their profiles again just now, so long as they don't become Market Wizards again the info will stick.

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I didn't want anyone to think there was favoritism. Vendor is vendor. I am thankful for the way you run the forum.

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Reminder for tomorrow's webinar.

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Hi,
thank you mike for setting that up.
unfortunately im not gonna make it to be here this evening, will it be recorded?

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thank you mike for setting that up.
unfortunately im not gonna make it to be here this evening, will it be recorded?

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Webinar recording:



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Hi Pete,

Can we have a link to JTLevels please (free plugin for Ninja you showed during the webinar).

I searched futures.io (formerly BMT) but could not find it.

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JTLevels indicator is attached as well as a PDF document containing the Presentation slides.

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JTLevels indicator is attached as well as a PDF document containing the Presentation slides.

for easier viewing (labels) and more accuracy (don't think jt levels always plot correctly), I would strongly recommend @Fat Tails indicators for those levels.

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What did everyone think of the webinar?

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I think @DionysusToast did good job for explaining how this summertime choppy can be dealt with.

I took couple cosmetic tips how to make my Jigsawtools easier to read. But the more important part how much this will have impact in my trading will take some time and practice. There were some great pointers about how to enter in to the slow markets (when to wait with limit order and when to be more aggressive)

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Thanks to everyone involved with the organizing and delivery of the webinar.
Here are some of the lessons from it for new to intermediate traders, in my humble opinion:
1. Unless you are placing a large block order for a passive wealth mgmt. firm, your internal dialogue for a trade should take about 5 seconds once you have done your homework. I have seen great bottom-up fundamental analysis done at institutions with less numbers than what was used for the two trades in the webinar. Peter is extraordinary in this regard but others can't/wont pull it off.
2. Never approach a market with preconceived notions, regardless of the week or month. July continues to deliver huge trend days. Even the day after the July 4th holiday was NOT a range day. See Exhibit A and B, for ES and NQ respectively. For many old school Fib/Gartley traders, it was more like a trend day with a reversal setup before the market open.
3. Understand that orderbook scalping is going out of style, but not without reason. The edge continues to dwindle for obvious reasons like spoofing, rapid cancellations of resting orders when needed the most, faster nonhuman participants, CME data changes etc. Its less and less requested at brokerage houses that provide their own platforms.
4. Do not ascribe more meaning to volume profile, thatís barely past the first 10 minutes of trading, than it deserves.
5. Finally, as a general note, learn market context and market geometry. Just as there are universal laws that govern nature and our lives, there are universal patterns through which a market makes its intentions known to those trained to see. Its called the-often-used but-rarely-understood price action.
- There is a reason that charts of Japanese rice from a century ago do not look much different than a SanDisk chart today. A presence of an arbitrary number of contracts on the T&S window does not constitute price action. There is little universality to this method and therefore difficult to apply elsewhere unless the market is 'thick'. A follow through from a break of support level that is 5 minutes old vs. one that is a month old would be different and predictable. In other words, do not ignore TIME and universality of price action. Peter does this well but I feel that that a naked chart with good SRs would accomplish the same.

Iíd like to thank Peter again for his time.

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Another excellent webinar from Jigsaw Pete.

Always very informative and well presented.

Focus points for me would be the importance of the current market context. Always important to trade with regard to the current volume and volatility of whatever market you are trading.

Greg

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for easier viewing (labels) and more accuracy (don't think jt levels always plot correctly), I would strongly recommend @Fat Tails indicators for those levels.

but you'll need to create a custom session template

Do you mean this one by Fat Tails? https://futures.io/local_links_search.php?action=show&sort=&search=levels&literal=1&desc=1&keys=1&pp=40&page=2

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I used 3 different indicators to accomplish this:

- for yesterday's close, high and low = anaPivotsDailyV42



- for overnight session high, low and regular (rth) open = anaIBRangeBandsV42(MTF)



- for Daily (eth) open = anaCurrentDayOHLV42




there're other indicators that you can use to get the same result. Maybe @Fat Tails can give us his recommendation

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