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Right Line Trading keeps you on the Right Side of the trade.

I'm starting up my day trading endeavors again and feel Mark Sachs, from Right Line Trading, is the man that will
guide me through all the shortcomings with my personal trading demons in getting where I need to be as a
professional day trader.

I welcome any/all feedback on what you think.

I will be regularly posting charts and TopStep Combine Summary results using this method.

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Has an Elliott Wave element to it. It's a market structure setup based on Order Flow Asymmetry.

The 'A' is a sign of a beginning of a trend with starting off with 2 consecutive matching Green/Red candles.

The 'B' is always going to be colored purple. This is the turning point bar
where buyers/sellers try to turn the market/trend.

The 'C' is the engulfing candle that states the trend is still in tact.
The engulfment is based on candle body only, not wick.

This setup is best taken on first instance in an up/down trend.

This trade was from 11/27/2013 and went for a total of 14tix.
In this case you would have achieved T1 of 6tix, T2 of 10tix, T3 4tix for a total of 20tix or $200 on 3contracts.

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Noted as an Arrow symbol on chart.
Signifies a minor retracement in an existing trend, usually to the 15MA.
Again classified as a continuation trade in an existing trend.
Want 15MA to stay color of trade. Green for long / Red for short.

On the 3LineIndicator below chart you have OrderFlow, Stochastic, Momentum from top to bottom.
Stochastic is ok to be off due to the retracement. As long as OrderFlow and Momentum are in direction of trade is all we need.

We look to take the first 2 instances for they are your best chances of profitability with trend.

This trade was from 11/25/2013 and went for a total of 36tix. Classic Pull Back to the 50MA and was rejected.
In this case you would have achieved T1 of 6tix, T2 of 10tix, T3 26tix for a total of 42tix or $420 on 3contracts.

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Noted as an '+' symbol on chart. Mark calls it an 'X' as well.

We look for price to stall and/or go sideways towards / into the 15MA. Never chase price
for a trade, let it come back towards the 15MA. Sort of a mini sideways channel.

This trade was from 11/25/2013 and went for a total of 19tix. Price stalled into the 15MA.
The 15/50MA's stayed Green along with the Order Flow and Momentum on 3LineIndicator below.
In addition to the Momentum indicator, you also have an ABC structure as well. An added bonus!

In this case you would have achieved T1 of 6tix, T2 of 10tix, T3 9tix for a total of 25tix or $250 on 3contracts.

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Trades are best taken with a price move through the 50MA.
So you want at least a 2/3rds piercing of the 50MA to take trade.
The candle body is outlined, yellow for short + blue for long, to show
agreement on all 3 indicators on the 3LineIndicator.

These usually occur on those fast price action transitions from long to short or
short to long cycles. I find this an easier way to engage a trade rather than
sitting on hands and waiting for a pull back / regression trade to the 15MA

This trade was from 11/26/2013 and went for a total of 19tix.
The 50MA was sloping down most of morning session. There was a brief price move above the 50MA
but didn't last long and came back down in the direction of the trend. This created a nice 3LB setup,
Order Flow, Stochastics and Momentum were in agreement and pulled the trigger!

The move went for 19tix.
In this case you would have achieved T1 of 6tix, T2 of 10tix, T3 9tix for a total of 25tix or $250 on 3contracts.

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Hi Mike,
Thanks for sharing your review of right line trading. I am looking into their method. seems to be very clear with little ambiguity. Would you mind sharing with at I have noticed us how this will help your trading demons ?

What I have noticed is that the entry setup is very clear, entry price is marked, the stop loss is clearly defined, profit targets are predetermined as well. The use of multiple time frames all plotted on one chart seems to be a great feature. Are all these issues you were looking for in a trading method ?

For me just getting in at the correct time when a pullback is completed seems to be a challange.

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Hi Mike,
Thanks for sharing your review of right line trading. I am looking into their method. seems to be very clear with little ambiguity. Would you mind sharing with at I have noticed us how this will help your trading demons ?

What I have noticed is that the entry setup is very clear, entry price is marked, the stop loss is clearly defined, profit targets are predetermined as well. The use of multiple time frames all plotted on one chart seems to be a great feature. Are all these issues you were looking for in a trading method ?

For me just getting in at the correct time when a pullback is completed seems to be a challenge.

Thx Avall for your question....
Again trading is at least 80% psychological and if you're not mentally strong and have cemented your belief
in what ever trading system you're trading, you will falter and have mixed results.
I can show you 3 bad trades I took on Wednesday, 11/27/2013, that were ALL counter trend to the 50MA on CL.
Thinking, 'Hey.. this can't continue to keep going down... It's due for a rebound!!'
Well the results was not good and you need to trade what you see, not how you feel.
Right Line should have kept me out, but I felt compelled to still trade. Over time this bad habit will be boiled out of my system thanks to Mark's mentor ship with the program.

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Hello Mike,


I will state my opinions and views on this system which I previously discussed with you --------------

1. Risk to Reward is not healthy.

2. Order Flow is the same no matter what timeframe chart you are looking at, dispelling the myth that it can be calculated or compared. Needless to say one cannot find dark pools or spoofing with any system.


3. If you can see an ABC pattern with an engulfing candle there is no reason whatsoever to have your entry pinpointed -
there is also a free indicator here on big mikes that clearly draws the ABC's called Price Action --- there is also a regression indicator.

4. What is not taught here and in most rooms is good money management principles. I cannot stress this enough, the allure of being a day trader with a modest account is not realistic. Most brokers and room moderators do not teach this. Instead the brokers offer low margins, thats the lure - take the bait. Trade Crude with a small account and you will get burned. Especially when your Risk to Reward is less then 1 to 1.

I know you are enthusiastic about this methodology, however I see some serious flaws.

Good Luck in your endevours.

Maria

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I am unwilling to start a crazy debate on this --However ---

I do feel that my observations are valid ---

For instance to help the community --

There was a 90 plus move on CL on Wends I did take a screenshot however cannot seem to upload it ---

On the "RIGHT LINE" 300 was risked to make 260 --------------

I risked 12 Tiks to Make 55 ------------------ using Ultimate Tcik Bars and My Scalper to get me in with Sceeto as my guide to keep me in ---------------

Thats money management and I even left some on the table.

If anyone wants to find out more about my methods they can email me directly as I do not check this forum often enough.

maria.roussos@gmail.com

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Mike,
I believe Maria means 30 ticks ($300) for 3 contracts to start with and your profits were $200. I think this is how she came up the R:R ration.
Amin

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Mike,
I believe Maria means 30 ticks ($300) for 3 contracts to start with and your profits were $200. I think this is how she came up the R:R ration.
Amin

Thx Amin for the clarification.
Again is 10tix initial risk too unreasonable to ask for on trading CL?
I don't think so.
How does she know of $200 profit on 3 contracts?
Even if it were the case, these are hi probability setups.
I'll gladly make $200 a trade consistently. The price action would have to have gone at least 20tix or so.
T1 = 6tix
T2 = 10tix
T3 = 10tix trailing stop
I will look back to Wed and try to post pic of this CL move

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Mike thats exactly how I came up with 300 dollars

Furthermore I am not attacking anything, I am just stating the obvious.

I am sorry that you are so offended by my observations.

You made this attack personal, I however will not do that !!

I am the first one to tweek my methods share the tweeks with my trading friends, advise them of better charts timeframes indicators and methodology. So, no its not my way or the high way. Nor is my mind twisted in any way-

Again, I am not knocking the system or you for that matter -

I wish you the best of luck really -

Maria

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Yes Wednesday had a large CL move.
I did a measured tix move of approx. 128 tix from A to A or 93.30 to 92.04.
Keep in mind I trade from 7:30am. The peak of the sell off started late on previous session.
I will note the probable setups that could have been taken if you up during the Euro session 3am

1st setup: No Trade. Too many ABC's. Too much price stall. Green Stochastic on 3LineIndicator.
Pass on other setups with Yellow 15MA

2nd setup: ABC after stall. Goes 18tix. Profit for 3 contracts $180.

3rd setup: ABC after stall. Goes 11tix. Profit for 3 contracts $160.

4th setup: Bunch of no trades. Again looking for hi probability setups.

5th setup: ABC after stall period. Resumed downtrend. Goes 20tix.. Profit for 3 contracts $200
See chart below....

So after 3 conservative setups... total profit $540.

Interesting how the money wasn't made with the BIG move. Let price settle down and take the core trades.
ABC was the one today with the regressive/pull back towards the 15MA



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It was an opinion Mike an observation -----------------------

Maybe I should have said for "ME" a less then 1 to 1 R to R is not good enough ---

Anyway, unfortunately this has escalated to a very unfriendly tone. Again, I wish you the best of luck-------------

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Maria

I must have overlooked your original statement that RLT has serious flaws.
Those are your words. I'm not going to let you or anyone get away with that without any backup.

You also must have missed my comment on I respect you as an individual and trader... hmmmm last I knew that's not a personal attack at all.

I will show high probability setups that someone could have taken using RLT method on Wednesday's CL chart.
These setups will fit in the opening trade descriptions in this thread. That's the reason for those screen shots. This sets the stage on what qualified trades look like.

I will post results that one could have made trading 3 contracts and we'll see how flawed RLT rally is...

I myself would luv to see your results as well on 11/27/2013 and the trade setup that made you take that entry.
I'm not making this about how much money I can make, but you apparently are.
I've said before, everyone is different on Risk:Reward. I'm not here saying this is the BEST system on earth.
What I'm saying it's helping me moving forward to being a professional day trader
Simple as that.


Mike S.

This method will never lead you to a professional trader, sorry

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This method will never lead you to a professional trader, sorry

Thanks Supermht for the kind encouraging words.

Here's 5th trade setup. Done for day closing in on 11:30am.


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I apologize for certain things being stated on here.
I've requested to Big Mike to assist me in creating a thread for my trading journal.
I am inexperienced with this as you can see.

I'm really excited with my trading thus far and want a place to share with others who might benefit.

That's my sole intention.

I will refrain from negative banter and let my chart results speak for themselves.

Hopefully I/we can move forward from this and make it more positive.

Here's new thread link for my trading:


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I have not used this vendors product I am just adding a bit more information for others who may come across this information.

I came across this thread alst night and noticed the setups that MIke S. had posted. A combination of his enthusiasm and the objectivity of the trade setups lead me to look into this outfit a bit more.

For those interested in learning a little more about the offerings of RLT I suggest visiting their site and examining the Partner Video they did with Ninja Trader, as well as his market recaps of trades he ahs taken in his trading room. There is a decent amount of information presented and Mark Sachs seems sincere enough to answer any questions asked.

After watching the video in its entirety I did a little more research. While RTL is in fact new on the scene in regards to being a vendor (as of ~Sept/Oct 2013) Mark Sachs had originally tried to get this off the ground back in 2006. With the exception of recorded webinars with other vendors as sponsors, I found very little information about RTL or Mark Sachs trading background.

With that being said, everyone has to start somewhere.

I believe Mark has put together some things and findings that has worked well for himself personally and is now turning it into a business model to teach others what he has put together. This is no different than any other vendor out there who has something of quality to share.

Hopefully this post will enlighten people to do their own due dilligence in researching a vendor or product in their quest for additional trading education.

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Jester,
You are right. The thing that drew my attention is the OBJECTIVITY of the set up. Also the 15 period MA that becomes flat in congestion areas is very helpful.
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Hi Mike,

no Trads in December?

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Hi Mike,

no Trads in December?

Thomas

See post #19.
I have started a personal trade journal.
This thread is not appropriate for those postings.



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I would say to stay away from RTL.

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I would say to stay away from RTL.

Just curious what you base your comments on/ Did you actually take a trial and see the trade log called in real time/ Often here there is a lot of bashing going on without any direct contact and trial with the vendor in question. that being said I did take a trial and felt the trade log posted was a fair representative of the the live calls in real time. all the calls I saw were before the trade set up although you would of had to be prepared with waiting orders to be made quickly. Now they have direct order software which syncs RL trades with your computer which I have no direct experience with. Mark seemed to be one of the few straight shooters Ive seen in regard to his trading log in real time. The commissions will be very high trading 4 contracts per signal but overall it is a profitable system from my view. You might miss some trades if you try to take all the calls manually. If you had actual live experience with the posted trades it would be interesting to hear your feedback.

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I would say to stay away from RTL.

Please respond as to why we must stay away from Right Line trading?
I took their trial and found Prof Mark Sachs to be very honest and truthful in
displaying trade results almost daily with a Video on You Tube..
I've been following Mark for a few months and I don't see any reason to stay
away from RLT. Please explain????

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Has anyone been using their system, modified Laguerre/order flow. If so how has it been working.

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Please respond as to why we must stay away from Right Line trading?
I took their trial and found Prof Mark Sachs to be very honest and truthful in
displaying trade results almost daily with a Video on You Tube..
I've been following Mark for a few months and I don't see any reason to stay
away from RLT. Please explain????


RLT and the host has been exposed. The vendor even sent Emmett a pic of a fake phd and has had
a longer history of fraudulent shenanigans and some legal penalties. After the updated review, newer
clients complained he returned to hiding losers in the trading room records after the scrutiny period was over.

https://www.tradingschools.org/rightline-trading-update/
https://www.tradingschools.org/reviews/rightline-trading/ (original review)

"mroussos" also had her own exposé: https://www.tradingschools.org/reviews/trade-order-flow-and-trade-the-eminis/

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