Keyboard Trader (www.keyboardtrader.com) - futures io
futures io



Keyboard Trader (www.keyboardtrader.com)


Discussion in Trading Reviews and Vendors

Updated
      Top Posters
    1. looks_one Big Mike with 6 posts (1 thanks)
    2. looks_two iq200 with 3 posts (1 thanks)
    3. looks_3 matthew28 with 2 posts (1 thanks)
    4. looks_4 Fritzk with 2 posts (1 thanks)
      Best Posters
    1. looks_one Fritzk with 0.5 thanks per post
    2. looks_two matthew28 with 0.5 thanks per post
    3. looks_3 iq200 with 0.3 thanks per post
    4. looks_4 Big Mike with 0.2 thanks per post
    1. trending_up 5,749 views
    2. thumb_up 4 thanks given
    3. group 8 followers
    1. forum 19 posts
    2. attach_file 0 attachments




Welcome to futures io: the largest futures trading community on the planet, with well over 125,000 members
  • Genuine reviews from real traders, not fake reviews from stealth vendors
  • Quality education from leading professional traders
  • We are a friendly, helpful, and positive community
  • We do not tolerate rude behavior, trolling, or vendors advertising in posts
  • We are here to help, just let us know what you need
You'll need to register in order to view the content of the threads and start contributing to our community.  It's free and simple.

-- Big Mike, Site Administrator

(If you already have an account, login at the top of the page)

 
Search this Thread
 

Keyboard Trader (www.keyboardtrader.com)

(login for full post details)
  #1 (permalink)
 Big Mike 
Site Administrator
Swing Trader
Data Scientist & DevOps
Manta, Ecuador
 
Experience: Advanced
Platform: Custom solution
Trading: Futures & Crypto
 
Big Mike's Avatar
 
Posts: 50,094 since Jun 2009
Thanks: 32,558 given, 98,592 received

This thread is for members to review the products and services offered by Keyboard Trader and Adam Sheldon:

Futures Trading Software | Hotkey Trading Futures | Keyboard Trader





YouTube channel:

keyboardtrader - YouTube



Mike

We're here to help -- just ask

For the best trading education, watch our webinars
Searching for trading reviews? Review this list

Follow us on Twitter, YouTube, and Facebook

Support our community as an Elite Member:
https://futures.io/elite/

Visit other sites? Please spread the word about your experience with our community!
Follow me on Twitter Visit my futures io Trade Journal Started this thread Reply With Quote
The following user says Thank You to Big Mike for this post:

Can you help answer these questions
from other members on futures io?
need help writing easylanguage radarscreen weekly perfor …
EasyLanguage Programming
Weather services for trading NG
Trading Reviews and Vendors
How do you put a consolidation into EL?
EasyLanguage Programming
PowerLanguage: change bars types, size and number of min …
MultiCharts
Thinkorswim MACD Thinkscript
ThinkOrSwim
 
Best Threads (Most Thanked)
in the last 7 days on futures io
How much do you know about Bitcoin?
129 thanks
I finally blew up an account
37 thanks
Big Mike in Ecuador
28 thanks
EdgeProX from Edge Clear
24 thanks
The tiyfTradePlanFactory indicator
22 thanks
 
(login for full post details)
  #3 (permalink)
 hlatham 
Exeter, UK
 
Experience: Beginner
Platform: Overcharts & R Trader Pro
Broker: IB
Trading: Bund & ES
 
hlatham's Avatar
 
Posts: 55 since Sep 2013
Thanks: 21 given, 30 received


Have to say I haven't used it but from first glance at the website I'm not sure that the price justifies the small speed increase for anyone other than spread traders. Especially bearing in mind that it will take some time to get used to to obtain that speed increase.

Visit my futures io Trade Journal Reply With Quote
 
(login for full post details)
  #4 (permalink)
 Big Mike 
Site Administrator
Swing Trader
Data Scientist & DevOps
Manta, Ecuador
 
Experience: Advanced
Platform: Custom solution
Trading: Futures & Crypto
 
Big Mike's Avatar
 
Posts: 50,094 since Jun 2009
Thanks: 32,558 given, 98,592 received


hlatham View Post
Have to say I haven't used it but from first glance at the website I'm not sure that the price justifies the small speed increase for anyone other than spread traders. Especially bearing in mind that it will take some time to get used to to obtain that speed increase.

Price seems real cheap to me if you are a scalper trading a couple hundred times a day, especially multiple markets.

Sent from my LG Optimus G Pro

We're here to help -- just ask

For the best trading education, watch our webinars
Searching for trading reviews? Review this list

Follow us on Twitter, YouTube, and Facebook

Support our community as an Elite Member:
https://futures.io/elite/

Visit other sites? Please spread the word about your experience with our community!
Follow me on Twitter Visit my futures io Trade Journal Started this thread Reply With Quote
 
(login for full post details)
  #5 (permalink)
 hlatham 
Exeter, UK
 
Experience: Beginner
Platform: Overcharts & R Trader Pro
Broker: IB
Trading: Bund & ES
 
hlatham's Avatar
 
Posts: 55 since Sep 2013
Thanks: 21 given, 30 received

Yea true, I would also imagine it would be very useful if you were placing or removing spoof orders.

Visit my futures io Trade Journal Reply With Quote
 
(login for full post details)
  #6 (permalink)
 Big Mike 
Site Administrator
Swing Trader
Data Scientist & DevOps
Manta, Ecuador
 
Experience: Advanced
Platform: Custom solution
Trading: Futures & Crypto
 
Big Mike's Avatar
 
Posts: 50,094 since Jun 2009
Thanks: 32,558 given, 98,592 received

I dunno. Not a scalper or spread trader, so not for me. But curious what others have to say. Adam has also started a campaign on futures.io (formerly BMT) so is a site sponsor, I wanted to get feedback from anyone who buys the keyboard.

Sent from my LG Optimus G Pro

We're here to help -- just ask

For the best trading education, watch our webinars
Searching for trading reviews? Review this list

Follow us on Twitter, YouTube, and Facebook

Support our community as an Elite Member:
https://futures.io/elite/

Visit other sites? Please spread the word about your experience with our community!
Follow me on Twitter Visit my futures io Trade Journal Started this thread Reply With Quote
 
(login for full post details)
  #7 (permalink)
 Boomer34 
Georgia, USA
 
Experience: Advanced
Platform: TOS
Broker: TOS
Trading: SPX
 
Boomer34's Avatar
 
Posts: 164 since Mar 2011
Thanks: 74 given, 57 received

If nothing else, it looks really hip. Would love to hear from anyone who has used it...

Follow me on Twitter Reply With Quote
 
(login for full post details)
  #8 (permalink)
 Fritzk 
North America
 
Experience: None
Platform: NT
Trading: Futures
 
Fritzk's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,376 since Jan 2013
Thanks: 3,457 given, 5,064 received

That pricing is crazy expensive ....

You can do the same thing with the Logitech G510 which has 54 programmable keys. Match that with autohotkey and you can program in mouse clicks also. Roughly $100. Made for gaming therefore super durable. And you can still use the keyboard for the rest of your day.


Reply With Quote
The following user says Thank You to Fritzk for this post:
 
(login for full post details)
  #9 (permalink)
 Big Mike 
Site Administrator
Swing Trader
Data Scientist & DevOps
Manta, Ecuador
 
Experience: Advanced
Platform: Custom solution
Trading: Futures & Crypto
 
Big Mike's Avatar
 
Posts: 50,094 since Jun 2009
Thanks: 32,558 given, 98,592 received


Fritzk View Post
That pricing is crazy expensive ....

You can do the same thing with the Logitech G510 which has 54 programmable keys. Match that with autohotkey and you can program in mouse clicks also. Roughly $100. Made for gaming therefore super durable. And you can still use the keyboard for the rest of your day.


I've invited Adam to do a webinar about his product on January 28th @ 4:30 PM ET. I believe we will learn why it is not as simple as what you've stated, at least not if you want something reliable.

Mike

We're here to help -- just ask

For the best trading education, watch our webinars
Searching for trading reviews? Review this list

Follow us on Twitter, YouTube, and Facebook

Support our community as an Elite Member:
https://futures.io/elite/

Visit other sites? Please spread the word about your experience with our community!
Follow me on Twitter Visit my futures io Trade Journal Started this thread Reply With Quote
 
(login for full post details)
  #10 (permalink)
 Fritzk 
North America
 
Experience: None
Platform: NT
Trading: Futures
 
Fritzk's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,376 since Jan 2013
Thanks: 3,457 given, 5,064 received



Big Mike View Post
I've invited Adam to do a webinar about his product on January 28th @ 4:30 PM ET. I believe we will learn why it is not as simple as what you've stated, at least not if you want something reliable.

Mike

Awesome ... I will make an effort to be there.

In all fairness to them, not everybody goes out an codes their own trading platform either, but as you just experienced, it can be done.

Reply With Quote
 
(login for full post details)
  #11 (permalink)
 Big Mike 
Site Administrator
Swing Trader
Data Scientist & DevOps
Manta, Ecuador
 
Experience: Advanced
Platform: Custom solution
Trading: Futures & Crypto
 
Big Mike's Avatar
 
Posts: 50,094 since Jun 2009
Thanks: 32,558 given, 98,592 received


Fritzk View Post
Awesome ... I will make an effort to be there.

In all fairness to them, not everybody goes out an codes their own trading platform either, but as you just experienced, it can be done.

He didn't have much time to talk about his product during the webinar as you saw today. Sorry about that.

Mike

We're here to help -- just ask

For the best trading education, watch our webinars
Searching for trading reviews? Review this list

Follow us on Twitter, YouTube, and Facebook

Support our community as an Elite Member:
https://futures.io/elite/

Visit other sites? Please spread the word about your experience with our community!
Follow me on Twitter Visit my futures io Trade Journal Started this thread Reply With Quote
 
(login for full post details)
  #12 (permalink)
 Big Mike 
Site Administrator
Swing Trader
Data Scientist & DevOps
Manta, Ecuador
 
Experience: Advanced
Platform: Custom solution
Trading: Futures & Crypto
 
Big Mike's Avatar
 
Posts: 50,094 since Jun 2009
Thanks: 32,558 given, 98,592 received

Adam has a new video up about his hardware that I thought was well done:



Mike

We're here to help -- just ask

For the best trading education, watch our webinars
Searching for trading reviews? Review this list

Follow us on Twitter, YouTube, and Facebook

Support our community as an Elite Member:
https://futures.io/elite/

Visit other sites? Please spread the word about your experience with our community!
Follow me on Twitter Visit my futures io Trade Journal Started this thread Reply With Quote
 
(login for full post details)
  #13 (permalink)
 Futures Operator 
New York, NY
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: Sierra Chart, thinkorswim
Broker: Amp-Rithmic/TT, IB
Trading: CL, GC, NQ
 
Posts: 578 since Nov 2010
Thanks: 1,867 given, 251 received


Fritzk View Post
That pricing is crazy expensive ....

You can do the same thing with the Logitech G510 which has 54 programmable keys. Match that with autohotkey and you can program in mouse clicks also. Roughly $100. Made for gaming therefore super durable. And you can still use the keyboard for the rest of your day.


Has anyone done something like this in Sierrachart? How would you tie it to an individual instrument or chart window? SC supports keyboard trading shortcuts, but not specific to one window/instrument.

Follow me on Twitter Reply With Quote
 
(login for full post details)
  #14 (permalink)
 iq200 
Surrey, UK
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: Ninjatrader, Tradestation
Broker: Kinetick, InteractiveBrokers
Trading: Equities, Futures
 
Posts: 315 since Jun 2010
Thanks: 118 given, 201 received

Hi -
I'm quite interested in these keyboards and was wondering if anyone here actually use them? I'd be quite interested in your opinion/view over say redefining keyboard keys or using a programmable keypad? Is it possible to get custom keys?
Thanks,
iq

Follow me on Twitter Visit my futures io Trade Journal Reply With Quote
 
(login for full post details)
  #15 (permalink)
 Forexoil 
Bangkok thailand
 
Experience: Advanced
Platform: Multicharts, ninjatrader, tradestation, fxcm
Trading: Es forex
 
Posts: 116 since Jan 2015
Thanks: 128 given, 64 received

looks fascinating.

Reply With Quote
 
(login for full post details)
  #16 (permalink)
 matthew28 
Legendary Elite_Member
Wiltshire, United Kingdom
 
Experience: Beginner
Platform: Jigsaw daytradr
Trading: US Equity Index Futures
 
matthew28's Avatar
 
Posts: 994 since Sep 2013
Thanks: 2,506 given, 1,824 received


iq200 View Post
Hi -
I'm quite interested in these keyboards and was wondering if anyone here actually use them? I'd be quite interested in your opinion/view over say redefining keyboard keys or using a programmable keypad? Is it possible to get custom keys?
Thanks,
iq

Hi,
I have the Power1 keyboard.
I subscribed to Keyboard trader on the round turn commission package using the keyboard with the T4 platform while doing a Topstep Trader Combine. I only stayed with them for a few months as paying commissions while not earning any money was adding up. That is not a negative for the product though as Adam is very helpful. I notified him when the keyboard arrived and he did a setup and introduction section with me through my computer.
Basics first, you get a keyboard, either one of the preconfigured ones, or build your own with from the list of keys he has available. Like I said I got the Power 1 and added Buy Stop and Sell Stop keys. You then get Access IS software for programming or reprogramming the keyboard keys (key push means F4, Alt-Num Pad 1 etc); I altered mine to something similar to the Alien configuration for a while but have gone back to the Power 1. And lastly the Keyboard Trader software which is the main differentiation between his product and programming your own keyboard. The software allows you to set and easily adjust position size targets. This is useful if you scale in and out of positions as for example, if you are Bullish you may decide that your position size limits are:

Very Bullish- 3 contacts long
Bullish - 2 contracts long
Neutral- 1 contract long
Bearish- Flat
Very Bearish- 1 contract short

And then you can press the designated key and you will have as many contract needed bought or sold to get you to that position. So one key push can take you from Very Bearish to Bullish for instance without needing to worry about buying or selling the wrong amount. Another good key is the Liquidate key so you might set it to liquidate in single contracts. Whather you are long or short you press it and exit one contract, never adding to a position by mistake with a keyboard error. All the above keys can also be qualified with another key so for instance instead of taking the offer with a limit order to buy you can hold the key and get Neutral with a buy limit on the bid, or a predefined few ticks below the bid. There is also an Iceberg key you can setup to your own parameters. Also keyboards for easily trading multiple products or spread trading. Lastly the keyboard is always live (it has on and off keys on it), so you do not need to click your mouse on the DOM you want to select, or click to enter and nothing happens because you had just adjusted your chart so that window was the active window instead of the DOM.
I think for a single product trader it is really useful for thin markets that move quickly as you can just tap a key and try to join the market, say a limit to buy the bid, and then tap the order up to get filled if neccessary, easier than trying to do that with a mouse. Keyboard trading is much quicker than trying to move the mouse.
Like I say the only reason I stopped with it is the small round turn cost adds up (though it is capped. Though I never got near that amount), and I could get a bit click happy over trading. Also really beneficial if you are actively trading in and out in legs around a core position but less so if say just putting one or two trades and sitting back with targets in the market.
The keyboard is leased until it is payed for so I could have returned it after a few months for a refund but as I live in the UK I reckoned that by the time I had paid postage back to the US there wouldn't be much profit in it. Glad I did as I now use it with Ninjatrader. None of the smart contract position sizing obviously but Ninja does let you create custom orders and allow orders to be moved up and down the book with keyboard shortcuts.
So in summation, a very good product, good customer service and reasonable cost to try with the transactional pricing and being able to return the keyboard. You won't be disappointed.

Visit my futures io Trade Journal Reply With Quote
The following user says Thank You to matthew28 for this post:
 
(login for full post details)
  #17 (permalink)
 iq200 
Surrey, UK
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: Ninjatrader, Tradestation
Broker: Kinetick, InteractiveBrokers
Trading: Equities, Futures
 
Posts: 315 since Jun 2010
Thanks: 118 given, 201 received

Thanks for the detailed reply Mathew.
I was talking to Adam to clarify the pricing yesterday. I am using Tradestation and was told by Adam that I don't need to pay any additional running costs with this platform apart from the $375 basic cost. I do really like the product and am seriously considering buying it. I am just about to start trading and have for now bought the Logitech G13 to use hotkeys. If things go well I will go for the Keyboard Trader in the near future.

Follow me on Twitter Visit my futures io Trade Journal Reply With Quote
The following user says Thank You to iq200 for this post:
 
(login for full post details)
  #18 (permalink)
 theprophe 
prague,czech republic
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: Irt,bookmap
Broker: Edgeclear
Trading: Mes
 
Posts: 41 since Nov 2010
Thanks: 47 given, 37 received

I used a product similar to this (might even be the same hardware underneath, both 80 keys) while I was trading equities, you made your own groupings of keys. the single keys were great, and the double's, the the quad keys were not reliable. Each key has one plunger, so the quad key had four plungers underneath, depending how you hit the key, you might not activate a plunger and the key press wouldn't register. Off course the whole reason to have a big 4 key key was to quickly cancel, which means your hand is moving fast and hitting a slightly different part of the key each time.this is the on I used

https://xkeys.com/xkeys/xk80.php/

Reply With Quote
 
(login for full post details)
  #19 (permalink)
 matthew28 
Legendary Elite_Member
Wiltshire, United Kingdom
 
Experience: Beginner
Platform: Jigsaw daytradr
Trading: US Equity Index Futures
 
matthew28's Avatar
 
Posts: 994 since Sep 2013
Thanks: 2,506 given, 1,824 received

Just to say that the Keyboard Trader keyboard I have is Access-IS hardware (serial number label underneath), Access-IS Custom and Integrated Keyboards . All the keys: single, double, quad; worked faultlessly.

Visit my futures io Trade Journal Reply With Quote
 
(login for full post details)
  #20 (permalink)
 iq200 
Surrey, UK
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: Ninjatrader, Tradestation
Broker: Kinetick, InteractiveBrokers
Trading: Equities, Futures
 
Posts: 315 since Jun 2010
Thanks: 118 given, 201 received


theprophe View Post
I used a product similar to this (might even be the same hardware underneath, both 80 keys) while I was trading equities, you made your own groupings of keys. the single keys were great, and the double's, the the quad keys were not reliable. Each key has one plunger, so the quad key had four plungers underneath, depending how you hit the key, you might not activate a plunger and the key press wouldn't register. Off course the whole reason to have a big 4 key key was to quickly cancel, which means your hand is moving fast and hitting a slightly different part of the key each time.this is the on I used

X-keys XK-80 USB Keyboard

Thought I'd do a followup.

I seriously considered buying this product November last year at the time I posted. When I spoke to the vendor they were out of some keys and had no idea when the keys would be available so I decided to drop the idea and went instead for the Logitech G13. When I am more serious tho, I will probably go for the Keyboard Trader.

Follow me on Twitter Visit my futures io Trade Journal Reply With Quote


futures io Trading Community Trading Reviews and Vendors > Keyboard Trader (www.keyboardtrader.com)


Last Updated on June 10, 2017


Upcoming Webinars and Events
 

NinjaTrader Indicator Challenge!

Ongoing

NEW BlackBird Features + FOREX Support w/Jeremy Tang @ SharkIndicators

Elite only
 

Our 12-year anniversary w/ $$,$$$ prizes (check soon)

June
     



Copyright © 2021 by futures io, s.a., Av Ricardo J. Alfaro, Century Tower, Panama, Ph: +507 833-9432 (Panama and Intl), +1 888-312-3001 (USA and Canada), info@futures.io
All information is for educational use only and is not investment advice.
There is a substantial risk of loss in trading commodity futures, stocks, options and foreign exchange products. Past performance is not indicative of future results.
no new posts