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Cheap Alternative to Ninjatrader + Jigsaw DOM

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 KosherTrader 
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I'm looking for an affordable DOM / orderflow that is cheaper than Jigsaw and Ninjatrader, which combined would cost ~$1500 for a year, very overpriced IMHO. I'm thinking about Mirus Futures, Zenfire, and some good orderflow analysis tool similar to Jigsaw. What do you suggest?

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iHave you looked at this tool from Marketdelta? Can't argue with the price, It's free.

https://www.marketdelta.com/products/trader

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 cory 
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open account with etrader they use OEC Trader platform which jigsaw also runs on.

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 KosherTrader 
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Etrader does not appear to exist

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Etrader does not appear to exist

https://us.etrade.com/home
opps OEC trader is from openecry https://gainfutures.com/education-center/users-guides/trader.cfm. My brain went to bed already.

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 KosherTrader 
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Thanks for mentioning Open ECry, that looks like the best futures brokerage for DOM scalping the E-minis. It's interesting that free brokers and datafeeds are so unpopular. I think the marketing and naming of the products, e.g. Jigsaw and NinjaTrader, has a lot of appeal to consumers.

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 dlatbm 
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the best or the cheapest??
It looks like you are hunting for a 'free' solution
OEC is the worse data and app provider - it is a joke, not the application.
If NT too expensive use SierrCharts with the orderflow analytics
You can use OEC data but I would not use it if they pay me, not for free.
I meant it

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iHave you looked at this tool from Marketdelta? Can't argue with the price, It's free.

Trader | MarketDelta - Powerful, Easy, Fast, & Free Futures Trading Platform

Thanks trendisyourfriend,

Would you or anyone else know where this DOM is from? I haven't seen it before.



Thanks a lot,

All best

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 Beljevina 
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iHave you looked at this tool from Marketdelta? Can't argue with the price, It's free.

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True, the orderfootprint piece is free, but after some digging and wondering "where do they get you?" this is what comes along: the chart component is not free, but rather costly IMHO, and moreso than NT, potentially even more than after you have factored in some commercial volume footprint solutions. (Although GOM is wonderful and quite capable IMO). I took a listen to the MarketDelta webinar yesterday - and while 'free' was noted - I didn't hear that much about the 'gotcha' charges for regular charting (although I move around in the webinar, through the slow/boring parts) Every trader will need a 'traditional' charting package; I suppose the freebie/Amp/CQG version of NT can do, but I'd be hesitant to run 2 high end packages on a production/trading machine. And, at some point, the lack of seamlessness gets outweighed by the cost savings IMO. Anyway, here's their current price structure.

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Just to claify: Market Delta Chart and Market Delta trader are two separate things.

I agree that the charting service is pretty expensive. I tried for awhile and switched to NT with jigsaw. I was a lot more comfortable spending $400 up front as opposed to $150-200 a month. Also, I'm not a Market Profile guy, and I use Vol Prof with general consideration.

I use the NT/Jigsaw for charting/info and Market Delta Trader for actual order entry. I noticed NT freezes up in fast markets and I didn't want to deal with that when it comes to position management. MD has never froze up, no matter how fast of a market.

With my brokerage, MD trader is .10 cents a side, so technically it's not free. I think NT is the same.
If you want Footprint and trade 150-200 RT a month, I think it provides value.

Just my opinion!

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Thanks trendisyourfriend,

Would you or anyone else know where this DOM is from? I haven't seen it before.



Thanks a lot,

All best

this is not a real dom

cumulative volume and position in queue - NinjaTrader Support Forum

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OEC has a DOM that is exactly like this one pictured. I have used OEC and never had any issues with data, service etc...

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 euroventure 
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the DOM on sierra chart is truly unique,

from the DOM you can overlay time and sale ticks or bars, any indicator, market profile the list goes on and on, and the DOM itself shows cumulative volumes all this for low bucks, include the CME live feed again for low bucks,and your off to the races, like most I,ve tried many platforms, all had bugs with fast realtime markets, not SC a great piece of programming.

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