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Anyone have any experience with Darrell Martin and his Apex Investing Institute?

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I have reviewed the Apex indicators, along with the newest trend catcher indicator. First the backtest stats that are built in the indicator are from from true, it has settings you can play around with and come up with what i suppose to be optimum settings. Well they look great, but once does a manual back test results you will see a whole different outcome.

Then every other day there will be new rules, new updates and it is just a round robin and smoke and mirrors. I took a trial for 5 weeks, I asked for extensions to confirm results since every time I did have a confirmation of true results, a new update or new so called rule of how to trade them came out, soon I discovered that this will be a on going story and finally canceled it off.

Darrel is a smooth talker, yes they offer quick support, he will do endless videos, and say this is the reason why this didn't work, so if you did this it would be ok, it just never stops, and the poor new or struggling trader looking for some type of medium is once again taking advantage of, and blinded but the great backtest numbers the indicator comes up with.

I just have to say, if you gonna trust the same software to give you backtest results of the same indicator, same company, then you better do your own homework and make it prove it to you. A person using this system will be slowly bled out of money, and have nothing to show except for a fancy indicator doing nothing.

Do not be folded by his smooth tactics, the system is not worth a penny in the long run.

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So with reference to the Apex Trading system, I just feel I have to add a bit more to this. I have received a email of them admitting and acknowledgement of the trading system to have issues, and that they do need to have serious redevelopment of it. They actually ask not to post this information in there forum so no others will be alerted to this, the fact is all these other poor traders are getting cleaned out, while Apex just keeps making new rules to try and make this system feel worthy.

I tell you I have ran into many ugly vendors, but this one takes the cake. Darrell Martin and Apex How do you go to bed and sleep at night? WOW!!!

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his chart looks like one of my experimental chart

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drytlewski322,

I could not agree with you more! I fell for the Apex Investing trap. Word of advice, read the TOS, they do not stand by their product and thus will not offer refunds at the end of your trial, once full service begins automatically. Apex will be quick to argue that it is a necessary part of doing biz to not offer refunds, but I contacted them on the day after my trial ended and they refused refund, even though I am completely unimpressed with their product. It is sad how they use smooth talking to sink their talons into new traders. I only joined because I was interested in their trend catcher for 5 min binaries, boy was I wrong. Please do your due diligence and ask around about this service before using.

Also, their user interface is horrific.... They make it way more difficult to get setup and going with their products than is even remotely necessary. One would think they could funnel a bit of monthly revenue into improving their UI and delivery!





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I have reviewed the Apex indicators, along with the newest trend catcher indicator. First the backtest stats that are built in the indicator are from from true, it has settings you can play around with and come up with what i suppose to be optimum settings. Well they look great, but once does a manual back test results you will see a whole different outcome.

Then every other day there will be new rules, new updates and it is just a round robin and smoke and mirrors. I took a trial for 5 weeks, I asked for extensions to confirm results since every time I did have a confirmation of true results, a new update or new so called rule of how to trade them came out, soon I discovered that this will be a on going story and finally canceled it off.

Darrel is a smooth talker, yes they offer quick support, he will do endless videos, and say this is the reason why this didn't work, so if you did this it would be ok, it just never stops, and the poor new or struggling trader looking for some type of medium is once again taking advantage of, and blinded but the great backtest numbers the indicator comes up with.

I just have to say, if you gonna trust the same software to give you backtest results of the same indicator, same company, then you better do your own homework and make it prove it to you. A person using this system will be slowly bled out of money, and have nothing to show except for a fancy indicator doing nothing.

Do not be folded by his smooth tactics, the system is not worth a penny in the long run.


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**UPDATE** I was contacted personally by Darrell Martin to discuss my issues and he went above and beyond the call of duty to compensate. In addition, he was extremely responsive to my issues and requested feedback as to how they might be resolved. This is a mark of superior customer service and I stand corrected regarding my previous complaint. While I still stand behind my comments regarding the difficulty of use and UI, it sounds as though Apex has invested a considerable amount of time and money to update and I will look forward to seeing what they roll out. It is increasingly rare these days to find a business owner so proactive, and hopefully the manner in which my experience ended on such a positive note, will assist those on the fence regarding this product.






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drytlewski322,

I could not agree with you more! I fell for the Apex Investing trap. Word of advice, read the TOS, they do not stand by their product and thus will not offer refunds at the end of your trial, once full service begins automatically. Apex will be quick to argue that it is a necessary part of doing biz to not offer refunds, but I contacted them on the day after my trial ended and they refused refund, even though I am completely unimpressed with their product. It is sad how they use smooth talking to sink their talons into new traders. I only joined because I was interested in their trend catcher for 5 min binaries, boy was I wrong. Please do your due diligence and ask around about this service before using.

Also, their user interface is horrific.... They make it way more difficult to get setup and going with their products than is even remotely necessary. One would think they could funnel a bit of monthly revenue into improving their UI and delivery!


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I do not use all the bells and whistles but some of the tools do help me.

Use it in combination with lot of Cory Tools and Dynamic Bars from here.

Generally don't follow any of his settings but for some reason if the box helps my trading.

Generally will make sure i am near the top and bottom of the box with my only derived price levels.

He may be slick don't know all the others and of course do not think somebody could go into the room and make money cold turkey but he has least has a few things that can add a different layer I guess if that makes sense

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I will highlight a few excerpts from his so-called journal.

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I also want to mention that this was his linked "personal blog":

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Completely unreal.

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Anyone successful with Apex Investing Sniper and comfortable sharing their experience with me? Any input more recent than 2015? And who was the fraudulent vendor - Apex or someone else?

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I've been a member for several months. If you are interested in Order Flow as I was, the Apex indicators allow you to easily follow order flow and take trades based on exhaustion, trapped traders, volume vs. price divergences and more regularly recurring order flow setup patterns. Education is excellent and there are a number of useful add ons and package deals available, as well as a no charge 30 - 60 day trial. Highly recommended.

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