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Are there Prop Trading Firms with the following characteristics?

Approach: Market-Volume Profile, Order Flow Analysis (DOM -Jigsaw-, Footprint Charts...)

Charting platform: MarketDelta or NinjaTrader with add ons like Gomi's...

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You'd have to ask the firm about their approach. A lot of them are quant based, if they are discretionary, directional traders they probably use volume profile. Most prop firms use xtrader because of its DOM, they might use a separate platform for charting. an alternative to xtrader would be the jigsaw add-on for ninjatrader, which is actually better because it splits the bid/offer prints. Talk about a late response lol.

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You'd have to ask the firm about their approach. A lot of them are quant based, if they are discretionary, directional traders they probably use volume profile. Most prop firms use xtrader because of its DOM, they might use a separate platform for charting. an alternative to xtrader would be the jigsaw add-on for ninjatrader, which is actually better because it splits the bid/offer prints. Talk about a late response lol.

The guys I've met from Propex are using XTrader as you say. Its a whole package though, data, risk, spreading, iceberg orders, etc. They usually getting great commissions and the software is just another expense. They're not likely using Jigsaw for execution, but they would be stupid not look at it for training purposes at least. Using a VWAP to help with directional equity index trading would be encouraged at least, IMO. Market or Volume profile is not as accepted as it is in the US from what they've told me and what i have seen of the US traders. That said they are getting their idea of context and value, clearly from something else. Also, not all traders in non-US regions have tick, VIX, market internals etc., to use for confluences.

The most successful directional prop trader i know uses his determination of context and the order flow. The most successful Prop guy i know is a bond trader, spreader. Large lots, hang on through the pain until it reverts, cheap commissions are key here too.

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Is there a big difference between jigsaw vs xtrader execution? And on a side note, do you think scalping US products is viable from Australia ( I have a ping of 230ms to chicago).

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