I've discussed it with a few customers. I'm in 2 minds about it.
On the one hand, I do have people moving over from XTrader to Jigsaw and that feature is something they like.
On the other hand, I never set out to be an XTrader clone or use their feature list as my design spec.
The order entry aspect of Jigsaw is pretty squarely targeted as a 'no frills but no fumbling' order entry tools so leans more towards scalpers so it is very relevant.
EPIC is quite a rough estimation and pretty inaccurate, I think if I can find a better way to implement a way of showing people where they are in the queue, then I will do it. It'll have to come after the new platforms though.
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I have listened to the presentation Yesterday and must admit this was my first exposure to this kind of tool. I did understand nothing and really can't see the benefits yet but i would like to stay open and deepen my knowledge a bit more question of beeing able to discuss intelligently with my peers. What path in terms of education would you suggest so that i can educate myself and is this tool a replacement of the footprint (volume ladder) ? thanks.
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We have a 2-part webinar coming up on futures.io (formerly BMT) that will take order flow novices from zero to having an understanding of the concepts that underly all order flow tools (not just ours). I hope that will give people the tools for them to then go out and develop their own approach.
The Webinars will be in May. There's no harm in you having a look at this stuff before that but I wouldn't advise turning yourself into a screen zombie at this point.
I meet lots of traders through Jigsaw. Some can read a footprint and then will ask "how does cumulative delta work?" - to me, that says they don't understand the concepts that underpin all order flow tools. To me a Cumulative Delta/Footprint/Time & Sales/Jigsaw tools - it's all different ways of looking at the same thing. There's a philosophy you need to grasp. I didn't get it myself 'till someone explained it to me. So I plan to pass on the knowledge too.
I have a certain way of explaining this in laymans terms that has so far been effective. That's what we will do in May. Now - regarding the footprint, I probably already answered that in a roundabout way. There is absolutely some overlap between Jigsaw tools and the footprint. The only difference is in how 'zoomed in' you are and the fact that DOMs are unique in showing resting orders, not just executions.
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I've just watched the recording and towards the end, Peter mentioned about supporting other platforms, besides NT. I sure hope Sierra Chart will be one of them..
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Peter will be presenting a multi-part webinar series on Order Flow Techniques for Day Traders on futures.io (formerly BMT). Part I will be Saturday, May 4th @ 12:00 PM ET.
, I just watched the webinar done by on trading thin fast markets using order flow techniques. Very informative, thanks .
Peter (or xelaar) what are your thoughts on trading thin, yet slower moving markets. For example the YM I presume would be regarded as a thin market but it moves slowly relative to the likes of crude, gold etc.
No specific question here,...just interested in your thoughts on using orderflow techniques in thin + slow markets and what you might keep an eye out for which you wouldn't look for in other markets.
Edit: Hi again Peter, i've just watched part two of your three part webinar where you actually discuss a bit of the above. So unless there's anything else you want to add here,...please ignore my question
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