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Hi Pete,

I also have one question regarding your way of analyzing order flow.
For example, if we have a long breakout, we wait for a retracement/pullback and trade the new long entry. How do you know how long a pullback is? I recently took a trade where the pullback had finished, the market went sideways for 1-2 minutes and then I entered long, but the market dropped again. Is it just analysis to see very early that the market is gonna fall again?

Thank you very much in advance.
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Hi Pete,

I also have one question regarding your way of analyzing order flow.
For example, if we have a long breakout, we wait for a retracement/pullback and trade the new long entry. How do you know how long a pullback is? I recently took a trade where the pullback had finished, the market went sideways for 1-2 minutes and then I entered long, but the market dropped again. Is it just analysis to see very early that the market is gonna fall again?

Thank you very much in advance.
Max

I look for 2 things

1 - Retrace to a "step" in the volume profile
2 - Measured move.

For measured moves, it's also what some people call "harmonics" - pull up a 600-900 tick chart on the ES and look at the pullback sizes. Let's say we move down and we make 8 tick pullbacks. As we move up again in the same day, I'll expect similar sized pullbacks.

I see the pullback size as just a measure of volatility - it's not perfect but it is as good as anything else I've ever seen.

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I look for 2 things

1 - Retrace to a "step" in the volume profile
2 - Measured move.

For measured moves, it's also what some people call "harmonics" - pull up a 600-900 tick chart on the ES and look at the pullback sizes. Let's say we move down and we make 8 tick pullbacks. As we move up again in the same day, I'll expect similar sized pullbacks.

I see the pullback size as just a measure of volatility - it's not perfect but it is as good as anything else I've ever seen.

Thanks Peter, that helps me very well. Will try this and post it in my journal.

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Jigsaw

ok..ok what is the best way to learn Jigsaw ... for beginners.
It's very tought at start to understand the conceipt of jigsaw but then what .. how to read the ladders.
What is one signle thing I can do to learn to read and understand Jigsaw. I have 2 hours I can sit a side each day for the next year or so. So how should I spend that time to learn jigsaw..

Please and thank you

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ok..ok what is the best way to learn Jigsaw ... for beginners.
It's very tought at start to understand the conceipt of jigsaw but then what .. how to read the ladders.
What is one signle thing I can do to learn to read and understand Jigsaw. I have 2 hours I can sit a side each day for the next year or so. So how should I spend that time to learn jigsaw..

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There are multiple order flow webinars from Pete on futures.io (formerly BMT)

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... I have 2 hours I can sit a side each day for the next year or so. So how should I spend that time to learn jigsaw...

Spend one hour each day watching one of Pete's excellent webinars on futures.io (formerly BMT) and on his site.

Spend the second hour watching the Jigsaw tools on a live market following the guidelines in Pete's beginner videos - ie watching one thing at a time at first.

Rinse and repeat... You should only need a few weeks if you do commit such valuable time.

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ok..ok what is the best way to learn Jigsaw ... for beginners.
It's very tought at start to understand the conceipt of jigsaw but then what .. how to read the ladders.
What is one signle thing I can do to learn to read and understand Jigsaw. I have 2 hours I can sit a side each day for the next year or so. So how should I spend that time to learn jigsaw..

Please and thank you

This video shows the "first steps" and why they are the first steps.



This isn't just for Jigsaw but for any order flow tools too in my opinion.

Just this, nothing else, that's all.

Lot's of people see this, ignore it and just try to use it live trading without really taking time to learn it first. The most extreme case was someone that got the tools, lost a lot of money trying to use them live and contacted me for a refund. All in a 3 hour period.

Follow the above and you should improve each day. Look to have made major strides within 10 hours.

But that's not 10 hours in one day - just 1 or 2 hours a day is enough as it's hard to maintain focus initially.

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ok..ok what is the best way to learn Jigsaw ... for beginners.
It's very tought at start to understand the conceipt of jigsaw but then what .. how to read the ladders.
What is one signle thing I can do to learn to read and understand Jigsaw. I have 2 hours I can sit a side each day for the next year or so. So how should I spend that time to learn jigsaw..

Please and thank you

I would extremely recommend SIM trading with the Jigsaw tools.
Unlike (reportedly) majority, I am not a visual type at all. I am more a kinesthetic and auditory-digital type (if you are familiar with NLP personalities) so watching the DOM "only" showed me something but I was not able to find out what it was. Being in a trade let me have a more "palpable" experience and helped me immensely.

My two cents.

Successful trading.

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Pete Chat Scedule?


Just bought Jigwaw tools over Thanksgiving. So, just getting everything setup.
Saw Dec. 01, Pete was in Chat room. Looked like he logged out @10:00 EST.
QUESTION: Does Pete have a set chat room schedule?

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