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Order Flow Analytics' D.B. Vaello (President) - Ask Me Anything (AMA)

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 parisparis 
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"I have core license to transfer to anyone interested.
My REAL life has thrown a curveball and I need to focus on day job
than trade.
Great system and DB + George are great people.
Take advantage of this prior to the April 4th Webinar.

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Mike Sullivan "


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I have a few questions to DB.
You wrote earlier:
"We have a CD tool that we call Inventory Tracking. It allows the user to measure the CD from custom anchor points (maybe the high and low of a developing range) to triangulate the CD relative to the current market prices. It has similar historical functions as well. I give full disclosure to my clients that I do not use this tool because the logic does not make sense to me."
"I calculate what we call the "COT" which is essentially just the Net of the Rotation or counter move. "

I understand CD is bid trades minus ask trades, and COT is buyers minus sellers, but I guess buyer is someone who buys asks, seller sells bids, so isn't it the same or you take it differently?

And do you think that order flow is useful for regular US session for ES when the most of the volume takes place and it is not so useful for European session?

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 dom64 
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I have a few questions to DB.
You wrote earlier:
"We have a CD tool that we call Inventory Tracking. It allows the user to measure the CD from custom anchor points (maybe the high and low of a developing range) to triangulate the CD relative to the current market prices. It has similar historical functions as well. I give full disclosure to my clients that I do not use this tool because the logic does not make sense to me."
"I calculate what we call the "COT" which is essentially just the Net of the Rotation or counter move. "

I understand CD is bid trades minus ask trades, and COT is buyers minus sellers, but I guess buyer is someone who buys asks, seller sells bids, so isn't it the same or you take it differently?

And do you think that order flow is useful for regular US session for ES when the most of the volume takes place and it is not so useful for European session?

COT can be calculated in a few ways, but to me at least it is the Delta since a new high or low (but this might not be everyone's definition of it and certainly not the only one).

I can't answer for someone else, but why would order flow be useful for US session and not for European? I use order flow only for European session, and couldn't trade without it. Demand and suply doesn't have any preferred session, and apply at all times even if the more liquid the sessions the better.

Absolutely loving the OFA tool so far, really pleased with it altough as with cars, a good drive won't make you a good driver and one needs to learn and practice.

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COT can be calculated in a few ways, but to me at least it is the Delta since a new high or low (but this might not be everyone's definition of it and certainly not the only one).

I can't answer for someone else, but why would order flow be useful for US session and not for European? I use order flow only for European session, and couldn't trade without it. Demand and suply doesn't have any preferred session, and apply at all times even if the more liquid the sessions the better.

Absolutely loving the OFA tool so far, really pleased with it altough as with cars, a good drive won't make you a good driver and one needs to learn and practice.

Well, European session has little volume in ES, sometimes it just sits within a few points, and I am not sure that Order flow will produce clear signals...

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 dom64 
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Well, European session has little volume in ES, sometimes it just sits within a few points, and I am not sure that Order flow will produce clear signals...

True, hence why I said I wouldn't want to reply for someone else as I don't trade the ES, and "the more liquid the sessions he better", but still IMO most useful to follow the flow even at lower liquidity times.

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egormaev View Post
I have a few questions to DB.
You wrote earlier:
"We have a CD tool that we call Inventory Tracking. It allows the user to measure the CD from custom anchor points (maybe the high and low of a developing range) to triangulate the CD relative to the current market prices. It has similar historical functions as well. I give full disclosure to my clients that I do not use this tool because the logic does not make sense to me."
"I calculate what we call the "COT" which is essentially just the Net of the Rotation or counter move. "

I understand CD is bid trades minus ask trades, and COT is buyers minus sellers, but I guess buyer is someone who buys asks, seller sells bids, so isn't it the same or you take it differently?

And do you think that order flow is useful for regular US session for ES when the most of the volume takes place and it is not so useful for European session?

So we are clear... Ask trade minus bid trade would be the proper way to calculate CD. Ask being given a positive connotation and Bid a negative one - implying that those trades were initiated by a buyer (ask) or seller (bid). But again, its logic is limited because there is a buyer and seller for every contract. What we call COT is a very specific range - the rotation - calculated the same way.

I cant imagine there is any reason you would implement OFA in one session and not the other. Order Flow is about directional movement - so if the instrument is moving you can use it. If the instrument (or underlying index/market) is so incredibly subsidized to the point where terrible housing and consumer confidence numbers cant seem to move it to new all time highs - then maybe you should consider instruments that do move.

Needless to say I'm really tired of QE4ever and think Cyprus rumors are awesome. OS+PS≠R Print bumper stickers.

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OFA, I thought you were doing a webinar? Don't see you on the schedule anymore.

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OFA, I thought you were doing a webinar? Don't see you on the schedule anymore.

DB asked to reschedule the webinar. I posted the notice in the main upcoming webinars thread.

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OFA, I thought you were doing a webinar? Don't see you on the schedule anymore.

Yes we had to reschedule. I think we're shooting for June but send a pm and I'm happy to schedule 1-on-1 presentations that are a little less formal. I always put a lot of prep work into webinars so the're educational and not just a sales pitch - this one just wasn't ready. I tend to do about 4 per year across all venues and Mike's audience deserves something out of the box. I want to make sure you get it.

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