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I'm still anti- No BS!
I don't think he teaches techniques with much edge.
Every Grady inspired trader I've watched seems to have a winrate similar to a chart pattern guesser.
He might be awesome, but from my exposure to his techniques, his writings, but not his webinars in person-- I wouldn't go to him to learn.
It use to be the case that you 'had' to go to him to learn because he was the only 'real' DOM trader teaching retail guys.
I'm simply unimpressed with his sit on your hands style, and chase size tactics.

Hi Michael,

Can you recommend some alternatives on order flow and DOM-based training

I have enough of theory. Now I'm looking for something practical and actionable. I'd prefer to see some real-world executions

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Hi Michael,

Can you recommend some alternatives on order flow and DOM-based training

I have enough of theory. Now I'm looking for something practical and actionable. I'd prefer to see some real-world executions

Check Axia Futures YT channel. Literally a gold mine of OF and DOM based material

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Can you honestly tell us did his training finally made you a consistently profitable trader?
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I was very excited and absolutely sure that this time it will be all different, now I know everything to conquer the markets and so on...

Development as a trader happens when you take pieces from here and there, formulate your model of the market and decide who you are as a trader. There are obvious universal principles which must guide you regardless of methodology (risk management, for example), but you literally get to choose who you want to be. People try to copy others, and do everything they do, and it just doesn't work that way. No doubt John Grady has a lot of valuable info to teach, but expecting one person's way of doing things to translate directly to you is not reasonable and not how it works. I'm sure John would agree, and he is exchanging information that you can perhaps find useful, for money. It's perfectly reasonable, and I'm sure he doesn't promise anything beyond that.

You said two things which show you are after the holy grail. It's how almost everyone approaches the market in the beginning. (1) "Did his training finally make you ..profitable" and (2) "this time it will be all different, now I know everything to conquer the markets..." You can accept the fact that this type of thinking doesn't work, and save yourself time and money, or you can continue your search for the holy grail and be right where you are, in the same place, years from now. The choice is yours.

My suggestion: think for yourself. Pay for training, get it for free, borrow ideas, all of that of course -- but own what you do.

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Development as a trader happens when you take pieces from here and there, formulate your model of the market and decide who you are as a trader.

Absolutely. I got theoretical solid training. Now looking to check some different methods of trading.

Internet is full of theory, but It's very hard to find materials illustrating actual traders during their day and to see how they execute.

I'd like to see how one executes on fast market, slow market, thin market, thick market and so on

If I will see that than I will be able to choose what's best for me



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You said two things which show you are after the holy grail

Absolutely not. I'm just not buying the idea that I have to spend 10 years staring at my screen trying to figure it out. It's not an effective way of lerning.

I just want to watch experienced traders and what they do and to choose my own way based on that

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I just want to watch experienced traders and what they do and to choose my own way based on that

Agreed. That's why I like John's webinars. You are basically "shadowing" someone who is a daytrader. You are hanging out with him all 2 weeks and experiencing how it really is to be one.

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