Jaguar trading club (protradered.blogspot.com) w/Ed Abreu - Trading Reviews and Vendors | futures io social day trading
futures io futures trading


Jaguar trading club (protradered.blogspot.com) w/Ed Abreu
Updated: Views / Replies:48,379 / 193
Created: by jet9jockey Attachments:22

Welcome to futures io.

(If you already have an account, login at the top of the page)

futures io is the largest futures trading community on the planet, with over 90,000 members. At futures io, our goal has always been and always will be to create a friendly, positive, forward-thinking community where members can openly share and discuss everything the world of trading has to offer. The community is one of the friendliest you will find on any subject, with members going out of their way to help others. Some of the primary differences between futures io and other trading sites revolve around the standards of our community. Those standards include a code of conduct for our members, as well as extremely high standards that govern which partners we do business with, and which products or services we recommend to our members.

At futures io, our focus is on quality education. No hype, gimmicks, or secret sauce. The truth is: trading is hard. To succeed, you need to surround yourself with the right support system, educational content, and trading mentors Ė all of which you can find on futures io, utilizing our social trading environment.

With futures io, you can find honest trading reviews on brokers, trading rooms, indicator packages, trading strategies, and much more. Our trading review process is highly moderated to ensure that only genuine users are allowed, so you donít need to worry about fake reviews.

We are fundamentally different than most other trading sites:
  • We are here to help. Just let us know what you need.
  • We work extremely hard to keep things positive in our community.
  • We do not tolerate rude behavior, trolling, or vendors advertising in posts.
  • We firmly believe in and encourage sharing. The holy grail is within you, we can help you find it.
  • We expect our members to participate and become a part of the community. Help yourself by helping others.

You'll need to register in order to view the content of the threads and start contributing to our community.  It's free and simple.

-- Big Mike, Site Administrator

Reply
 22  
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
 

Jaguar trading club (protradered.blogspot.com) w/Ed Abreu

  #101 (permalink)
Elite member
Hertfordshire England
 
Futures Experience: Intermediate
Platform: NT
Favorite Futures: DAX
 
pvlee's Avatar
 
Posts: 92 since May 2011
Thanks: 96 given, 164 received

I just hope that Ed's trading room victims have the cahoonas to ask for the mic during the session tomorrow and demand their money back.

Reply With Quote
The following 3 users say Thank You to pvlee for this post:
 
  #102 (permalink)
Elite Member
Europe
 
Futures Experience: Beginner
Platform: NinjaTrader
 
Posts: 73 since Jun 2009
Thanks: 11 given, 52 received


opentrdr View Post
NO BS. Here are the precise instructions. Start Ninja. Place a bunch of SIM trades (good and bad). Disconnect from your data provider. Reconnect. Go to the executions tab and delete the losing trades. You are now a trading god and can charge $3,500 for anyone willing to believe you. Simple. Oh, I forgot-I am using V7.0.1000.25 (Live)

confirmed. that's how it's done.
very clever.

i'm shocked.

Reply With Quote
The following 3 users say Thank You to toulouse-lautrec for this post:
 
  #103 (permalink)
Market Wizard
Boca Raton
 
Futures Experience: Advanced
Platform: Variety
Broker/Data: Optimus Futures, LLC
Favorite Futures: Futures
 
mattz's Avatar
 
Posts: 2,060 since Sep 2010
Thanks: 1,933 given, 2,787 received
Forum Reputation: Legendary



Big Mike View Post
Unless @mattz endorses him in some way, I don't think that matters. But being a NinjaTrader partner with a listing and affiliation is more of a concern, at least to me. I will stay out of whether he is a fraud or not, I am just concerned in all the unhappy customers - there seems to be a pattern which warrants some investigation.

Mike

We don't endorse anyone. If we feel customers have unrealistic expectations, we simply share with them the reality of trading and it's challenges. Ed's call ins never sounded like they have unrealistic expectations and showed willingness to practice on an ongoing basis, so I was never altered as to any type of "hype".

I don't know what people consider legit, or not, when I learned trading I did it by going to the book store and buying books. I sat and read it, did charting and spoke to people who traded live, and some were even floor brokers.
I was very young when I realized how difficult markets are, and there is no method, system, "the way" that could consistently work. Today, without admitting it, many traders still seek red light/green light methods and many of their frustrations are the result of buying products that did not deliver their expectations.

So if you are someone who purchased literature in the past or are shopping around in order to further enhance your knowledge, I recommend you implement the following approach when it comes to trading:

I truly believe that the development of your own methodology has to be based on a sound understanding of the supply and demand of market prices. More specifically, a thorough understanding of the odds of whether the buyers or sellers are controlling the markets.

I discourage people from thinking in terms of red light/green light whereby you seek a method that has some sort of a probability that you think will work under all market conditions. Rather, we encourage you to seek out a set of tools (indicators/methodology) that can be used under different market conditions. Your experience over time will dictate which set of indicators will be better suited for the different markets you trade.

I encourage the understanding of a value-based approach where you DONíT look at prices only in terms of highs and lows, but rather in the value perceived at that point in time to other buyer and sellers. This approach will prevent you from attempting to catch the high and lows to the point where prices are just numbers.

Your frequency of trading should match your personality and tolerance and above all should only increase as your own trading experience increases. Overtime, you will actually find yourself feeling more comfortable trading certain markets at certain times of the day. There is no way quick-fire way to achieve this. Only time and patience will get you there.

THERE IS A SUBSTANTIAL RISK OF LOSS IN FUTURES TRADING. PAST PERFORMANCE IS NOT INDICATIVE OF FUTURE RESULTS.

Matt

PM with any questions about optimusfutures (800) 771-6748 (561) 367 8686. THERE IS A SUBSTANTIAL RISK OF LOSS IN FUTURES TRADING.
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users say Thank You to mattz for this post:
 
  #104 (permalink)
Elite member
Hertfordshire England
 
Futures Experience: Intermediate
Platform: NT
Favorite Futures: DAX
 
pvlee's Avatar
 
Posts: 92 since May 2011
Thanks: 96 given, 164 received


mattz View Post
We don't endorse anyone. If we feel customers have unrealistic expectations, we simply share with them the reality of trading and it's challenges. Ed's call ins never sounded like they have unrealistic expectations and showed willingness to practice on an ongoing basis, so I was never altered as to any type of "hype".

I don't know what people consider legit, or not, when I learned trading I did it by going to the book store and buying books. I sat and read it, did charting and spoke to people who traded live, and some were even floor brokers.
I was very young when I realized how difficult markets are, and there is no method, system, "the way" that could consistently work. Today, without admitting it, many traders still seek red light/green light methods and many of their frustrations are the result of buying products that did not deliver their expectations.

So if you are someone who purchased literature in the past or are shopping around in order to further enhance your knowledge, I recommend you implement the following approach when it comes to trading:

I truly believe that the development of your own methodology has to be based on a sound understanding of the supply and demand of market prices. More specifically, a thorough understanding of the odds of whether the buyers or sellers are controlling the markets.

I discourage people from thinking in terms of red light/green light whereby you seek a method that has some sort of a probability that you think will work under all market conditions. Rather, we encourage you to seek out a set of tools (indicators/methodology) that can be used under different market conditions. Your experience over time will dictate which set of indicators will be better suited for the different markets you trade.

I encourage the understanding of a value-based approach where you DONíT look at prices only in terms of highs and lows, but rather in the value perceived at that point in time to other buyer and sellers. This approach will prevent you from attempting to catch the high and lows to the point where prices are just numbers.

Your frequency of trading should match your personality and tolerance and above all should only increase as your own trading experience increases. Overtime, you will actually find yourself feeling more comfortable trading certain markets at certain times of the day. There is no way quick-fire way to achieve this. Only time and patience will get you there.

THERE IS A SUBSTANTIAL RISK OF LOSS IN FUTURES TRADING. PAST PERFORMANCE IS NOT INDICATIVE OF FUTURE RESULTS.

Matt

He seems to trade through Optimus so you would know if he is a fraud or not. If you believe he is a fraud then I'm sure you would want him to remove your logo from his blog

Reply With Quote
The following 2 users say Thank You to pvlee for this post:
 
  #105 (permalink)
Elite Member
Indianapolis, IN USA
 
Futures Experience: Advanced
Platform: Ninjatrader TOS Custom
Broker/Data: Several
Favorite Futures: ES CL ZB
 
Posts: 370 since Dec 2009
Thanks: 218 given, 369 received


pvlee View Post
He seems to trade through Optimus so you would know if he is a fraud or not. If you believe he is a fraud then I'm sure you would want him to remove your logo from his blog

Indeed.

Reply With Quote
 
  #106 (permalink)
Elite Member
london uk
 
Futures Experience: Beginner
Platform: NinjaTrader
Broker/Data: Zen-Fire
Favorite Futures: Stocks
 
tellytub's Avatar
 
Posts: 409 since Jun 2009
Thanks: 333 given, 118 received

I guess its just another "potential stream" for them to make money. People will go to Ed's site, see the "so called" results, think wow this Ed person is amazing, lets sign up, oh and "Tell MATT I sent you."

I think if people went to BMF 1st, it would be a different ball game all together.

Reply With Quote
 
  #107 (permalink)
Elite member
Hertfordshire England
 
Futures Experience: Intermediate
Platform: NT
Favorite Futures: DAX
 
pvlee's Avatar
 
Posts: 92 since May 2011
Thanks: 96 given, 164 received


tellytub View Post
I guess its just another "potential stream" for them to make money. People will go to Ed's site, see the "so called" results, think wow this Ed person is amazing, lets sign up, oh and "Tell MATT I sent you."

I think if people went to BMF 1st, it would be a different ball game all together.

I think if Optimus Futures were to guarantee that the trades are all true and made against a live account then that would be an end to the matter.

But judging by the way the club members are wanting to take the legal route to get their money back, Optimus may be receiving a subpoena anyway.

Reply With Quote
The following 2 users say Thank You to pvlee for this post:
 
  #108 (permalink)
Elite Member
london uk
 
Futures Experience: Beginner
Platform: NinjaTrader
Broker/Data: Zen-Fire
Favorite Futures: Stocks
 
tellytub's Avatar
 
Posts: 409 since Jun 2009
Thanks: 333 given, 118 received


pvlee View Post
I think if Optimus Futures were to guarantee that the trades are all true and made against a live account then that would be an end to the matter.

But judging by the way the club members are wanting to take the legal route to get their money back, Optimus may be receiving a subpoena anyway.


Looks like the Optimus Futures button has gone from his site!

Reply With Quote
The following 2 users say Thank You to tellytub for this post:
 
  #109 (permalink)
Elite member
Hertfordshire England
 
Futures Experience: Intermediate
Platform: NT
Favorite Futures: DAX
 
pvlee's Avatar
 
Posts: 92 since May 2011
Thanks: 96 given, 164 received


tellytub View Post
Looks like the Optimus Futures button has gone from his site!

Wow... Now I am shocked!

Reply With Quote
The following user says Thank You to pvlee for this post:
 
  #110 (permalink)
Elite member
Hertfordshire England
 
Futures Experience: Intermediate
Platform: NT
Favorite Futures: DAX
 
pvlee's Avatar
 
Posts: 92 since May 2011
Thanks: 96 given, 164 received



tellytub View Post
Looks like the Optimus Futures button has gone from his site!

Kudos to Matt and Optimus Futures. They obviously value their integrity

Reply With Quote
The following 2 users say Thank You to pvlee for this post:

Reply



futures io > > > Jaguar trading club (protradered.blogspot.com) w/Ed Abreu

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search



Upcoming Webinars and Events (4:30PM ET unless noted)

Jigsaw Trading: TBA

Elite only

FuturesTrader71: TBA

Elite only

NinjaTrader: TBA

Jan 18

RandBots: TBA

Jan 23

GFF Brokers & CME Group: Futures & Bitcoin

Elite only

Adam Grimes: TBA

Elite only

Ran Aroussi: TBA

Elite only
     

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Market Club .. Trade Triangles (club.ino.com) bakeyser Trading Reviews and Vendors 5 December 14th, 2011 06:43 AM
Did POTUS Just Become A Self-Congratulatory FT Op-Ed Blogger? Quick Summary News and Current Events 0 October 27th, 2011 11:48 PM
Ed's Renko for NT7 ? Breakout NinjaTrader 4 May 28th, 2010 08:29 PM
ProTrader Ed's Journal Jaguar52 Elite Trading Journals 42 April 12th, 2010 06:25 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:34 PM.

Copyright © 2017 by futures io, s.a., Av Ricardo J. Alfaro, Century Tower, Panama, +507 833-9432, info@futures.io
All information is for educational use only and is not investment advice.
There is a substantial risk of loss in trading commodity futures, stocks, options and foreign exchange products. Past performance is not indicative of future results.
no new posts
Page generated 2017-12-17 in 0.13 seconds with 20 queries on phoenix via your IP 54.221.73.186