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Tradervue is a cloud based journaling site with a slew of analytics and broker/platform imports including Ninja/Sierra. I had been keeping an excel journal and found it cumbersome to update and share with others. Tradevue's cloud implementation is great with a sharing feature, chart plotting, even a mentoring read-only option. But what impressed me most and prompted me to do this write up was the support, I had a question about X-Trader import late at night and not only did Greg offer to add this option to the site (I actually no longer require this) but he promptly replied to the mail I sent at 10pm at night PST, I don't expect this from any vendor but it sure showed me the commitment to his users in developing their needs.

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I already gushed a bit about Greg and Tradervue over on the webinar thread, but, as Mike suggested, posting on the review thread is the way to go. So here's my review of the Tradervue journaling software.

Features
Can Tradervue do a lot of stuff? Absolutely. You can track equities, options, and futures. You can import your trade data from about 190189270 different brokers. You can share trades and view others' shared trades. You can analyze your personal trade data to your little statistical heart's content. You can do about a million different types of reports. You can be as verbose as you want via the journal notes. Tagging is virtually endless. Yes, it's got tons of features.

Flexibility
Like Burger King, Tradervue lets you have it your way. There are tons of things you can do to customize how you use and interact with your journal. The importance of this is being able to utilize the software that is apprpopriate for you and your style of trading. Something critical to my own progress could be meaningless noise to someone else.

Function
Smooth like butter. Very responsive. And just about everything is clickable. There is a ridiculous degree of drilldown available. Wanna see how well you do trading ES to the long side on trend days during the first hour of trading on Mondays after your favorite NFL team lost by a field goal in overtime in an away game? Go for it. Okay, maybe not the NFL part. But you can easily and quickly get about as granular as you want with your analysis. The interface is very straightforward and a cinch to navigate. It cohesively combines the features and flexibility so that traders can painlessly do the two things Tradervue was designed to facilitate: journal and analyze.

Usefulness
This ties back to flexibility; the usefulness of the software is going to depend on how much you put it into it. The bottom line is the software erases any excuses when it comes to understanding your own trading stats. You don't have to spend hours and hours doing this stuff, but you do need to be active. Passively dumping your data into the journal will probably not have much impact on your trading and it will be severely underutilizing Tradervue's big, brawny analytical biceps.

Service
I saved this for last because it's what really sold me on the service. Proactively contacted about a data import error I was getting? Seriously? That's virtually unheard of. Since my first contact with Greg, I've had the pleasure of discussing a number of things related to Tradervue and trading. And guess what? When Greg puts something on his list, a funny thing happens. It usually doesn't take long before he is able to mark that itme off his list. It's very clear that Greg takes to heart what his subscribers would like to see in the software. If it's technically feasible and is congruent with Greg's overall vision of the software, there's a good chance it at least gets considered for future implementation.

Conclusion
This should not come as a surprise, but I really like Tradervue. It just gets so many things right, it's hard not to appreciate such a fantastic service. And I truly believe Greg strives to make it an indispensible tool for traders. Everyone always wants the best charting software for the markets; doesn't the market of YOU deserve the best software to analyze and present YOUR data?

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@omni72, can you comment on the trade grouping for futures trading? Have you used it? (scaling in/out, grouping as 1 trade).

Also, can you comment on the liquidity feature for futures trades? I forgot to ask him how this is implemented, if he is using a flag in the exported data from the platform to indicate if it was a limit or market order, or if he is really looking at real time data for that market to see if the trade was filled immediately or if it was on the book.

I see that you use Sierra Chart, so can you tell me if everything exports correctly and if there are any missing data gaps or holes (something that Sierra isn't supporting, etc)?

I have multiple copies of Sierra Chart running. One for charts, and others for execution thru multiple brokers. I am wondering if you can comment on how tying these separate reports together would work. I would like to just add a 'tag' to indicate which broker the trade was placed with, and I guess I would just export one report per broker and import into Tradervue, but I wonder if it causes any trouble with overlapping trades and etc. Also, sometimes I trade the same instrument with two different brokers, one as a day trade and one as a swing trade, so I wonder how it would deal with that.

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Excellent questions, @Big Mike. I'll tackle them inline:


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@omni72, can you comment on the trade grouping for futures trading? Have you used it? (scaling in/out, grouping as 1 trade).



For comparison, I've attached a screenshot of some trades imported using each available grouping method: Normal, Merged, and Split.



For me, Split works the best. I do think the ability to track the individual legs of a trade would be a potentially useful addition. I'd be curious to see how the three different grouping methods play out for traders who swing a bigger stick.


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Also, can you comment on the liquidity feature for futures trades? I forgot to ask him how this is implemented, if he is using a flag in the exported data from the platform to indicate if it was a limit or market order, or if he is really looking at real time data for that market to see if the trade was filled immediately or if it was on the book.

Here is a link to the info page on the Liquidity Reports: Tradervue | Liquidity Reports. This one's pretty easy to comment on: I haven't used them as they are currently designed for equities trades. Below is a snippet from that info page describing the logic:




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I see that you use Sierra Chart, so can you tell me if everything exports correctly and if there are any missing data gaps or holes (something that Sierra isn't supporting, etc)?

Funny you mention SC. If you go to the Import Trades section and click on the drop down, you will find something a little interesting. Among the supported brokers/platforms is OEC, Sierra, and Sierra (OEC). I helped discover the need for the last one Since I was using Sierra with OEC, that is the only one I can speak to and it imported everything as expected.


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I have multiple copies of Sierra Chart running. One for charts, and others for execution thru multiple brokers. I am wondering if you can comment on how tying these separate reports together would work. I would like to just add a 'tag' to indicate which broker the trade was placed with, and I guess I would just export one report per broker and import into Tradervue, but I wonder if it causes any trouble with overlapping trades and etc. Also, sometimes I trade the same instrument with two different brokers, one as a day trade and one as a swing trade, so I wonder how it would deal with that.

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That, my friend, is out of my current league Conceptually, I understand what you are asking, but I don't have expertise or experience in those situations to comment. However, I'm certain Greg would be happy to address the current/planned feasibility of the scenarios you described.

Also, I wanted to take a quick moment to expand on a couple things regarding some of the available features and my use of Tradervue. Your question regarding the Liquidity Reports helped remind me that some features/reports are only available for equity trades. It may be useful to keep in mind that Greg started Tradervue as a tool for equity traders. Even today, if you go to the Shared section of the site, you'll notice the majority of the Top 100 Symbols are still equity symbols.

Hopefully, events like the webinar you hosted will continue to help bring more attention (and therefore, features) to futures, options, and eventually Forex. I didn't mention it in my review because it doesn't really impact how I use the site/software. But, in fairness to those who may be interested in equities only reports, I wanted to give the heads up now.

Next is my use of Tradervue. I started using it in the spring (early March, I think). Well, by late-April, I was starting my first combine with TST. At that time T4 was not a supported broker/platform and TST automatically posts your trading sessions to your profile, so I wasn't getting to use Tradervue as much. I still used it some on my personal account, but most of my energies were spent on TST. I never fell away from the software, it just wasn't a daily tool. Then a few days ago in a blog post, Greg wrote that T4 is now supported. JOY! So now I'm getting to add it back as a daily driver

I hope that answers some of your questions and adds a bit more perspective.

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Thanks @omni72. I fired the multiple brokerage/overlapping trades question to Greg and will see what he says.

I understand on the liquidity feature, and I can't think of a way to make it work in futures without additional reporting being included within the platform (ie: inside bid/ask/last at time of trade). I bet Sierra Chart would be willing to add that...

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Anybody familiar with other products like trading-journal-spreadsheet.com? It's a one-time fee of $127 for single instrument or $199 for multiple. That price sure has an appeal over Tradervue $25 per month forever.

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Anybody familiar with other products like trading-journal-spreadsheet.com? It's a one-time fee of $127 for single instrument or $199 for multiple. That price sure has an appeal over Tradervue $25 per month forever.

Off-topic for this thread. Do a search, if an existing review does not exist, create a new thread in the Vendor Reviews section.

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Thanks @omni72. I fired the multiple brokerage/overlapping trades question to Greg and will see what he says.

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If you do separate imports for each broker, and tag them on import with the broker name, that would work as you want. A couple of caveats:

- if you have overlapping trades, you might find unexpected results by default, as executions from multiple brokers could be merged. To work around this, switch the import mode to "Split when possible" - if you do that, then once a trade is closed, new executions will never be applied to it. So as long as you don't have open trades at the end of each import, everything should work as you expect.

- if you have executions from multiple brokers (in multiple imports) in the same instrument with exactly the same timestamp, the execution may be rejected as a duplicate (you'll see a message to that effect after the import completes). We have a special mode in the importer to disable duplicate checking - shoot a note to support@tradervue.com and we can send over info on how to use that if you need it.

And as for simultaneous swing and intraday positions, that's trickier...Tradervue will group those executions together. We have considered ways to work around this, but at the moment the positions will be merged.

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