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BTW Big Mike, we share the same passion for Labs and I know from our other communication that you are a "dog guy" so the family has decided to make a donation in your name to Great Lakes Lab Rescue. GLLR | Dog Rescue Thank you for the value and the tremendous effort you make to benefit others with futures.io (formerly BMT).

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If you really did indeed do that....then thats an incredibly nice thing to do.
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I don't really like the idea as for encouraging people to buy indicators. I want to discourage people to do that, not encourage them or facilitate more purchasing of indicators.

Mike

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I wouldn't say its about "encouraging people to buy indicators"....that sort of implies that every vendor under the sun is going to create his/her own thread and promote their signals to the masses, hoping to capture pools of potential paying customers.

I would say this is more of a scenario where a futures.io (formerly BMT) member sees something they like, and wants to team up with a handful of other futures.io (formerly BMT) members who also likes the same thing, for any number of reasons:

-reduce the financial out of pocket risk (share the cost)
-learn as a group, instead of learning as an individual
-bounce concepts off each other, sharing different perspectives

Lets say you put a trade on, and you have to decide if you want to put your stop at 50 ticks or 10 ticks.
10 ticks dramatically reduces your financial risk, and 50 ticks increases it.
How is this concept any different?

Guess what....at the end of the day people are going to buy indicators anyway.
Whether those indicators are scams or legitimate, well thats another story

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What might be a better idea is if you must have indicators that are custom built and a group wants the same things, contract with someone like me to have them built and you then get them the way you want them.

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I'm not following....are you saying that if we found something we really liked, you could figure it out (decode) and replicate it?
Isn't that simply called reverse engineering?

Or are you saying that if we wanted something custom, like an audio alert or something.....you could program that for us.

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So basically I wanted to know if its possible for futures.io (formerly BMT) members to team up and do a group purchase of an indicator.

For example, if several futures.io (formerly BMT) members wanted to try out a certain indicator, and we partnered up and split the cost.

Just an idea, if anyone has done that before, please post.

I'm assuming, of course, that if its something you wanted to do, you could simply PM the member.

Big Mike, let me know how, and if, this is something you'd be cool with.

Thanks.

I prefer For example, if several futures.io (formerly BMT) members wanted to try out a certain indicator, we partnered up and make it.

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@MWinfrey



I'm not following....are you saying that if we found something we really liked, you could figure it out (decode) and replicate it?
Isn't that simply called reverse engineering?

Or are you saying that if we wanted something custom, like an audio alert or something.....you could program that for us.

The latter...take a look at all the indicators in the downloads area. Those are examples of what I'm referring to. If you want to purchase something like RJay's HybridRenko and then share the cost of that with others, then I would not be a party to that. Products like that which are offered to the public for a price is a problem imo. The fact is that most of those products are protected as was described in one of the early posts. So sharing the cost for purchase of a product like that isn't feasible anyway.

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I'd rather see futures.io (formerly BMT) members "Team Up" to take a basic system (BO type or other) and have a contest to see who can make it the most profitable, using MM etc., with some sort of prize for the winner. (buying indicators is a waste of money)
Sharing different and creative MM etc., techniques would benefit us all.

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I'd rather see futures.io (formerly BMT) members "Team Up" to take a basic system (BO type or other) and have a contest to see who can make it the most profitable, using MM etc., with some sort of prize for the winner. (buying indicators is a waste of money)
Sharing different and creative MM etc., techniques would benefit us all.

That sounds promising. If I understand, we all use the same entry criteria but each use our own MM?

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I'd rather see futures.io (formerly BMT) members "Team Up" to take a basic system (BO type or other) and have a contest to see who can make it the most profitable, using MM etc., with some sort of prize for the winner. (buying indicators is a waste of money)
Sharing different and creative MM etc., techniques would benefit us all.

Hmmm, Battle of the Bots??

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Hmmm, Battle of the Bots??

Yup, that is one of its primary purposes.

https://futures.io/elite-automated-trading/7455-battle-bots-do-you-have-what-takes-win.html

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Well, this thread didn't seem to generate much interest, oh well.

If anyone out there is looking for partners to team up on an indicator, you are more than welcome to PM me, or post in this thread.

On the same token.....I have been collecting a list of vendors that I want to try.
This group of indicators is very effective, but a bit out of reach in terms of cost.

I don't want to publicly list them all (theres only 4-5) because Big Mike might consider that "vendor advertising" so you'll have to PM me and I'll send you the list, you can evaluate them on your own.
I think 3 of them have videos of youtube.

Then if you're interested in partnering up, we can set something up.

Thanks.

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