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Most of these guys are all sharks...the law of averages says so.

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Most of these guys are all sharks...the law of averages says so.


Be wary of the man who insists on selling you his Treasure map ....

I'm just a simple man trading a simple plan.

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I don't post much anymore, but I just couldn't help myself after receiving the attached email (see attachments).
I don't know how much longer the links will be active, but as of today they all work.
I think you can draw your own conclusions...

From an email on 6/15/12
Masonic Code Broken - YouTube

webpage
Mason's Code Broken

Of course all this will not matter after Feb 15, 2013
Feb 15th, 2013 Asteroid To Start Global Financial Collapse - YouTube

the RipoffReport link is an entertaining read.

going back to building my underground bunker now.

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Saw this email ad. Oil trading academy has come claimed to have discovered two codes ( code1 & code 2)
that drive the futures markets.






Oil Trading Academy

https://1stworks.bondwaresite.com/mod/emarket/read/1509/648105/


11-27-12:
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This Tuesday, November 27, 2012 4:30PM EST we feature "Mathematical PROOF Futures Controlled By Computer Program" presented by David of OilTradingAcademy.com

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Saw this email ad. Oil trading academy has come claimed to have discovered two codes ( code1 & code 2)
that drive the futures markets.






Oil Trading Academy

https://1stworks.bondwaresite.com/mod/emarket/read/1509/648105/


11-27-12:
"
This Tuesday, November 27, 2012 4:30PM EST we feature "Mathematical PROOF Futures Controlled By Computer Program" presented by David of OilTradingAcademy.com

TO REGISTER NOW, Click Here
https://1stworks.bondwaresite.com/mod/emarket/goto/10365/1509/648105/
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couldnt resist to post my opinion on that. really the worst crap i have ever seen.

"The Code"

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wow just listened to his video on Forex Peace Army forum

Forex Peace Army Scam - YouTube

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Wow, just saw that video. thanks. FPA does the best service in filtering out hundreds of scam systems and sites. I hadn't realized his "code" has been around for over a year. Should have made millions by now if it worked instead of trying to sell it again.

Well Let Me SPAM You A Secret OF HOW PAYING ME MONEY WILL MAKE ME MONEY

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I attended a presentation from David sponsored by OTC yesterday. I had never heard of Oil Trading Academy so I had no preconceived notions. However, about 20 minutes into the presentation he went on a tangent and started yelling into the mic about how forums, websites, etc. falsely accused him of being a scammer. This went on and on. The OTC moderator asked him to tone it down but he didn't, at least while I was there. I couldn't take it anymore and left a few minutes later. I swear the guy was insane.

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He contends a giant computer controls the markets and if you know the code (which he sells) you can position yourself to take advantage of the markets moves caused by the computer.

Um, sure....

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claims the code is based on trades at certain times of the day.

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@Cloudy is famous Big Mike Trading Forum Scam - YouTube

But then again he states Cloudy and @BeachTrader are the same person, maybe I can get into one of his youtube rants now.

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Yeah, I saw that and had a big rofl fit. He says I purposely put the ForexPeaceArmy topic title on the link. All I did was copy the browser address link. futures.io (formerly BMT)'s forum web code often converts the link into a found title hypertext.

And we're all the same person trying to subconsciously influence visitors to click on the flash ads. Right...

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Yeah, I saw that and had a big rofl fit. He says I purposely put the ForexPeaceArmy topic title on the link. All I did was copy the browser address link. futures.io (formerly BMT)'s forum web code often converts the link into a found title hypertext.

And we're all the same person trying to subconsciously influence visitors to click on the flash ads. Right...

Bro,

You're a Free-Mason? where do I sign up??!?

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Bro,

You're a Free-Mason? where do I sign up??!?

I think all you have to do is post in this thread, we will have to wait and see when the next anti futures.io (formerly BMT) video comes out.

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Just close the thread after this post:

Waste of time and clearly a scam. Keeps talking about this secret code 'the code', the 'code' this, the 'code that. Was such a waste of time.

The funniest part is he trades 10 contracts so you think wow he must know something. Anyone who trades 10 contracts on CL must know what they are doing. WRONG the title bar fully says account : PAPER

He is clearly paper trading and that is not his real account. This is every single video it has that. In one of his 'I'm not a scam' video he is shouting saying how he isn't a scam and shows his paypal it's sad to see how many people actually pay for this and get ripped off. He makes more money from all the people paying him $400 than he will ever do trading. He's making a living over selling how to trade videos instead of actually trading.

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@Cloudy is famous Big Mike Trading Forum Scam - YouTube

But then again he states Cloudy and @BeachTrader are the same person, maybe I can get into one of his youtube rants now.

That's funny! The weird thing is that I never suggested that David was a scammer. My point was that I went to his presentation to hear about his product because I was interested in it. But I became very disappointed that instead of discussing his product, he talked loudly about people accusing him of bad stuff. So he turned off a potential sale by not discussing his product and making several of us uncomfortable with his anger and loud voice etc.

BTW, I didn't realize that ads post inside the body of the forum until I saw the video. I use Adblock Plus with Firefox so never see them. I wish I did get money for ads like David says - but alas I don't. Just like I am not Cloudy. Unless he is a woman living in San Diego. Then maybe we are the same person

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Wow he is really mad now and is going to sue everyone. Lawsuit Coming Against Big Mike Trading Forum - YouTube, he was also busy today made a video going after trade2win as well.

@addchild I think we have finally been recruited as free masons

He claims @Big Mike wouldnt let him sign up for this site because he did not know what an MA was, and he teaches traders?

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Haha - He's totally thrown by the "MA" in SMA/EMA.



ETA: ..."scientists and philosophers….reject, moron…have you bought my videos? No, you haven’t. All the people who buy my videos all love them, reject, moron…there are no people on the internet who say this about me…this is one free mason …cloudy…anyone who calls me a scam on the internet, I’m going to sue you, free mason con artists, right after I shower, punkheads…"


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Wow he is really mad now and is going to sue everyone. Lawsuit Coming Against Big Mike Trading Forum - YouTube, he was also busy today made a video going after trade2win as well.

@addchild I think we have finally been recruited as free masons

He claims @Big Mike wouldnt let him sign up for this site because he did not know what an MA was, and he teaches traders?

YES!! I've been referenced on youtube! I'm f*#king famous now!


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ok punk, go take a shower now

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He lathered up, is out of the shower now and coming to find us despite which 3rd world country we live in.
Best laugh today. Rofl.

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Oh wow, that last video has taken it to a new level.

If it wasn't so sad that honest (if naive) people have paid money to this guy it would be hilarious. His modus operandi seems to be scream and yell and act outraged enough and some poor sucker will think he's so angry and adamant about it he just MUST be for real.

The thing is, I stumbled upon this menace by searching for Big Mike Trading on youtube. One of the first videos in the results list is the 'Big Mike Trading is a scam' video and I don't think it's right that this site's name can be sullied in that way by this delusional nutbag... (sorry, I mean scientist and philosopher who has 1 million times my intellect and that's a 100% mathematical FACT).

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What does this delusional nutbag charge for trading on the sim?
Just when you think you've seen it all.

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The thing is, I stumbled upon this menace by searching for Big Mike Trading on youtube. One of the first videos in the results list is the 'Big Mike Trading is a scam' video and I don't think it's right that this site's name can be sullied in that way by this delusional nutbag... (sorry, I mean scientist and philosopher who has 1 million times my intellect and that's a 100% mathematical FACT).


futures.io (formerly BMT) members should do a couple of things for each of his videos about futures.io (formerly BMT) (there are multiple):

a) Down vote the video
b) Use the far-right icon to Flag and Report the post to YouTube

This should help make sure his videos do not show up in search results for Big Mike Trading, and/or is removed completely from YouTube.

ETA: You can be very specific and include details when you flag his station and youtube should remove him.

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Oh wow, that last video has taken it to a new level.

If it wasn't so sad that honest (if naive) people have paid money to this guy it would be hilarious. His modus operandi seems to be scream and yell and act outraged enough and some poor sucker will think he's so angry and adamant about it he just MUST be for real.

The thing is, I stumbled upon this menace by searching for Big Mike Trading on youtube. One of the first videos in the results list is the 'Big Mike Trading is a scam' video and I don't think it's right that this site's name can be sullied in that way by this delusional nutbag... (sorry, I mean scientist and philosopher who has 1 million times my intellect and that's a 100% mathematical FACT).


Everyone make sure you down vote and flag the video. As funny as this guys rant is, we can also do our part to keep it from dragging bmt through any bullshit over on youtube.


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I found it from google as well, I had never even heard of this guy before that.

Since these videos are popping up when anyone does a search for Big Mike Trading make when you do watch them give them a (thumbsdown or dont like or whatever they call it) and also report the video.

While these videos are funny it is not right they are popping up when anyone searches for this forum.

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I din't know shady rats took showers

Now futures.io (formerly BMT) members should do a couple of things for each of his stupid videos about futures.io (formerly BMT)

a) Down vote the video
b) Use the far-right icon to Flag and Report the post to YouTube

This should help make sure his videos do not show up in search results for Big Mike Trading, and/or is removed completely from YouTube.

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Wow! Just looked at wacko's website and he's been trolling futures.io (formerly BMT) for a while. Hope Big Mike contacts his attorney.

ETA: Doesn't seem like it's anything personal. He admits he hates all message boards as they cut into his profits.

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Wow he is really mad now and is going to sue everyone. Lawsuit Coming Against Big Mike Trading Forum - YouTube, he was also busy today made a video going after trade2win as well.

@addchild I think we have finally been recruited as free masons

He claims @Big Mike wouldnt let him sign up for this site because he did not know what an MA was, and he teaches traders?

ohmigosh, just amazing. He keeps mentioning futures.io (formerly BMT) and the good trading advice forums. But no mention of the lengthy review threads of ripoffreport.com and happierabroad.com. These threads occurred last year and have far more information on OTA. But no, he's just going to pick on futures.io (formerly BMT). These threads have nothing to do with futures.io (formerly BMT). RipoffReport has 420 posts on OTA. This futures.io (formerly BMT) thread only has 31. See the disconnect? No mention of suing RipOffReport. Anyone wanting reviews of OTA can just do due diligence, google search and find them.

Ripoff Report | OilTradingAcademy.com | Complaint Review: 545748

The site admin of https://www.happierabroad.com/ has his own thread of OTA here. Again, nothing to do with futures.io (formerly BMT):

DevilsAdvocate-OilTradingAcademy-David Kuvelas EXPOSED!

And the video on Trade2Win Trade2Win Forum - YouTube I hope this doesn't rag on futures.io (formerly BMT)'s reputation via youtube.

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Looks like the video is down on youtube for 'violating youtube's terms and conditions'.

Justice and common sense prevail!

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Whoa Nelly. Thought I had bad days

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This is just too entertaining. haha

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I kind of wish the video wasn't pulled. It was very entertaining. Also, most people who watched it would have realized that David seemed way out of control and emotional and wasn't making much sense and would have sympathized with futures.io (formerly BMT).

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Looks like the video is down on youtube for 'violating youtube's terms and conditions'.

Justice and common sense prevail!

I'm sure he will make a new video now about youtube being a scam

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Well, well, well. Someone had the heroic courage to finally expose futures.io (formerly BMT)'s insidious Cabal of treacherous Freemasons and denizens of the Illuminati .

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I can't imagine that anyone would take that guy seriously...seriously??? Wonder how many subscribers he has.

Oh it just came to me...he has unlimited potential for subscribers. They are all him?

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Just noticed though his other futures.io (formerly BMT) videos are still up here is a link to his youtube channel Oil Trading Academy - YouTube

There are 2 more futures.io (formerly BMT) videos 1 trade2win and a few other sites I have never heard of. Flag and report the futures.io (formerly BMT) videos and the other ones if you feeling nice. These forums are just providing the place for people to leave honest reviews of trading services which is a field full of scamers. So when every post on the internet says he is a scam what does he do? Try and prove he is not a scam? No of course not he just goes and calls every review site and forum on trading a scam. This is very unfortunate not just for futures.io (formerly BMT) but for every site getting its name drug threw the mud from this delusional "educator".

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I'm sure he will make a new video now about youtube being a scam

you are prescience, check the latest

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Looks like the video is down on youtube for 'violating youtube's terms and conditions'.

Justice and common sense prevail!

haha, i was complaining about that video

this guy has a strong psychosis and should be sent to an closed institution for mentally disordered people

but somehow its funny when he speaks about himself being a genious and getting so angry

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Don't mess with the freemasons Freemasons Have Account Shut Down - YouTube

Warning in advance there is hate speech about certain groups, please report this video as well.

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Don't mess with the freemasons Freemasons Have Account Shut Down - YouTube

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reported

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Big Mike, you're in good company: the lawsuit against futures.io (formerly BMT), and ahem, all the freemasons who are employed by futures.io (formerly BMT), will include Google and then a press release will be sent out.

ETA: He is containing himself very well considering "ALL" his websites have been shut down and sales of the "Code" have ceased.
This is the calm before a meltdown.

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i don't honestly know when i've laughed that hard as

when i heard his diatribe about how it was 100%
mathematically unpossible to decifer the question of
"what does the MA in SMA stand for?"

or when i logged on this morning and saw @mongoose listing freemason
under his name......Thanks @mongoose...that was good

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Big Mike Trading - YouTube

this time he picked my message

im a message board owner .................

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this time he picked my message

im a message board owner .................

I laughed so hard, I spit out my coffee

That video is from Thanksgiving. He's been obsessed with you for months.

ETA: When folks do a google search, you're going to land on the first page, swissie, with that smiley rolling on the floor.

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If we had only listened to the Simpsons..we would have known this already




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Don't mess with the freemasons Freemasons Have Account Shut Down - YouTube

Warning in advance there is hate speech about certain groups, please report this video as well.

This video now says removed by user, maybe he is coming to his senses? I doubt it. There are still a few futures.io (formerly BMT) videos up there on his channel so flag them to hopefully have them removed as well.

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I saw this Big Mike Trading Forum Scam - YouTube video and I feel little a bit sorry for this guy. He is not mentally OK.

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That's the old video from November. It sounds like he has real grudge particularly against futures.io (formerly BMT) which is unbalanced because there were 10x more posts about OTA at trade2win and other forums like FPA, ForexFactory etc. I'm guessing it's because he perceives futures.io (formerly BMT) as an easier target. This paper tiger won't even dare to bother ripoffreport.com which has 420 posts about OTA and completely exposes him and his numerous fake "member review" posts which apparently he tries to do on every trading forum but can't do it here because of futures.io (formerly BMT)'s strict and enforced membership restrictions.

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The moderator at ForexPeaceArmy posted "He did exactly the same thing over at Forex Factory and got banned."

Posted by the OTA guy yesterday on youtube:

"A Press Release will be going out explaining to the world how Bike Mike Trading website is a 100% SCAM, now the world is going to find this out coming straight from a scientist."

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I am proud of myself....I had no idea that I was part of a huge growing secret plot of free masons...that paper trades....and exploit poor little system sellers like this guy-Oil Academy....who have cracked the code to system programs in oil. Damn, and I thought the code was higher time frame, trendline breaks off S/R areas......15 years down the drain. But, at least I AM A FREE MASON. Sorry I gotta go and go find Nick Cage....we have to talk.-Mark

P.S-Sorry...futures.io (formerly BMT)....is a criminal as so am I...I have and FBI background clearance. This guy is crazy......So thru the video I am a living large criminal....please do not let anyone know....not even my wife. If this guy had any brains...show you P/L...then we could see if he is legit. Cloudy.....or is that me...not sure...THE VIDEO WAS LOL! Thanks futures.io (formerly BMT)...thanks for not allowing the system owners to post, now I see why!


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That's the old video from November. It sounds like he has real grudge particularly against futures.io (formerly BMT) which is unbalanced because there were 10x more posts about OTA at trade2win and other forums like FPA, ForexFactory etc. I'm guessing it's because he perceives futures.io (formerly BMT) as an easier target. This paper tiger won't even dare to bother ripoffreport.com which has 420 posts about OTA and completely exposes him and his numerous fake "member review" posts which apparently he tries to do on every trading forum but can't do it here because of futures.io (formerly BMT)'s strict and enforced membership restrictions.

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The moderator at ForexPeaceArmy posted "He did exactly the same thing over at Forex Factory and got banned."

Posted by the OTA guy yesterday on youtube:

"A Press Release will be going out explaining to the world how Bike Mike Trading website is a 100% SCAM, now the world is going to find this out coming straight from a scientist."


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Here's some more in his recent video about Trade2Win.

Trade2Win Forum - YouTube

Claims that 600-700 folks have bought the OTA videos. Reading some of the posts on other forums, a few say the videos claim the "code" is just watching for crude to start moving at the hour or half-hour. Which is pretty generic behavior of CL anyone would have noticed if they have been trading CL for any substantial amount of time. CL can often move at or close to any particular hour or half hour, but how is that anything new. It's just when the big money decides to enter and trade it. (One common and periodic crude event is oil inventories of course.) And one still needs their own method to trade the right direction.

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Looks like he has given up for now, or youtube suspended him. He made a video asking for people that bought his videos to post and defend him but there was no replies, so he removed it. Unfortunately none of the videos of him attacking almost every trading forum out there have been taken down.

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If the insanity he demonstrates on ForexPeaceArmy, ForexFactory,Trade2win, Ripoffreport, on is youtube channel, his website, Happier Abroad Foreign Dating site, etc aren't entertaining enough for you, he has managed to offend folks on Amazon.com...

Amazon.com: David Kuvelas "David Kuvelas"'s review of Asthmanefrin Starter Kit


Read the comments after his post. Nothing you haven't heard before with his disturbed rantings but I just find it interesting that the man pretty much can't NOT offend people and fly off on tangents pretty much anywhere online.

He thrives off of those calling him out and virtually baits them into his lunatic rantings. Interestingly enough, he probably gets A LOT of attention from it all and there probably is a market for conspiracy nuts that buy his stuff. I expect he counts on it. This is a guy that has been internet marketing and spamming for at least 12 years on various garbage before he started with the trading scam material. That is all he really is, an internet spam/marketer selling dreams to the unsuspecting.

Soon he will be ranting about how Amazon.com is nothing but a scam company!

He is very creative in how he chooses to sell his stuff I will give him that

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I hope eventually he recovers from whatever it is that ails him and doesn't harm himself or others in the process--there have been others more famous in other times--but in the meantime this sums up how I feel.

Who said, "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"?


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Dear Yahoo!:

Who said, "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"?

Will

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Dear Will:

This eloquent defense of tolerance and freedom of speech is widely attributed to the French writer Voltaire, that master of liberal philosophy renowned for his satirical wit. Francois-Marie Arouet (Voltaire was his nom de plume) was one of the most celebrated writers of the 18th-century intellectual movement known as the Enlightenment. His tolerant religious and political beliefs were in sharp opposition to established views, and his biting commentaries twice led to his imprisonment, and eventually, to his exile to England.

But the fact of the matter is, Voltaire didn't pen or utter the sentiment you quote. According to a number of web sites, "The phrase was invented by a later author as an epitome of his attitude." It comes from The Friends of Voltaire, written by Evelyn Beatrice Hall and published in 1906 under the pseudonym Stephen G. Tallentyre. Hall said that she paraphrased Voltaire's words in his "Treatise on Toleration," which includes such thoughts as:

Not only is it extremely cruel to persecute in this brief life those who do not think the way we do, but I do not know if it might be too presumptuous to declare their eternal damnation.


The issues Voltaire addressed are surprisingly contemporary and as relevant today as in 18th-century France. Now we'd love to discuss the matter further, but we must go cultivate our garden...


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Thanks for those Amazon posts. If you listen to some of his videos he also takes the high road of Christian beliefs and declares "eternal damnation" on those who speak out about him and calls him out on his OTA dubious marketing. So just the same "presumptuous" sentiment as the previously quoted Voltaire sentence.

He should just write a book or site about freemasons. But I doubt he can compete with Alex Jones to make some serious dough in that market. He would need show sponsors like "silver solutions", "carnivora" extract, or emergency food rations, seeds and soaps. He's just regurgitating others' work on conspiracies to distract from review or support of the "authenticity" of OTA.

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This is my conclusion after having read this thread:



I always had the suspicion that they were not swimming, but driven by a secret force.

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I heard once from a scientist that is mathmatically impossible that you are just reading this thread now. Don't you know that everyone in here are the same person, so not only have you read this thread but you have also posted in it on another user account. About the walking fish, the freemasons are going to have to do a better job keeping that one under wraps.

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His recent youtube "video" . Says his 4th computer was shut down and he can't afford another one.
Though this guy was already making millions on his own from using his "secret" code1 & 2.

Maybe he needs a hardware or software firewall and/or clean viruses on his system drive so
he doesn't have to just buy another computer.

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Same stories, just different forums and means of communicating them. The best part "reading" his webinar as shown in Cloudy's post was where he states he now gets physically attacked and when this happens he simply punches his attacker's teeth down their throat and then the attacker pulls a gun etc. He just gets further and further out there in his desperate need for attention.

He obviously needs serious help and while I am certainly no mental health professional, I just HOPE the guy doesn't actually one day completely lose it and cause harm to others. He seems to me to be a ticking time bomb. That is just the image I get after reading and viewing his stuff all over the web and viewing his videos and actually witnessing live webinars etc. I was once entertained by it all and I guess I felt like he would eventually fade away.

He is clever and it apparently does draw folks in though I will give him that.

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That will teach him for messing with the Freemasons

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The "computer" to which he refers taking down the Oil Market probably belongs to Goldman Sachs.

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This is the supercomputer that is used to manipulate the markets. As fas as I have heard it is operated by white mice.


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This is the supercomputer that is used to manipulate the markets. As fas as I have heard it is operated by white mice.



and here are the culprits

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this time he picked my message

im a message board owner .................


Sounds like a man on a mission.

David is going to use his full intellect to expose the forums.

I think the forums should be fairly safe.

I like this video



Where he claims his computers are under attack for revealing that crude is under control of "the machines"...

"I've been working on computers since 1993 and am a professional on them, few people in the world could fix a computer like I can"

That puts me to shame - I've been programming since I was 13, which was in 1983. I always take mine to the repair man, couldn't fix one if my life depended on it.

This guy IS entertainment.

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I watched one of his trading videos, and it was so blatantly ridiculous that I thought it was a parody.

I suspect that he spends time each day laughing about the reactions of people who are gullible enough to take his posts seriously.

So do a little thinking about who the clueless ones are here.

Just in case he is serious, Skynet has him under surveillance. Ming has also been alerted. David is safe for now. Until additional workers are needed in THE MINES.

However, more than likely, MING will end up giving him an AWARD and offering him a position in the Ministry of Sarcasm.

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At 1:30 in this video:

Oil Trading Academy Code 2 Preview - YouTube

He supposedly buys .60, but it hasn't printed yet. Yeah, he sure has some kind of intellect, maybe just needs a little more attention to detail when he fakes his trades. Or maybe it's something out of sync with "the code." I'm assuming he has not disclosed to his clients who purchase his stuff that he's not trading with real money? Nothing wrong with sim trading, I'm doing a form of it now; but I'm also not selling anything to people and putting up a phony $10K profit and making it look like I'm wildly profitable to sell BS. People like this get what they deserve for defrauding people, but it sure as hell is entertaining while it lasts. And, anyone who watches this and does not do due diligence and can not spot this, in a way deserves to lose his money for looking for some kind of get-rich-quick "code."

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The site admin of Discover Global Dating, Foreign Women, Expat Living and Freedom Beyond America has his own thread of OTA here. Again, nothing to do with futures.io (formerly BMT):
.

OMG - what is that site????

Seems like an Asian guy promoting trading as a means to travel the world and sleep with lots of hookers.



"How approachable, open and friendly females are in other countries" - well of course they are when it is their job to be approachable.

Just when you think you've seen it all...

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OMG - what is that site????

Seems like an Asian guy promoting trading as a means to travel the world and sleep with lots of hookers.



"How approachable, open and friendly females are in other countries" - well of course they are when it is their job to be approachable.

Just when you think you've seen it all...

Wow we need a thread just for this guy

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OTA guy has been doing a video journal now.

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/user/OilTradingAcademy?feature=watch[/yt]



He also has weekly records posted:

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He says now they (the masons presumably) are "changing" the 'code' "constantly" now, and mentions
Tom Brokaw(?) who has been retired for some time now.


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So, Cloudy; You and Tom Brokaw huh. You guys must be pretty proud of yourselves for changing the code and ruining David's day. Did you guys also cause the Gov't to come out with a report this week showing the US has 2 to 3 times more energy reserves than first anticipated? I never realized ol' Tom was a trader, but a Mason? Never saw that coming.


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He sounds like HAL off 2001 - sort of creeps me out listening.

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This is uncanny... He does seem to fantasize a very different reality than the rest of us. I expect it is because he is a thousand times our intellect etc


I don't expect his room will last very long. He seems to do it for a few weeks and then a lot of excuses and then he stops and then back to spamming his stuff.

Of course, perhaps the scientist and philosopher is working on a Code 3 now for JUST $699 but GET IT NOW as it is GOING FAST!

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He sounds like HAL off 2001 - sort of creeps me out listening.

lol, yes Toast, you got the voice pegged! One of my favorite movies. Yes, if HAL , a more evolved one with emotions, was
actively fighting the mason supercomputers' codes.

I noticed he had a nice winner, of course outside the room. (not during regular hours when the "codes" are active eh?) And the recent video, he actually shows the now defunct "code1" entry points and starts showing how "they" are changing it.

Futures Trading $4,360 - YouTube ; now he has $300/month for signals. then saying he's going to raise the price for the "new" "code2" from $600 to > 1k ; you were spot on Kujo with a new code "3".

To be fair, I actually do believe in nwo conspiracies but someone who doesn't know what a "MA" is, doesn't show evidence of trading skill or methodology except to pick points based on a "code", claiming to know the daily pattern of when and how big money is pushing CL?, nah. Using NWO media points is just capitalizing the hard work and research of Alex Jones, Peter Schiff and Tyler Durdan/ZeroHedge, etc. as marketing, imo.

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New "code 2" pricing:

Futures Trading - YouTube

Says it can net +100 ticks easy, expecting a +200 tick gain anytime soon.

Beware.

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New "code 2" pricing:

Futures Trading - YouTube

Says it can net +100 ticks easy, expecting a +200 tick gain anytime soon.

Beware.

Well the offer is extremely tempting..In fact it's taking every bit of my considerable self discipline to not rush in and get the Code 2.
I guess what's holding me back is the prospect of those pesky, treacherous Freemasons once again changing the code to the Oil market. As soon as they discover that the heroic David has again uncovered their secrets, they will inevitably replace it with a new code. Then what?
I give him credit for taking on this sinister Cabal of Illuminati and Freemasons...but as only one man, even with his genius IQ, he may be outmatched . But I support him fully in his noble struggle against these denizens of Evil.

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Well the offer is extremely tempting..In fact it's taking every bit of my considerable self discipline to not rush in and get the Code 2.
I guess what's holding me back is the prospect of those pesky, treacherous Freemasons once again changing the code to the Oil market. As soon as they discover that the heroic David has again uncovered their secrets, they will inevitably replace it with a new code. Then what?
I give him credit for taking on this sinister Cabal of Illuminati and Freemasons...but as only one man, even with his genius IQ, he may be outmatched . But I support him fully in his noble struggle against these denizens of Evil.

I echo your sentiments. David is on a crusade to make the world a safer place. As they say, one man CAN make a difference.

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"They're the biggest 'losers' on the planet"
Oil Trading Signals - YouTube

Right, good editing. Not showing the secondary sim account and recording going the other way, (and Michael Savage's "smmorgasboard"
and other talk show hosts ripping off freemason ideas from) lol. Notice the 'pause' at the -40 tick almost hit "stoploss" from the start of the video.



Toast, exactly. If they ever make "2061: Odyssey Three" , or "3001: the Final Odyssey" by Arthur C. Clarke as new sequel movies, they need to ask him
to do Hal's voice. (Samuel Jackson is in production plans of "Rendezvous with Rama")

https://www.amazon.com/2061-Odyssey-Arthur-C-Clarke/dp/0345413989/ref=la_B000APF21M_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1367868048&sr=1-7
https://www.amazon.com/3001-Odyssey-Arthur-C-Clarke/dp/0345423496/ref=la_B000APF21M_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1367868048&sr=1-5
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This guy calls people more names, spends more time spamming the web even in totally unrelated forums like Amazon and foreign dating sites, spends more time in forums breaking the rules and getting kicked out, demeans people, makes bold claims about trading that aren't true, only publishes his "winning" calls ever so often, makes excuses every time his trading room eventually fails - and it always does time after time - and yet he has the audacity to call people out for almost all of the very things he does day after day obsessively on the internet. The hypocrisy is just amazing.

He has threatened to sue every forum owner, people posting on forums arguing with his lunacy, and never ONE TIME has he ever once followed through with ANY THREAT whatsoever. He just makes false statements about what he is DOING or GOING TO DO but never does it all the while calling everyone else liars.

All of his ranting is to try to do ONE THING. It is to HEAVILY MARKET CONSPIRACY. There is always an audience for conspiracy and bashing people and that is his mission in life and I am sure he makes money doing it.

If you can't make money trading, accuse everyone else with 100% certainty, that NO ONE ELSE CAN and just ignore the fact he cannot operate a successful trading room for any length of time because the "code" keeps changing all the time and then market only has ONE TRUE CODE now... and it is the long term chart, and it works PERFECTLY, except when it doesn't, and then we just won't put a video up that day right?

I don't know, I guess the mature thing is the take the high road and just ignore the guy but when he makes all of these threats against actual people trying to run a legit business it just gets to me

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"They're the biggest 'losers' on the planet"
Oil Trading Signals - YouTube

Right, good editing. Not showing the secondary sim account and recording going the other way, (and Michael Savage's "smmorgasboard"
and other talk show hosts ripping off freemason ideas from) lol. Notice the 'pause' at the -40 tick almost hit "stoploss" from the start of the video. Oil Trading Signals - YouTube

Hahaha, the way he says smorgasboard - "smorgageborg", I lost my sh*t at my desk at work.

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Calling @Cloudy. He's coming for you this time: Big Mike Trading Lawsuit Coming - YouTube

I'm sure you're shaking in your boots.

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Calling @Cloudy. He's coming for you this time: Big Mike Trading Lawsuit Coming - YouTube

I'm sure you're shaking in your boots.

Btw, David, if you're reading this, I'd like to congratulate you on the 'smorgageborg' of vitriol you sent Cloudy's way. It was super scarey.

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PRWeb - YouTube

Wow, this one is really fire and brimstone. He talks about either being on the side of God or being on the side of lucifer. He's here to serve 'God's people'. Apparantly the concept of being an atheist can't quite penetrate his incredible intellect. He's also been attacked by demons many times.

David, if you're here to serve God's people and protect them from all the evil freemasons and demons, why do you charge for your 'secret code'? Surely giving it away for free would mean all God's people could make millions of dollars from it, as you must surely do, and then you could have a real cult that could rise up and topple the freemasons who apparently control everything!

I don't attest to have one million times the intellect of any one of the world's 7 billion population as you do, but I think I've nutted out the answer anyway: it's because you're full of sh*t.

It's really disgusting that you're surely aware that the only people you're profiting off are those most in need of being protected from charlitans such as yourself.

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Btw, David, if you're reading this, I'd like to congratulate you on the 'smorgageborg' of vitriol you sent Cloudy's way. It was super scarey.

No wonder I've been feeling down the last couple of days. It must have been the bad vibes he sent my way. I couldn't explain why. I thought I was just a "loser" and I'm surprised he still reads this thread. I guess Big Mike Trading is so big now in the futures world, there are a lot of newbies who don't know any better that can be exposed to the "codes". btw, it's really dangerous to the soul claiming to be on Providence's side when actually perpetuating a scam. I think it's extremely presumptuous to call OTA a holy crusade. Trading is very worldly and just economics. The way he said "smorrgasborrd" is from the Michael Savage radio show. Savage often slurs words that way in parody of politicians and media news talking heads. Thanks for spelling it out HitTheCity and Kujo. And OTA is making unabashed use of conspiracy themed material from Alex Jones, CoastToCoast, etc. as irritating affiliated marketing material. Ok, the freemasons are in charge of the higher echelon of the political and corporate structure. But what does this have to do with OTA and the "codes"? Nothing, there is nothing new on OTA about freemasons that is not originally ripped off from those shows.

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I couldn't finish watching the video. I'm allergic to idiots and it was making me sneeze.

BTW: the photos of that dating website are actually photo-shopped...>.>


PS: I'm sure we're all the same people. That's why one of us can be on the west coast and the east coast as well as Europe at the same time!

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My tribute to the man who broke the code


BTW @Cloudy, he has my IP address as well.

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I have changed the names to protect the innocent, but the following may have been an actual email conversation;


GaryD: Do you have an audited track record?

Code Breaker: Hi Gary, I have been trading professionally for over 12 years now, in all that time I have never once seen of or heard of a place that does "auditing" of a traders track record. And I know for a fact that none exists, so therefore it's impossible to have what you are asking for, nobody on this planet has one, and those who say they do are 100% scams by their very nature, fooling and conning people in a professional manner.


GaryD: Broker statement?

Code Breaker: Let me ask you a question, would you show somebody your own personal broker statement with your account number on it?Nobody that I know of would ever show that to another person, anymore than they would show their bank account. If somebody were to get that number they can take trades in your account by calling the trade desk.I'm not here to convince you to purchase my videos, I make enough money doing my own trading and I've made well over 400K selling my videos, my videos are here to help people, not for me to prove or to show my broker statement. And let me say you're missing the whole point here, the point is that Oil is controlled in direction and price by a computer and doesn't really trade, not my broker statement:
Futures Markets Controlled By Computer Program - YouTube
Futures Trading - YouTube


GaryD: You would do better learning to read the footprint with ETH Vwap.

Code Breaker: Clearly Gary you don't know what you're talking about, why are you so concerned? I know why Gary, and you aren't fooling anyone, especially me. There is nothing you can do to stop me, I've already taught 700 people and I'm going to teach another 700, and there is nothing you can do to stop me. But you go ahead and try Gary, I wish you luck.


GaryD: You're right. Thanks for showing me the way

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Nice trade GaryD. You don't need to "learn" the code as you're "one" with the "matrix" code already like Neo!

In fact, the OTA youtube channel posted a video implying the code is "The Matrix":




This is not the first nor the last review posts on OTA. We are not alone in our reviews.

Last year on trade2win.com ; amazingly, the "code" was changed then too.
Oil Trading Academy - Page 6

back in Feb. 2011
https://www.forexpeacearmy.com/forex-forum/spammers-hall-shame/11235-well-let-me-spam-you-secret-how-paying-me-money-will-make-me-money-4.html

old blog post on OTA's site:
Forex Peace Army Scam

many ripoff report posts exposing his fake id postings:
https://www.ripoffreport.com/r/OilTradingAcademycom/internet/OilTradingAcademycom-Possible-scam-to-teach-you-how-to-trade-oil-Internet-545748

update: I just saw the recent youtube video:
; Sorry you got dragged into it GaryD.
Maybe he'll learn how to trade oil from your journal.

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Wow, this one is really fire and brimstone. He talks about either being on the side of God or being on the side of lucifer. He's here to serve 'God's people'. Apparantly the concept of being an atheist can't quite penetrate his incredible intellect. He's also been attacked by demons many times.


Yes, I was warned:



"Just remember Gary there is a price to be paid for rebelling against
God....

But I love the comment about Big Mike Trading, ROTFLOL....

It must be nice being a shill....

David"

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And then there was this one...


"I got you now punk, I've got your IP and now I'm going to do a YouTube
about you and I'm going to nail you with a lawsuit....

David"



Charming.

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Welcome to the Freemasons Gary

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And then once you have purchased the secret code, your identity will be exposed to the trading community. This is just to show how clever you were.

Proof Oil Trading Academy Is Not A Scam - YouTube!

How many members of Big Mike's did you recognize on the list?

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Guys, the best way to combat this, if he decides to come after futures.io (formerly BMT) or any of us personally, is to show our support in the format You Tube has provided; "Like" and "Dislike". I tried to leave a comment but would be very surprised if it shows up, because it appears he screens them and has the ability to choose the ones he wants.

When viewing any of his videos, "Dislike" them (thumbs down). He cannot moderate that and YouTube will show the videos less in search results. Then, when viewing any official futures.io (formerly BMT) videos, "Like" them (thumbs up) to counteract the down votes he submits.

To me, Big Mike Trading is the BEST trader website available. I am still amazed that we can become lifetime "Elite" members for only $50.00, the amount seems trivial compared to what is offered in return. And, it its not even required to be a paying member to receive the majority of the benefits.

futures.io (formerly BMT) provides an educational library of the best FREE training videos I have found, and I have paid thousands of dollars for educational materials in the past. Plus, it gives access to hundreds of donated custom indicators, many of which are as good or better than any that people pay a lot of money for. But most important to me, it is a community, where traders come to share info, to help each other, and a place where we are encouraged to address the real issues of trading, not some code or system to purchase.

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I had the displeasure of actually getting to know David via phone conversations several years ago, when Oil Trading Academy was in in infancy and I knew virtually nothing about trading. When one is in that position, it is easy to get taken in with him as you want to believe maybe he is some sort of evil genius or something.

Don't get me wrong, he was pontificating then about the matrix and masons and God and other twisted stuff BUT a part of you wants to believe that despite all of that, there is some brilliance in there somehow. After all, there a lot of crazy geniuses our there are there not? Unfortunately, he is not one of them to say the least.

So I bought the videos and, of course, upon going over them and then observing the market itself via my ninjatrader live feed to compare to what he claimed, I realized very quickly he absolutely was full of it and simply recorded after the fact videos that just happened to work on occasion, as anyone could with ANY theory code, and sell to the unsuspecting. It was total garbage.

Well, once I learned this, I VERY nicely and gently asked if he would help me understand a few things that I was not getting because my observation was that his code was well under 50% success but I was VERY CLEAR that I was sure it was ME and not HIM and I just needed his help, which he was all too gracious to claim he would give before I bought the videos. I asked to just give me 2 hours, during the market, and I would be watching and he would be watching and he could show me how the market does what he says it does with any consistency. At first he agreed, but then he backed out. But not only did he back out, he COMPLETELY went on the attack and raked me over the coals and called me all kinds of names - very derogatory to mentally handicapped folks - and he went on and on. It was then that I realized I had a real disdain for this guy. He got me to buy his videos, but when it was apparent they were junk, he RELISHED screaming at me relentlessly and he seemed like he could go on forever and he was happy to take your call just so he could do it again and again. That is when I realized he has very serious issues. I could imagine him doing this all the time and literally enjoying tearing apart good people he tried to befriend early on and buy his garbage and once he got you, he ridiculed you for being so stupid for having done it, it seemed.

Over the next few weeks, I found his various rants all over the web and realized he was a professional internet spammer and then through some dialogue with others, we found the rants on the foreign brides site and many others. I also learned he has been an internet marketer for many years and has peddled various other garbage for many years before OilTradingAcademy. He is a pretty sharp guy with finding an audience (folks that are interested but don't know much about the subject matter he is selling and thus the conspiracy marketing) for selling his stuff and as much as he spends a lot of time with lunatic rants, it is almost like he is inviting more and more folks to fight with so he can become a martyr for his cause and get a bigger and bigger audience to pander too because of the conflict he tried to conjure and feed the fire to draw attention to himself. There is a method to his madness in terms of marketing and like so much garbage people are selling, he is not interested in actually making people money in trading, but simply making a living selling a dream with bad information while accusing EVERYONE ELSE of doing exactly what he does everyday.

I had also noted that he has tried to start a trading room at least a dozen times over the years and he always fails at it within days or weeks. This last time it went for a few weeks before he shut it down because the "code keeps changing" which obviously makes no sense. Is there a code or isn't there David?? Of course not. There are actually MANY codes - as it turns out - and he struggles to figure out WHICH ONE it is at any given time... Hmmmm..... Sounds like typical everyday for decades TRADING to me.... Right?

Now he tries to promote long term trading, which, of course, is historically a more accurate proposition than his short term CODE1 that he used to promote was 90% accurate. We all know that longer term charts ARE in fact more accurate by nature. It looks like he will post his occasional GOOD CALL on occasion - after the fact of course - but will not post the far more often bad calls - such is his nature.

I just wanted to post a bit of history here and let folks know that the more we participate in his madness, the more he relishes it and draws attention to himself. Don't get me wrong, it can be entertaining, and TRUST ME he will NEVER FOLLOW through with any of his lawsuit threats, but just know it is EXACTLY what he wants.

As long as you realize that, and realize it does feed his ego, then it is up to you how much energy you put into him. I just like to point out the facts on occasion which is the fact he cannot operate a successful trading room for more than a few weeks, he lives in a small apartment, he can't adhere to any rules of conduct on any forum and gets kicked off, he readily admits in videos he has no friends, you can see his attitude on women in his foreign bride rants, and best of all, just observing his demeanor on his many videos, if you have the patience to go through them, SHOULD tell anyone with any common sense, who and what he is about and he is no trader.... he is an internet marketer, spammer looking to stir up controversy for his financial benefit and use conspiracy and religion to do it. Some of the oldest scammer tricks in the book really

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Guys, the best way to combat this,

The best way to combat a Grade A Nutjob is to leave him to his lunacy, and to understand that we cannot comprehend the true psychosis of his mind that leads him to such behavior. And to let the next poor 700 souls part with their money the same as the first, for their naivete--as one radio host calls money spent this way, think of it as a "stupid tax."

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I agree with josh. It's been entertaining and I have had more than a few chuckles at David's expense watching some of his videos that were mentioned on futures.io (formerly BMT). But this guy has some serious mental issues and I hope that we don't go too far poking someone that has only one response - delusional paranoia. Although I hope this thread remains open forever :-) I guess I also am more sensitive to any problems it might cause Big Mike if this nutjob ever decides to cause any real trouble. (probably not, his bark seems ever present and his bite nonexistent.) But then again he *is* driving traffic to futures.io (formerly BMT) through his Youtube vids.

His Ego and insecurity are his own worst enemy.

BTW, I clicked on another video on YT talking about $1700 gold (just because it had a cute girl in the thumbnail - I'm such a sucker), right next to the one GaryD mentioned. In the comments "Rollyboy123" (David) was shilling another site called goldtradingacademy since 2010 with the same spiel (and long abandoned I suppose - when he ran out of marks). He seemed to like to push it in the comment sections on a lot of gold and poker YT videos.

So there is another site for the CTFC to shut down.

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