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 dlatbm 
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Has anyone used their training?

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Has anyone used their training?

Nope. Not me.

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Nope. Not me.

?? are you trying to clock up your entries?

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I attended the class room a few times this week using a free week trial.

I thought the instructor was easy to understand and clearly explained what he was doing. They use demand and supply area to setup trades. They have an indicator to plot the demand and supply areas.

There method is easy to understand and easy to spot the setups.

The down side for me? Unless I am misunderstanding something, it seems like you get to use the indicators only as long as you are a member of the class room. At $299 a month, that gets to be one expensive indicator.

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They seem to play in the same league than apazones

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They seem to play in the same league than apazones

Thanks, just looked at the web site and it does look a lot a like. Better pricing too.

What I would really like is to find an indicator on this site that does something similar.

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Thanks, just looked at the web site and it does look a lot a like. Better pricing too.

What I would really like is to find an indicator on this site that does something similar.


Trend,

Between apazones and pure financial, did you find anything that could help all of us trade? Its been a looooong time since your free trial and you havent said anything. That is either really good, or really bad. -)

I personally dont buy all that confluence of supply and demand area stuff. All these supposed tape reading guys and guys who are "former" floor traders all claim they learned that in the pit. So why are they selling it to us? Anyway, to me, its easier to just use fibonacci levels for 3 different time frames, which if you guys look at my past posts here, I have been championing this as the way to go, the best way to go in figuring price targets, at the very least. Personally I watched their video and wouldnt be surprised if fib levels made up over 50% of this indicator combined with volume. Not totally off topic, here is a question for the crowd here: IF YOU SAW THAT A STOCK HAD THE HIGHEST VOLUME AT A PRICE OF $25.40 AND HAD BOUNCED OF THAT PRICE 3 TIMES ALREADY IN 2 WEEKS HOLDING AS SUPPORT. nOW ITS ON ITS WAY THERE AGAIN , WOULD YOU TAKE THE VIEW 1-there are plenty of sellers and buyers both at that level to give the stock a bounce once again or 2-interest at that level has already been soaked up as either big sellers got out or in(we dont know which, do we???) at around that number.) Me, I would vote #2. All the systems that are volume based would say that that price is acting as a magnet and also support so its safe to buy there. I would bet statistics would show this to be not only NOt BREAK EVEN, BUT A VERY MUCH LOSING PLAY. Why? EVERYONE IS THINKING THAT WAY AND THE BIG TRADING HOUSES KNOW IT!!! Also interest at a certain number 2 weeks ago doesnt have anything to do with an exact number 2 weeks later if the stock had doubled from that price since then. To me it shows something is wrong, not good about that level, especially if bad news came out about the stock or the market in general, you can kiss that area goodbye. I had subscribed to a nesletter called J-CHARTS 10 years ago that monitored volume buying in futures and forex and it was worthless.

Anyway, things could change and this company may not be doing that method. So Im open. Let us know how you are making out. Anyone please let us know.

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I have not used either of the products listed in this thread, but do use a similar product for Tradestation (see link).

TradeStation Supply Demand Indicator


It is a pretty decent S/R indicator for the price & allows you to turn the historical plots on or off.
It also lets you set a higher timeframe, & other filters within the indie, which affects the levels plotted.


The only S/R indies I have found to be better (that I own & use) are:

- Zunaa S/R Zones; uses volume info (no longer available): Tradestation Indicator Zunaa s/r zone indicator

- Historic Volatility Levels (plots static straight line on intraday charts); set & plot these at different Standard Deviation settings: Volatility Bands Indicator Set for TradeStation


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Has anyone used their training?

This is Bill Busby's new biz, the son of Tom Busby out of Mobile, Alabama. Nothing new, just a spin off of Tom's stuff. A not so cheap multi-level training program, nothing more what is already out there in media and books on day trading. If You read Tom's Books, you know what they teach.

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Thanks, just looked at the web site and it does look a lot a like.
What I would really like is to find an indicator on this site that does something similar.

@Chez,

Just plot the monthly, Weekly, Daily OHLC and multiple eSwingRay indicator (30M, 60M, 180M, etc.) on the same chart and you have it. Nothing magic about those outfits indicators for S/R levels..

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thanks alligator

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@aligator

Thank you

I received an email from them and thought to myself what the hell never heard of them

Googled their name and there was nothing in my cache indicating I had been there

Then I noticed the "Share: Will Busby"

I though to myself WTF, Busby

Started doing some digging and found this thread

Busby not a chance - just me and experience (not first hand) with "Busby"

My only experience w/ stuff associated with Mobile Alabama is upsell this, that and the other. Reminds me very much of Better Trades dot bomb

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I watched the NinjaTrader Ecosystem presentation from Will Busby. One if the Q & A questions at the end was if he is related to Tom Busby. Will, the presenter thought it was funny, he mentioned it's a question that has come up a lot very recently. His answer is no they are not related and he has never met Tom Busby.

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I joined a few years ago after talking to Will for an hour on the phone. He does not upsell at all in my experience, and was very genuine. I remember i wanted to go full throttle with his services and he talked me out of it, advising to start slow as I might not get on with his trading style or method. In the end I did join fully and have a lifetime membership.

You do not need the indicators - i never bought them. The material is based on supply and demand and he has a great set of rules on how to apply his methods. If you want a methodical plan, his method has it. He uses daily charts for bigger picture and takes trades off of h1. I have made money using Wills material, no doubt about it. The issue i had personally was that I was still searching for the holy grail, so as soon as I had a loser, I went looking elsewhere. After some maturity I realized my error, and I do go back to the site and see what new teachings he has on there. They are specific to his method, but sometimes they are more general and useful.

For someone like me, looking to day trade in the morning and be done, I found Wills system contingent on setups on the H1 chart, which meant a different way of approaching the market and hunting for trades. Thats really why I moved away, but his method works, is easy to understand, and Will to me seems like one of the good guys. I never had an ill thought about him. A cool guy that wants to help as much as possible - very much liker Peter from Jigsaw. Legit, the real deal. Might be a little pricey is all that I would say.

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Hello,

I'm a member of PFA since 2014, I bought the Platinum membership and I'd like to tell my OBJECTIVE opinion about it.

It is so rare if someone so lucky to start the trading carrier in a financial school or having it as a family background.
Most of us have to walk the painful, long way, trying to find better and better tools and methods to finally become a real "live" trader, hopefully making a living out of it.

I'm not a patient type. I constantly look for flawless, good things, I can't do anything if I don't believe in it 100%. Me and my wife went thru many-many custom tools and systems and ideas and webinars and whatsoever, so after a few years of suffering we had to realize, that without healthy education our way will be a great, unconditional nonsense mass, relying on indicators and raw price action, which I have no faith in it at all.

I wanted to be educated, but we were at the end of our money, wasted on everything we bought at the last few years. I was nonstop looking for websites and trainings for proper education, I had enough of the lagging tools and subjective webinars held by professionals.

We decided to put our last money into PFA, I was very pleased with the concept and his free webinars, on the other hand, it promised the wanted and preferred education.

The package we got, "Platinum membership" was the first big surprise. Besides of the live webinar recordings, it came with the basic, readable must-read-and-understand lead-in education, which makes a decent book if you print it out - it is the beginning to help people understand the FULL concept of the PURE, BARE CHART TRADING AND RPICE READING.

It is required to go thru and understand truly the "book" before you step forward in your package, so we went thru it.
It was scary good and satisfactory to see chart and price reading without any added tools, our first impression was already up in the sky.

The next big surprise happened when we opened the recorded videos, it's years of recorded webinars, hundreds and hundreds of hours of live webinars, EXPLAINING the concept of price reading from bit to bit, down to the very deepness. Watching those videos is like learning the ABC and beyond, his method and his style of teaching makes the heavy and complicated parts so understandable and digestible.

I've never seen an educator truly excellent like Will Busby. It's beyond me, how he can be so specific in full details, explaining pretty much everything you need to know about price reading and bare chart trading, putting the hard parts into transparent and acceptable blocks. He's concept is straightforward, he leaves any subjective elements out of his education and his words not only make sense, but the actual price on the chart authenticates him. (Before we became members, I've seen videos on youtube, where he was trading on naked charts and explained the current movement, predicting the next movement - and he was right! Of course, it was hard to believe what I saw for the first time)

It's worth to look around and find available reviews about Will and his PFA, his reputation is highly high and nothing added to it. I feel lucky to be a member of his school, I must have to say, the money we paid is just a fraction of the full value of the education we got.

Most of us have no time or just lazy to put time and effort into any education and have the knowledge to understand the price movement and therefore to able to predict the next move. I can tell this with full confidence, I had very different thinking before we learned this kind trading.

It's not just being a much better trader, but this kind of knowledge also takes away many psychological negative elements. Without those bad things, we can fully concentrate to the trading and nothing can disturb us and all those negative impacts are just the past. We can make decisions with no fear or doubt or hesitation.

Will Busby himself is a terrific and highly recommended educator, his concept is unbeatable in my eyes and in many other successful people's eye. His school and his deeply detailed webinars are absolutely unique on the education market, because he goes into every single small details, teaches you how to see EVERYTHING what the price tells you.

Finally, i'm not saying that this path of trading is easy and learnable and doable within two weeks. It requires many hours of learning, understanding and practicing, but from day to day, week to week you can feel the difference of being educated, having the capability to see thru all the good and bad areas and you also start to see the story of the chart deeper and deeper.

What is better than the knowledge of price reading and naked chart trading without any artificially added subjective things and thoughts?

I promised my objective and true opinion at the beginning of this post. This is it, without anything added to it.


Best luck for all of you,

Zolie / Los Angeles

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Any updates on this? The review from mozola is suspicious w/ only one post. ptpatrader's review seems more legit, but he didn't stick it out. I'd love to hear from more people who have actual experience.

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Any updates on this? The review from mozola is suspicious w/ only one post. ptpatrader's review seems more legit, but he didn't stick it out. I'd love to hear from more people who have actual experience.

Hi,

That's a great reply, "suspicious"..... after a couple months... If you don't like any these replies, why don't you browse around and find hundreds of reviews about PFA all over the net?
How many posts and reviews do you want that won't make you suspicious? Come on, this is just another good example about people who doesn't want to buy or don't have enough money and they just screwing around with their sour attitude..... I took the time to look around and read the reviews before i bought it and didn't wait for a pile of posts begging me to buy it.

Grow up.

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Hi,

That's a great reply, "suspicious"..... after a couple months... If you don't like any these replies, why don't you browse around and find hundreds of reviews about PFA all over the net?
How many posts and reviews do you want that won't make you suspicious? Come on, this is just another good example about people who doesn't want to buy or don't have enough money and they just screwing around with their sour attitude..... I took the time to look around and read the reviews before i bought it and didn't wait for a pile of posts begging me to buy it.

Grow up.

Zolie

Zolie,

I was specifically hoping for further insight from people in this community who have credibility... meaning they've contributed more than 1-2 posts. I didn't mean to insult you, but the fact that you had only posted once (now twice!) on a specific vendor thread looks like it's someone associated with the vendor and not someone who is actively part of the community.

All the other reviews of PFA I've found (like the 25 glowing reviews in the Atlanta yellow pages), I can't verify that those people are real as I similarly can't find other reviews they've written.

I don't own this thread, but I'm asking for other reviewers, and I'd prefer they be people who are at least semi-active on i/o. I have your input and I've weighed it with my own experience parsing reviews. I apologize if my methods seem immature to you, but vendors do post fake reviews and so I am wary of solitary posts raving about a vendor.

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I'll also add that all the five star reviews on Forex Peace Army are by people who haven't reviewed anything else on that site. Simple google searches can reveal these things. For example a google search on "Jim Gasson, Falls Church, Virginia, USA" forex peace, or your id "Zolie, Los Angeles, USA" forex peace... only add to my cautiousness with this vendor.

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hmm, this one should be vetted through the "tradingschools.org process".

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Zolie,

I was specifically hoping for further insight from people in this community who have credibility... meaning they've contributed more than 1-2 posts. I didn't mean to insult you, but the fact that you had only posted once (now twice!) on a specific vendor thread looks like it's someone associated with the vendor and not someone who is actively part of the community.

All the other reviews of PFA I've found (like the 25 glowing reviews in the Atlanta yellow pages), I can't verify that those people are real as I similarly can't find other reviews they've written.

I don't own this thread, but I'm asking for other reviewers, and I'd prefer they be people who are at least semi-active on i/o. I have your input and I've weighed it with my own experience parsing reviews. I apologize if my methods seem immature to you, but vendors do post fake reviews and so I am wary of solitary posts raving about a vendor.

gumdr0p

Hi again,

Sorry, i meant no offense, but as you know, there are lot of fakes and weird people going on the forums....

I understand your point about being cautious, specially for a $5k education.

I only can tell my/our personal journey: my wife learnt/still learning his method and it's nothing less, then the ability to reas bare chart and bars, no indicators or fancy patterns involved. It seems to be a very easy task, but it requires an "animal", who's willing to learn this, followibg his step-by-step videos. The recording list is now two and a half years long, hundreds of "how it's made", very detailed webinars, talking about one point out the many. You have to put all these little points together and understand it. The hardest part? To think THAT simple to be successful. Because it looks and sounds so simple, but to grt to that point.... Man, that's a toigh one. However, the highly detailed webinars help you get there bog time.

Bottomline, $5000 for this kind of education is kinda like a gift. I have friends spent tons of money on stock schools and education, but they've never received THIS kind of depth and details about the charfs and.price.

If you're willing to spend time and you feel you're capable to learn this stuff, you can't go wrong with PFA.

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hmm, this one should be vetted through the "tradingschools.org process".

There is no review about purefinancialacademy on tradingschools.org....

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hmm, this one should be vetted through the "tradingschools.org process".

i ready the review you referenced. i agree with the other poster you do not need the 1500 bucks in software. his trading concepts are sound. i did not learned them from him. but he knows what he is doing. he has the wright idea. the review was on his auto trading software he is selling with out any prof . i agree on that. but the method is very sound.

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I'll also add that all the five star reviews on Forex Peace Army are by people who haven't reviewed anything else on that site. Simple google searches can reveal these things. For example a google search on "Jim Gasson, Falls Church, Virginia, USA" forex peace, or your id "Zolie, Los Angeles, USA" forex peace... only add to my cautiousness with this vendor.

You (and others) are certainly welcome to revel in your suspicions and cautiousness. However, I'd agree with what Nick (from Chicago) and Zolie (from L.A.) wrote about Will & PFA: that he's a sincere guy who wants to help as much as possible - very much like Peter from Jigsaw who's a great guy and truly cares. He's legit, and the real deal. Also over the past several years, I've spoken with both of those traders (Nick & Zolie). They are legit as well. Will Busby has no relationship to Tom Busby/DTI as some have erroneously assumed.

Jim Gasson
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(I really live here in Falls Church and trade)

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Iím bringing this thread back to life. I got an email from Shark Indicators a few weeks ago that PFA was doing a webinar demonstration of their PFA Suite of tools. I missed the webinar but did some research. Their suite of tools does so much more than S/R and is really pretty cool. Iíve emailed Will a few times and heís very prompt in responding. There are occasional sales on the suite and it sounds like joining the trading room too is a good idea. Pretty sure for $69/month, you can lease the tools vs. buying them. Iíve not done it yet but am watching and researching more. Give it another look if any of you are still looking for a system.

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I would be curious to see how many folks here have recently used PFA? Browsing the net I only see positive reviews but they are not that many.

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