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Jigsaw Trading & Daytradr, www.jigsawtrading.com

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Great innovative software. Gave the trial a shot, unfortunately didn't fit my trading style. Pete even answered my email as to how to remove from ninja. Cheaper than a blind date!

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I actually like the new name!

I am sure there must be some software with signals, I think Sceeto has signals but I could be wrong. My apologies to them if I am.

I think the reason you don't generally see signals is because the tools are for discretionary traders. Order flow is more about getting a read on where the commitment is.

Reading order flow can be one of 2 things:
1 - Icing on your cake.
So your cake is a method of identifying entry/exit points in the market and the icing is using order flow to reject/refine/confirm
2 - The cake
Which is pretty much trading the order book very short term, what a lot of prop shops have their traders focus on. This is using order flow and nothing else effectively.

It's probably the complete opposite to red light/green light systems and so does not lend itself to backtesting.

In terms of coding up a system based on order flow concepts, it is fairly easy enough to do (look up SOBI, Static Order Book Imbalances) so you can test the concepts in real time. The problem is that the backtesting engines in the major retail trading platforms do not currently give you the ability to backtest with level 2 data.

Guacamole and chips anybody?

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Guacamole and chips anybody?

Can I use that????

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JIGSAW TRADING

WHEN JT FIRST STARTED VENDING THE PRODUCT A FREE TRIAL WAS THE NORM, NOW YOU PAY FOR THE PRODUCT WITH A MONEY BACK GUARANTEE, MY POINT IS THE POLICY SPELLS OUT HOW GOOD THE PRODUCT ACTUALLY IS

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Hey there .... Big Jigsaw fan here and there is a video on youtube regrading the latest changes to there products... Check it out.....

Jigsaw Tools Version 4.1 - YouTube


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There is a 4.1?? ....going to the site....


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There is a 4.1?? ....going to the site....

Not this minute. Pete mentions at video end that 4.1 has gone off for packaging and will be with us very soon.

Some wonderful enhancements. Excellent tool and support. (And I am paying for the live trading functionality too!)

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Not this minute. Pete mentions at video end that 4.1 has gone off for packaging and will be with us very soon.

Some wonderful enhancements. Excellent tool and support. (And I am paying for the live trading functionality too!)

Indeed a very powerful tool. And you learn a lot with it about market behaviour.

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I have a question regarding using the tools without trading live on the DOM. What if I just wanted to use the tools..such as the reconstructed tape..for visual confirmation, but did not execute my live trades through Jigsaw's DOM. Let's say I traded my live account, through Ninja..placing orders through the Chart trader, as I usually do...Would I still need a subscription..or could I just buy the indicators ?

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I have a question regarding using the tools without trading live on the DOM. What if I just wanted to use the tools..such as the reconstructed tape..for visual confirmation, but did not execute my live trades through Jigsaw's DOM. Let's say I traded my live account, through Ninja..placing orders through the Chart trader, as I usually do...Would I still need a subscription..or could I just buy the indicators ?

u dont need a subscription....u can just buy them....subscription is just and only to trade ur live acct with the D&S

Ronald J Cutaia Jr

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