NFT Under Investigation!!! (newfuturestrading.com)
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hi traders!
well this whole NFT thing is a mess and terrible...
13 students provided a sum of 1.148 million dollar to henry which means on an average 88000 per person went into the "fund"... a lot of wealth got destroyed and i hope he will go to jail - anyhow - for quiet some time...
i was also in the programm since march but i was lucky that i had not to pay the full amount so i got away quiet cheap... but since the end of the first 2 month in the NFT programm i got very curious because all the things which were advertised by NFT did not happen in the programm. for example there were no different barlevels to reach, there was no supervised live trading with cash accounts provided by NFT, there was no "real" coaching, there were no coaches in a plural sense - there was just henry, there was no stupid certificate, there were no examinations after each level. basically there was just a messy libary of videos that you could watch but those were informative and interesting as someone was able to filter henrys ego noise. in class there always were around 30 people. questions were hardly answered and if he approached your question he was more like a dictator trying to squeeze things into your brain rather than going for deep understanding. i simply came to relize that he had no deeper understanding at all. he just learned how the indicators moved and what the outcome might be in 80% of the cases and mixed it up with NLP weired mentalism language but he had no understanding of what the indicator really is at least he couldnt explain it to you or avoided to explain it.
red flag sign was for me when he started out talking about god and jesus and did bible studies. he was acting like some fukcing guru of the jesus camp. also he always said things about negativity and harming other people will affect youself in a bad way... the usual bla bla bla of someone trying to brainwash you to get into his sect. he once called me on skype and we talked a little about anything as he started questioning my beliefs and told me that i might be lost if i regret jesus and the lord. LMAO. WTF?! we never had a conversation on the phone/skype again since then.
One time in class he told us a little about his private life. Actually he often told us stuff about his private life. Not too much details but still some stories. He told us about his farm (strangly he never mentioned anything about horse-selling) and at some point he told us that the bank actually ownes his farm as he financed it through loans etc. Since than i knew he was a fraud because at NFT were - i guess - 100 students and henry was a very - like he said - proftibale trader which dealt with a minimum of 10 - 20 contracts in the TF. And he always had the big runs. The nuts. So this was strange to me that someone who trades everyday profitable easy and has 100 students paying between 5000 - 10000 dollar still needs the bank to finance his little farm.
after my first two month i wrote an email to henry stating my concerns regarding the credibility and the professionality of his coachings and that the whole process of NFT wasnt even close to his advertised service. unfortunatly i did not get any reaction of him. he just then sent out an email to all students that further request like feedback on historicals, essays, life scripts etc. should be send to different people as he was more or less busy with his own life/project of trading.
I also have not seen him trading live on single time. Not even on a SIM account. I have seen videos where he pretented to be trading live but there was no proof at all. I do believe that he is a good trader - somehow but not as skilled as the would like to be. A student adressed him once why he is not showing anything on SIM and he used his same old story line of avoiding to pick up bad manners because of trading sim and he doesnt want to start out trading sim as people pick up his behaviours bla bla bla.
after that, liveclasses got very little. at the same time the markets changed quiet a bit and got very volatile as the whole crisis thing started out again in the public and people stayed away from the markets. since then classes were held hardly. i think - this is just speculation - this was the time when he lost most of his assets. i guess it was in the beginning of september when his wife sent out an email that henry had some sort of nervous breakdown because "he was working to hard and he needs to rest a little". after a week or so he then put up a video dealing and expaling the ES and he sounded like shit. seriously he sounded like he came directly from the hospital where he just got reanimated. But this video was just online for like two days. I believe when he broke down he just lost it all or a good size of it. As he told us he was trading with nearly a 100 contracts. 1.1 million isnt that much with a hundred contracts. But maybe he just lost it all in horse races. As he also was - regarding the internet - dealing with horses.
this website was also henrys: Fresh Lime Studio
nice layout - looks familiar.
or he could have spend the money on strippers or maybe he just gave it to god.
personally i was never witness of his funding advertisment and he never adressed me personally to put in some cash to let him trade but i heard the stories how it went down. Its really a shame and i hope people will get at least a good size back but i honestly doubt it.
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When I had this strange skype conversation with him he told me that he went homeless as he lost all and everything he got in the markets a couple of years ago but than met some sort of mentor who built him up and helped him to get back on track. He also told me that he actually is from India which explains his strange accent even though his accent doesnt sound indian. But this I believe as heard him speaking a language that sounded indian but I am not sure. He told me than that he lived for like 20 years in the states and then moved to canada for some reason. But because he is Indian I dont really think that his real name is Henry Roche as most indians dont have western names. Also you dont find anything on the internet and usually everyone leaves something in the virtual room. But someone told me that Henry was very strict with photos and he hardly let himself photographed. NFT had this seminar in canada and someone told me that Henry wasnt too lucky to get photographed and asked people not to put photos of him online. If somebody actually had one - please put em online - i would love to see this guys face.
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During summer something was in the bush. As Horst and Julia started to publish their videos on their own blogs and used a different layout to their videos. Instead of "new futures trading presents...." the simply used to say Julias trades or Horst trades... I knew that something was going on. I asked other people but no one knew anything. I also contacted Henry but no reaction.
And then from one day to the other the website was offline without any explaination. I tried to call everyone but no answer. I even spoke to Horst but he said he doesnt know anything and has not spoken to Henry for like 6 weeks. I asked Horst to get me into contact with Henry but he said he could not because he just has his skypeaddy and this wont work. Well - this is again just speculation - but I honestly do not believe that Horst - as he knows Henry for like 4 -5 years (or even longer) - has only just a Skypeaddy and doesnt know where he lives or has not a telephone number or anything else to get in touch. Or at least knows his real name. Even though he advertised Henrys skill and his company on various forums and spoke out for his honour and honesty (just use the search function in this forum). Besides that I dont believe in such coincidents that Julia and Horst are starting their own Tutoringpages out of the Blue and two weeks later NFT is under investigation.
Well and here we are. I am just wondering if Ryan is/was part of the game or if he got tricked in and who the second canadian guy is/was.
I would like to ask everyone who got Information on Henry and NFTI (Real Name, Picture, Tel, Adress, anything else) to post it here. I do believe that we will hear more things about Henry in future because he is a person who seeks and needs attention. I believe his major goal was to become on recognisable icon throughout the scene. widly know as jesus christ. I hope they nail him and all those others being part of the fraud on the cross for destroying other peoples wealth and security.
all the best !
milton
Last edited by ollivermilton; October 17th, 2011 at 06:37 AM.
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in the videos section of NFTI have been a couple of videos of ryan explaining the whole materials like indicators etc... i think ryan used to be a student of henry aswell... but i am not too sure.... the current status of ryan is explained in the allegation statement.
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horst is not involved in the fraud - as far as i know. horst was just a student of henry and is/was a friend of him, but i dont know how deep and serious their friendship was. horst was - as far as i know - never involved in coaching or collecting any kind of payment.
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i heard rumours today that the website will be online soon and that henry is planning to continue coaching for like 6 month. but i am also not sure if that information is correct or reliable. also i heard that the money "disappeard" and was not lost in the market - whatever that means. i heard he is now trading and working out solutions for the current state.
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i had a little chat with horst this afternoon...
it was good, unfortunatly he hadnt have lots of time as he was busy but still we had the chance to clear some stuff out... at least one NFT member is reading my posts and has the interest to talk about it. so horst was approaching me very charmingful this afternoon to get some things straight....
he explained to me that he doesnt know henry that good personal - in fact he told me that he has never seen henry in real live nor does he know where he lives, sleeps, hides or whatsoever... he has never seen his house and he never was at his farm like some other NFT members. nor has he seen any majestic horses or anything else that has anything to do with henry.
i thought they were like tight mates but this - surprisingly - is not the case... horst also told me that he is sitting in the same boat as he gave money also to henry for his fund or project. in reality he doesnt know much as he has no contact to henry... he said that he has spoken to judy (which is a good friend of henry) but there is not much info on that except the ones i already shared here on the forum. he is pretty aware of people being upset and pissed off but so is he. he admited that he saw some dark clouds coming to NFT but no details. he doesnt know anything about the money and what happend to it in detail. i think no one knows. but still he sounded kinda "positiv" towards henry but i dont know... i think he is pretty annoyed but this whole drama as he accidently got involved... i can see that but he is like the major act and the one - in my opinion - who is more around forums etc. than any other of NFT. he added that he thinks that henry is going to return somehow (he doesnt know how) and is trying to work something out so that people will get their money back. but this is not a official statement. this is just speculation and is not reliable. for me the whole thing is done and all i can do now is sit and wait.
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in the meanwhile...
good nite and good luck to all of you!
