hi traders!
well this whole NFT thing is a mess and terrible...
13 students provided a sum of 1.148 million dollar to henry which means on an average 88000 per person went into the "fund"... a lot of wealth got destroyed and i hope he will go to jail - anyhow - for quiet some time...
i was also in the programm since march but i was lucky that i had not to pay the full amount so i got away quiet cheap... but since the end of the first 2 month in the NFT programm i got very curious because all the things which were advertised by NFT did not happen in the programm. for example there were no different barlevels to reach, there was no supervised live trading with cash accounts provided by NFT, there was no "real" coaching, there were no coaches in a plural sense - there was just henry, there was no stupid certificate, there were no examinations after each level. basically there was just a messy libary of videos that you could watch but those were informative and interesting as someone was able to filter henrys ego noise. in class there always were around 30 people. questions were hardly answered and if he approached your question he was more like a dictator trying to squeeze things into your brain rather than going for deep understanding. i simply came to relize that he had no deeper understanding at all. he just learned how the indicators moved and what the outcome might be in 80% of the cases and mixed it up with NLP weired mentalism language but he had no understanding of what the indicator really is at least he couldnt explain it to you or avoided to explain it.
red flag sign was for me when he started out talking about god and jesus and did bible studies. he was acting like some fukcing guru of the jesus camp. also he always said things about negativity and harming other people will affect youself in a bad way... the usual bla bla bla of someone trying to brainwash you to get into his sect. he once called me on skype and we talked a little about anything as he started questioning my beliefs and told me that i might be lost if i regret jesus and the lord. LMAO. WTF?! we never had a conversation on the phone/skype again since then.
One time in class he told us a little about his private life. Actually he often told us stuff about his private life. Not too much details but still some stories. He told us about his farm (strangly he never mentioned anything about horse-selling) and at some point he told us that the bank actually ownes his farm as he financed it through loans etc. Since than i knew he was a fraud because at NFT were - i guess - 100 students and henry was a very - like he said - proftibale trader which dealt with a minimum of 10 - 20 contracts in the TF. And he always had the big runs. The nuts. So this was strange to me that someone who trades everyday profitable easy and has 100 students paying between 5000 - 10000 dollar still needs the bank to finance his little farm.
after my first two month i wrote an email to henry stating my concerns regarding the credibility and the professionality of his coachings and that the whole process of NFT wasnt even close to his advertised service. unfortunatly i did not get any reaction of him. he just then sent out an email to all students that further request like feedback on historicals, essays, life scripts etc. should be send to different people as he was more or less busy with his own life/project of trading.
I also have not seen him trading live on single time. Not even on a SIM account. I have seen videos where he pretented to be trading live but there was no proof at all. I do believe that he is a good trader - somehow but not as skilled as the would like to be. A student adressed him once why he is not showing anything on SIM and he used his same old story line of avoiding to pick up bad manners because of trading sim and he doesnt want to start out trading sim as people pick up his behaviours bla bla bla.
after that, liveclasses got very little. at the same time the markets changed quiet a bit and got very volatile as the whole crisis thing started out again in the public and people stayed away from the markets. since then classes were held hardly. i think - this is just speculation - this was the time when he lost most of his assets. i guess it was in the beginning of september when his wife sent out an email that henry had some sort of nervous breakdown because "he was working to hard and he needs to rest a little". after a week or so he then put up a video dealing and expaling the ES and he sounded like shit. seriously he sounded like he came directly from the hospital where he just got reanimated. But this video was just online for like two days. I believe when he broke down he just lost it all or a good size of it. As he told us he was trading with nearly a 100 contracts. 1.1 million isnt that much with a hundred contracts. But maybe he just lost it all in horse races. As he also was - regarding the internet - dealing with horses.
this website was also henrys: Fresh Lime Studio
nice layout - looks familiar.
or he could have spend the money on strippers or maybe he just gave it to god.
personally i was never witness of his funding advertisment and he never adressed me personally to put in some cash to let him trade but i heard the stories how it went down. Its really a shame and i hope people will get at least a good size back but i honestly doubt it.
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When I had this strange skype conversation with him he told me that he went homeless as he lost all and everything he got in the markets a couple of years ago but than met some sort of mentor who built him up and helped him to get back on track. He also told me that he actually is from India which explains his strange accent even though his accent doesnt sound indian. But this I believe as heard him speaking a language that sounded indian but I am not sure. He told me than that he lived for like 20 years in the states and then moved to canada for some reason. But because he is Indian I dont really think that his real name is Henry Roche as most indians dont have western names. Also you dont find anything on the internet and usually everyone leaves something in the virtual room. But someone told me that Henry was very strict with photos and he hardly let himself photographed. NFT had this seminar in canada and someone told me that Henry wasnt too lucky to get photographed and asked people not to put photos of him online. If somebody actually had one - please put em online - i would love to see this guys face.
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During summer something was in the bush. As Horst and Julia started to publish their videos on their own blogs and used a different layout to their videos. Instead of "new futures trading presents...." the simply used to say Julias trades or Horst trades... I knew that something was going on. I asked other people but no one knew anything. I also contacted Henry but no reaction.
And then from one day to the other the website was offline without any explaination. I tried to call everyone but no answer. I even spoke to Horst but he said he doesnt know anything and has not spoken to Henry for like 6 weeks. I asked Horst to get me into contact with Henry but he said he could not because he just has his skypeaddy and this wont work. Well - this is again just speculation - but I honestly do not believe that Horst - as he knows Henry for like 4 -5 years (or even longer) - has only just a Skypeaddy and doesnt know where he lives or has not a telephone number or anything else to get in touch. Or at least knows his real name. Even though he advertised Henrys skill and his company on various forums and spoke out for his honour and honesty (just use the search function in this forum). Besides that I dont believe in such coincidents that Julia and Horst are starting their own Tutoringpages out of the Blue and two weeks later NFT is under investigation.
Well and here we are. I am just wondering if Ryan is/was part of the game or if he got tricked in and who the second canadian guy is/was.
I would like to ask everyone who got Information on Henry and NFTI (Real Name, Picture, Tel, Adress, anything else) to post it here. I do believe that we will hear more things about Henry in future because he is a person who seeks and needs attention. I believe his major goal was to become on recognisable icon throughout the scene. widly know as jesus christ. I hope they nail him and all those others being part of the fraud on the cross for destroying other peoples wealth and security.
all the best !
milton
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in the videos section of NFTI have been a couple of videos of ryan explaining the whole materials like indicators etc... i think ryan used to be a student of henry aswell... but i am not too sure.... the current status of ryan is explained in the allegation statement.
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horst is not involved in the fraud - as far as i know. horst was just a student of henry and is/was a friend of him, but i dont know how deep and serious their friendship was. horst was - as far as i know - never involved in coaching or collecting any kind of payment.
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i heard rumours today that the website will be online soon and that henry is planning to continue coaching for like 6 month. but i am also not sure if that information is correct or reliable. also i heard that the money "disappeard" and was not lost in the market - whatever that means. i heard he is now trading and working out solutions for the current state.
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i had a little chat with horst this afternoon...
it was good, unfortunatly he hadnt have lots of time as he was busy but still we had the chance to clear some stuff out... at least one NFT member is reading my posts and has the interest to talk about it. so horst was approaching me very charmingful this afternoon to get some things straight....
he explained to me that he doesnt know henry that good personal - in fact he told me that he has never seen henry in real live nor does he know where he lives, sleeps, hides or whatsoever... he has never seen his house and he never was at his farm like some other NFT members. nor has he seen any majestic horses or anything else that has anything to do with henry.
i thought they were like tight mates but this - surprisingly - is not the case... horst also told me that he is sitting in the same boat as he gave money also to henry for his fund or project. in reality he doesnt know much as he has no contact to henry... he said that he has spoken to judy (which is a good friend of henry) but there is not much info on that except the ones i already shared here on the forum. he is pretty aware of people being upset and pissed off but so is he. he admited that he saw some dark clouds coming to NFT but no details. he doesnt know anything about the money and what happend to it in detail. i think no one knows. but still he sounded kinda "positiv" towards henry but i dont know... i think he is pretty annoyed but this whole drama as he accidently got involved... i can see that but he is like the major act and the one - in my opinion - who is more around forums etc. than any other of NFT. he added that he thinks that henry is going to return somehow (he doesnt know how) and is trying to work something out so that people will get their money back. but this is not a official statement. this is just speculation and is not reliable. for me the whole thing is done and all i can do now is sit and wait.
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in the meanwhile...
good nite and good luck to all of you!
I believe when he collected a lot of these funds was when he was trading the 10YN pretty well (ZN). I saw this over the course of 2 months and was impressed how he called the trades. However, I believe that Bernanke's plan didn't mesh with the indicators! haha...
Anyhooo.... I will disclose everything I know in the next post.
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1. Not a fan of Henry. He always seemed a bit 'off' and 'slimy' and the whole 'god' thing always spooked me. I am religious in my daily activities, my fitness, my family, my values and my esteem for life/god, but Henry tends to look for people who need direction.
2. Horst is a good dude and I believe him that he hasn't even met Henry. I honestly don't know why Horst defends Henry so much, but probably now because he wants his money back! I would probably do the same! haha... Something tells me that Horst really feels like he owes Henry something because he has coached him for so long. Horst never really bought into the whole thing like everyone else. I do not believe Horst to be a fake, but he, Danielle, Judy, Roger and a couple others were sucked into the whole "NFT takes over the trading world" speech from Henry.
3. Henry's real name is "Henry Silva" and changed it. Why, I don't know.
4. His numbers that I had are: (905) 244-0999 (416) 720-7694
5. I do not believe Henry to have bad intentions, but like any sociopath, they don't realize everyone else's reality.
6. There were a lot of students who lost their money, a lot of investors who lost their money and the investments were mostly small and some larger investors. I know one that was quite large and he is quite old, so maybe it was a gift, who knows.
7. Henry is unstable and a qwak, but at the end of the day, I would never call him a bad trader. I have yet to meet a better trader in person.
8. He is Portugese, moved to US when he was a kid, had a big family. He was moving this money to an account overseas to pay a smaller capital gains (I think zero actually).
9. He was using investor dollars for anything he pleased. He was paying off investors with other investors money.
10. He is going to be a world of hurt if he doesn't get his butt out of his head. ( haha )
11. Judy is helping him try to get back on track and he is trying to trade out of this mess. (Nothing like a little bit of pressure!)
12. Ryan is a very week individual who worshipped Henry. Ryan just had a baby and practically moved in with Henry to help him with his trading. He was practically a slave to Henry and worked his butt off for him. He deserves better.
13. He has dark features, thick eyebrows, a lot of hair, married a woman from the Philippines who I believe is a good person picking the wrong husband. Not what people would say as charismatic. I watched him one time berate Judy and Danielle into tears and call Danielle's 4 year old kid an 'asshole'. Amazing isn't it.
I hope the investors all get together and get the SEC involved asap. Then they will stop people like this from hurting others.
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hmmmm... my thought, if he was such a good trader, that you have never met any better one in person to date... then his "investors" would have gotten their money back without issues as promised... $1M in cash trades a lot of contracts... your statement is contradictory..
it is called a ponzy scheme.. and it is fraud.. that simple... a successful trader wouldnt need to do such... actually, anyone with any moral compass wouldnt need to do so..
too late, money is gone, no insurance company to go after... it is white collar crime and at best he will get a few years and ordered to pay "restitution" which will never come... the best thing they can do is sue and claim it off in their taxes..
Actually not true. Some of the best people in many industries sabotage themselves. That is his biggest problem in that he wasn't actually trading! New kid, trying to expand a business of being no worshiped.
Per Ponzi scheme, yup.
Yup, I lost close to 100k about 7 years ago from a Ponzi scheme. Money is possibly gone or it will be hidden. I know most of it if anything left would probably be in Portugal.
Sorry to hear about this, I hope the investors get something back but as we all know it's unlikely. I just wonder how common this is, I traded with a "bigshot" a few years ago and watched him go down in flames too. I didn't loose a penny myself because I would never let someone else trade my money but some people did. Later I found out that guy ran off but was caught a couple years later and now resides in a different kind of "big House" other than the one he had courtesy of the feds.
This guy I knew, even though he had some monster trades (witnessed some of them) he had no idea of risk management and I suspect this Henry guy didn't either otherwise he wouldn't be in the spot he's in. So I would categorize Henry as a bad trader if nothing else.
Could be, but all speculation and we may never know!!! hahha...
I guess it isn't funny to others.
I have a hunch it was just from not trading, but maybe I am wrong. I hope so especially because he is trying to trade his way out!
Only time will tell right...
I am glad you were wise enough to watch from the sidelines. Much like I did. At the end of the day, everyone can blame my wife as I almost turned him in a little bit over a year ago, but my wife (being Japanese) said I should ruffle anyone's feathers.
Japanese people would watch someone get raped in the street and just keep walking. The tall nail gets pounded in, crazy to me, but seems to work for them.
bluemele thanks for your posting!
very informative!
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henry silva! i knew it... i knew that he isnt using his real name and i had the impression that he is not from india...
cool!
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do you know anything about that majestic horses crap? was he dealing with horses besides trading?
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do you have a picture where we can see henry?
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so it was always planned to let the money disappear or was this just a logical outcome because of the chaotic structure of henry?
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for all those interested - this is ryan fontaine: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000909424098
Silva , sounds like that actor in Chuck Norris' "Code of Silence" or whatever.
Sounds like a scam. Another one like Rockwell Trading. And another ponzi scheme. CNBC shows these special reports of ponzi schemes. This sounded just like one of those tv specials. Where the guy or an affliate kept saying there was no information yet. Sorry these folks lost their money; hope the feds help get some of it back.
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American Greed is the show I think. I saw a great one a few weeks back! I like that show!
I don't think Henry's intent was to piss away his life. But that dude is definitely up/down/all around. Chaotic by nature absolutely!!!
I do not have a picture and I do not feel that until they are proven guilty that anyone should post their faces, but just my opinion. They deserve to be heard by a court of law and I hope it comes soon.
Yes, that's the show! American Greed. I don't usually watch cop shows, but this one is just so hilarious and disgusting at the same time. I recall the show where a failed floor trader became a bank robber after being wiped out on the floor. News Headlines They also showcase the big frauds and meltdowns like Enron and the insane shenanigans of the individuals involved.
out of which historical period were you quoting that....Japanese people would watch someone get raped in the street and just keep walking....?
or am i just a rip van winkle, just awoken from my long historical sleep in eden....?
my earnest salute to your very wise, enduring and long suffering better half.... K?
on other points concerning 'henry' et al.... i pretty much agree with your observation.
that reminds me of another supposedly teaching guru, also charging some 8,000 usd on forum here who always trades in his room on sim on 2 contracts.... with just too many reasons why he does not want to go on live, too many reasons a live trader cares to listen to.
though in all fairness, he appeared to know how to trade with his own setup. but then again, his setup was pretty much similar to another teaching guru who readily claimed proprietorship of certain indicators belonging to another avid bmt member here. well, such similar sad story goes on and on. won't want to wear out anyone's grace and patience here. thx for listening everyone.
my parting thought.... if you can not trade your own assets, then just keep them to yourself; never let other trades your assets for you or on your behalf.... is my simple mindedness.
true.... never let others trade your assets... espeacily strangers...
but what i have seen so far was that NFT was very well in pretending that "we are all friends and a family for that sense"... it was like "hey whatever is your problem, i will help you here is my phonenumber... give me a call anytime..." i guess you get my point.... a lot of people - just my guess - really thought that this one big family crap is for real and then when suddenly uncle henry get along and says: hey dude... listen... i know you still learning but you as many others need money... so let me help you and i will tripple your 5K with ease.... you know... i am your friend.... this was basically - a little overdrawn - they image that they provided.... of course in gods honour...
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what would henry transfer the money to portugal? any hints?
Per Japan (off-topic), read up on Manchuria, Philippines and most interestingly, Okinawa and Saipan but from non-sugar coated books. The culture of Japan is an enigma that must be respected and never understood!
Per Henry, he is a master manipulator. People are greedy and he took advantage of that.
well I would like to listen but if you are having a private conversation then it is hard. Just send a private message, otherwise please spell things out so everyone reading this forum can benefit. Which gurus are you talking about?
Yes, I didn't intend to 'badmouth' the Japanese. I apologize if I did, what I meant was that the culture is very much about not showing you the dark side of their world. There is no VEGAS in Japan... (Unless you know some people..)
Just like Henry (with his dark side) and that was my point. Not to disgrace or compare any group of people.
I am married to an amazing Japanese woman, and I would never consider marrying American. (I am sure that will upset a great many as well)
This is like deja vu a few back I attended a online seminar for 2 or 3 days. I thought the guy was the real deal had a free chat room, huge house and donated to charities. Even the seminar payment was sent directly to the charity.He never asked for money from myself or friends.
Everyone who has interacted with NFT should take a look at this:
Mateus F. Silva (
Henry's father passed away. Obituary. Name of his oldest son and watch for his fathers real name. When they came to the USA they changed it over for ease to …
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