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Juno Beach
 
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Jam

Will you open this offer to others or just to Tiger.

Love what you do and is hard to get Honest rooms now days and Good on you.

Sharmas

Sharmas,

come in and spend a couple weeks with me, when you email us, just add in that I approved this as my wife is the gate keeper and we get a lot of abuse, even had one person with over 40 email addresses all with the same IP address and name, he managed to be in for 10 plus weeks in a row!

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BigMike, this assumption of 80K autotrader was first brought up by Lornz:
"So let me get this straight... He has an automated system that nets > $80 000 in 4 months trading 1 contract, and a max drawdown of <$2500...." But now we can't verify the veracity of Lornz`version because the origin of said claim has been deleted from this link <JAMAutoProTraderSales - jamthetrader's library>. You know the differences in what one says and what another perceives.

Nevertheless, I was in the webinar today when JAM clearly stated several times that this autotrader has nothing to do with what we are accustomed to see as autotrader, and that stand-alone profitable autotrader doesn't exist. Thus, my junkie mood for a quick fix from trading systems is slowing and painfully dissipating after years pursuing this route.

What I said was, "the Auto ProTrader is not a holy grail, but a tool that can be used to help traders".


All auto trading systems all fall apart over time and especially when you are talking about intraday trading.

Remember what you are trading, a living breathing entity that has a group of participants that all think a little different but has some common ideas as well. This is where we get our edge, when the commonalities come together to bring up to point in the trading day to allow for a high probability trade to take place. The patience in between, focus, and discipline is where most traders struggle and that is what he are trying to help with.

There is no substitute for hard work in trading and no easy way to learn but through hard work and perseverance, and an automated trader will not let you trade and just print money, but instead should be used as a tool in a traders tool box to "help" the trader with focus, discipline and trading multiple markets at once.

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Thanks, Jam, I will take you up on this. As I said, overall I liked the room. I didn't walk away with what I was hoping I would, but I'm willing to give it another try. I'll contact you via email.


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Tiger,

We don't do recaps!!

We teach patience and how to keep your money when you are up! You are welcome to come back in for a few weeks free and see if this makes more sense to you. I will spend personal one on one time with you so you can understand how our room works, analyze your trades, and do everything in my power to have you in a better position very quickly after you work with me! No promises as you will have work to do as well and I expect you to do it!

Please don't let this sit as an empty offer, take me up on this as it is a one time offer! I want every customer happy and while some will never be due to the complexities of trading and the inability for some to maintain discipline and trade with a plan, I do believe anyone can make it if they truly want this and it is their passion.

Again, spend a few weeks, month or whatever you need at no charge and lets get you in a better place, you have nothing to lose

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That's too bad. Jam is basically a good guy. I wish he hadn't done that and understand why you would ban him for that. I wish him well though.

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Gee, what a turn of events. What could be said so bad by either side that things got out of control.

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Yeah, I didn't see anything that could be considered libelous in the posts. People were expressing their experience - not all positive. I think our society is too sue happy.

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That's too bad. Jam is basically a good guy. I wish he hadn't done that and understand why you would ban him for that. I wish him well though.

"Jam" the Trader
&
"The Black Belt System"

.....hmmmm I guy that does not use his real name,.... Is he a musician?,..... a jelly maker?, A Karate Kid?

A bit gimmicky if not competely cliche' wouldn't one say. Can we cut through the fluff...Puuulease, Get real or at least act Normal...

And For a company that touts "Transparency" as stated repeatedly in their numerous recorded videos,......

There are no Personnel or Moderator Profiles or Daily Documented Trade Results.

If they, or any other vendor for that matter, doesn't make the effort openly to provide the above
they aren't for real.

Because, if they did make consistent money they would tout, if not incessantly hype their P&L.

"good guy" just doesn't cut it these days.

Jam?

...you've been served.

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Mike has a good track record and has always seemed more then fair...with all. Looks like Jam stepped over the line....remember Mike has been around a few blocks legally and knows his boundaries....so should Jam. Also, this is MIKE's forum he can chooses who comes and who goes. Like Mike stated keep the post to our experience related to Jam's trading.....personal attacks get no one any place. Good trading


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