stressless trading - Jam's StrategicDaytrading.com - Trading Reviews and Vendors | futures io social day trading
futures io futures trading


stressless trading - Jam's StrategicDaytrading.com
Updated: Views / Replies:25,977 / 99
Created: by tony2604 Attachments:6

Welcome to futures io.

(If you already have an account, login at the top of the page)

futures io is the largest futures trading community on the planet, with over 90,000 members. At futures io, our goal has always been and always will be to create a friendly, positive, forward-thinking community where members can openly share and discuss everything the world of trading has to offer. The community is one of the friendliest you will find on any subject, with members going out of their way to help others. Some of the primary differences between futures io and other trading sites revolve around the standards of our community. Those standards include a code of conduct for our members, as well as extremely high standards that govern which partners we do business with, and which products or services we recommend to our members.

At futures io, our focus is on quality education. No hype, gimmicks, or secret sauce. The truth is: trading is hard. To succeed, you need to surround yourself with the right support system, educational content, and trading mentors – all of which you can find on futures io, utilizing our social trading environment.

With futures io, you can find honest trading reviews on brokers, trading rooms, indicator packages, trading strategies, and much more. Our trading review process is highly moderated to ensure that only genuine users are allowed, so you don’t need to worry about fake reviews.

We are fundamentally different than most other trading sites:
  • We are here to help. Just let us know what you need.
  • We work extremely hard to keep things positive in our community.
  • We do not tolerate rude behavior, trolling, or vendors advertising in posts.
  • We firmly believe in and encourage sharing. The holy grail is within you, we can help you find it.
  • We expect our members to participate and become a part of the community. Help yourself by helping others.

You'll need to register in order to view the content of the threads and start contributing to our community.  It's free and simple.

-- Big Mike, Site Administrator

Reply
 6  
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
 

stressless trading - Jam's StrategicDaytrading.com

  #11 (permalink)
Site Administrator
Manta, Ecuador
 
Futures Experience: Advanced
Platform: My own custom solution
Favorite Futures: E-mini ES S&P 500
 
Big Mike's Avatar
 
Posts: 46,240 since Jun 2009
Thanks: 29,352 given, 83,230 received


Lornz View Post
@Big Mike Would it be possible to add a feature that allows one to hide the "Vendors" forum and posts related to it. When I log-in and scroll through the new posts and see something called "stressless trading", I am not strong enough to resist the temptation to read it...

Not possible, sorry. Just look to the far right column when using "New Posts", it shows the forum so you can skip the ones that you don't want to read.

BTW, the best thing experienced traders can do here on futures.io (formerly BMT) is to help less experienced traders. Many of which are drawn in to the "get rich quick" style of trading through purchasing indicator systems or purchasing automated trading solutions. So I hope you will not skip the thread, but instead choose to help your fellow members and continue to educate them.

Mike

Due to time constraints, please do not PM me if your question can be resolved or answered on the forum.

Need help?
1) Stop changing things. No new indicators, charts, or methods. Be consistent with what is in front of you first.
2) Start a journal and post to it daily with the trades you made to show your strengths and weaknesses.
3) Set goals for yourself to reach daily. Make them about how you trade, not how much money you make.
4) Accept responsibility for your actions. Stop looking elsewhere to explain away poor performance.
5) Where to start as a trader? Watch this webinar and read this thread for hundreds of questions and answers.
6)
Help using the forum? Watch this video to learn general tips on using the site.

If you want
to support our community, become an Elite Member.


Last edited by sam028; August 2nd, 2011 at 07:44 PM. Reason: "get rich", not "get rick" ;)
Reply With Quote
The following user says Thank You to Big Mike for this post:
 
  #12 (permalink)
Fortitudo et Honor
Austin, TX
 
Futures Experience: Advanced
Platform: TradeStation
Favorite Futures: Futures
 
Posts: 882 since Mar 2011
Thanks: 128 given, 703 received

The other thing that always makes me cringe is when someone claims..."works on any market, any instrument, any timeframe, any chart......"

Okay, let's be real here. If you developed a "system" that could be used on ANY chart, with any instrument, on any time frame, and it made considerable profit with dreamy drawdown.....why on Earth would you sell it.

What you're basically saying is...the system has no saturation.

You'd be like the borg. Once you took over one instrument to the point of saturation, you'd simply move to the next one. There'd be no limit to how much money you could make.

"A dumb man never learns. A smart man learns from his own failure and success. But a wise man learns from the failure and success of others."
Reply With Quote
The following user says Thank You to RM99 for this post:
 
  #13 (permalink)
Elite Member
Europe
 
Futures Experience: Intermediate
Platform: NinjaTrader, CQG Trader
Broker/Data: Mirus
Favorite Futures: currency futures, forex
 
Posts: 72 since Apr 2010
Thanks: 36 given, 20 received


Hi,

true sentence. I - try to - do, my employees do, my kids do and even my dog is learning every day.

Thatīs why Iīm happy where I am.


PS: and if you could write this also in 5 languages then you can say dumb. LOL

Have a great day!




RM99 View Post
The other thing that always makes me cringe is when someone claims..."works on any market, any instrument, any timeframe, any chart......"

Okay, let's be real here. If you developed a "system" that could be used on ANY chart, with any instrument, on any time frame, and it made considerable profit with dreamy drawdown.....why on Earth would you sell it.

What you're basically saying is...the system has no saturation.

You'd be like the borg. Once you took over one instrument to the point of saturation, you'd simply move to the next one. There'd be no limit to how much money you could make.


Reply With Quote
 
  #14 (permalink)
Elite Member
Europe
 
Futures Experience: Intermediate
Platform: NinjaTrader, CQG Trader
Broker/Data: Mirus
Favorite Futures: currency futures, forex
 
Posts: 72 since Apr 2010
Thanks: 36 given, 20 received

Did I say "rich quick"? I wrote 2 years and also 2 blown out accounts.

Strange.




Big Mike View Post
Not possible, sorry. Just look to the far right column when using "New Posts", it shows the forum so you can skip the ones that you don't want to read.

BTW, the best thing experienced traders can do here on futures.io (formerly BMT) is to help less experienced traders. Many of which are drawn in to the "get rick quick" style of trading through purchasing indicator systems or purchasing automated trading solutions. So I hope you will not skip the thread, but instead choose to help your fellow members and continue to educate them.

Mike


Reply With Quote
 
  #15 (permalink)
Site Administrator
Manta, Ecuador
 
Futures Experience: Advanced
Platform: My own custom solution
Favorite Futures: E-mini ES S&P 500
 
Big Mike's Avatar
 
Posts: 46,240 since Jun 2009
Thanks: 29,352 given, 83,230 received


tony2604 View Post
Did I say "rich quick"? I wrote 2 years and also 2 blown out accounts.

Strange.

I am talking in general terms - I have not looked at this site or the product.

When I say get rich quick, I mean your latest "discovery" of this solution. As in --- if you found this system 2 years ago, you would be rich right?

Any system advertised in this way, to me spells out "get rich quick". If the system were advertised in a way that said you had to closely monitor it, and constantly adapt it to the current market, it is one thing - but any system advertised as just turn it on and it makes money, to me that is "get rich quick".

Mike

Due to time constraints, please do not PM me if your question can be resolved or answered on the forum.

Need help?
1) Stop changing things. No new indicators, charts, or methods. Be consistent with what is in front of you first.
2) Start a journal and post to it daily with the trades you made to show your strengths and weaknesses.
3) Set goals for yourself to reach daily. Make them about how you trade, not how much money you make.
4) Accept responsibility for your actions. Stop looking elsewhere to explain away poor performance.
5) Where to start as a trader? Watch this webinar and read this thread for hundreds of questions and answers.
6)
Help using the forum? Watch this video to learn general tips on using the site.

If you want
to support our community, become an Elite Member.


Last edited by Big Mike; August 2nd, 2011 at 11:03 AM.
Reply With Quote
 
  #16 (permalink)
Trading Apprentice
Indianapolis
 
Futures Experience: None
Platform: none
Favorite Futures: none yet
 
Posts: 1 since Aug 2011
Thanks: 0 given, 0 received

I was honestly looking to buy this product, but in doing so I always look for reviews and such of the product. Which lead me to this forum.

In short, I have no experience in trading futures, or forex, I know nothing. I figured maybe one of you can point me in the direction of a product that is worth the investment and time.

Reply With Quote
 
  #17 (permalink)
Site Administrator
Manta, Ecuador
 
Futures Experience: Advanced
Platform: My own custom solution
Favorite Futures: E-mini ES S&P 500
 
Big Mike's Avatar
 
Posts: 46,240 since Jun 2009
Thanks: 29,352 given, 83,230 received


Charles View Post
In short, I have no experience in trading futures, or forex, I know nothing. I figured maybe one of you can point me in the direction of a product that is worth the investment and time.

There is no "product" that is going to make you money trading. The sooner you realize this, the better.

There are no short cuts. There are no holy grails.

If you want to become a neurosurgeon, earning hundreds of thousands per year, you have to attend many, many years of medical school, you need degrees, licenses, and a huge amount of hands-on experience.

The same is true of almost any professional career. Trading is no different.

The best resource for information is to read the posts and threads on the site, and start participating on the forum. In a few years, you'll begin to make sense of it all, and you'll have a chance to earn some money if you have worked very, very hard.

Mike

Due to time constraints, please do not PM me if your question can be resolved or answered on the forum.

Need help?
1) Stop changing things. No new indicators, charts, or methods. Be consistent with what is in front of you first.
2) Start a journal and post to it daily with the trades you made to show your strengths and weaknesses.
3) Set goals for yourself to reach daily. Make them about how you trade, not how much money you make.
4) Accept responsibility for your actions. Stop looking elsewhere to explain away poor performance.
5) Where to start as a trader? Watch this webinar and read this thread for hundreds of questions and answers.
6)
Help using the forum? Watch this video to learn general tips on using the site.

If you want
to support our community, become an Elite Member.

Reply With Quote
The following user says Thank You to Big Mike for this post:
 
  #18 (permalink)
Membership Revoked
Oslo, Norway
 
Futures Experience: Advanced
Platform: CQG, Excel
Favorite Futures: CL
 
Lornz's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,198 since Apr 2010
Thanks: 500 given, 1,235 received


Charles View Post
I was honestly looking to buy this product, but in doing so I always look for reviews and such of the product. Which lead me to this forum.

In short, I have no experience in trading futures, or forex, I know nothing. I figured maybe one of you can point me in the direction of a product that is worth the investment and time.

You could start by looking at the free resources at the exchanges, e.g.:

Futures & Options Education for Effective Trading Strategies and Risk Management - CME Group

CBOE - Options Learning Center (Options)

For a comprehensive understanding of the mechanics of the futures market, get this book :

Amazon.com: The CME Group Risk Management Handbook: Products and Applications (Wiley Finance) (9780470137710): CME Group, John W. Labuszewski, John E. Nyhoff, Richard Co, Paul E. Peterson, Leo Melamed: Books

Reply With Quote
 
  #19 (permalink)
Elite Member
Sydney Australia
 
Futures Experience: Advanced
Platform: SierraCharts, NT
Favorite Futures: ES,TF,CL, SPI,
 
Posts: 78 since Nov 2010
Thanks: 6 given, 23 received


RM99 View Post
Everyone wants some extrinsic agent to make the decisions for them, to remove stress.

If you're paying for a room and you're A) successful and B) Actually learning how to replicate the results so you can eventually do it on your own (in intimate detail), then that's great. It's a good bridge.

My experience with the one trading group I was in, was that the moderator used different charts than me, had different platform and there was no video feed, only skype, and so even though the group was profitable, I felt like if the moderator was runover by a bus tomorrow, took an oathe of silence at a temple, moved to Antarctica,....whatever, I'd be left high and dry.

So I set out to learn and discover on my own.

I think groups and seminars and training are great when you're just starting out, but I also feel that eventually, if there is such a thing as intrinsic reward (job satisfaction, pride, sense of accomplishment, etc) with trading, it's only found when you blaze your own path.

Is it more stressful making your own trading decisions? Surely. Is it more rewarding? Possibly. Is it less "risky" in terms of discovering the group or the leader left, died, was sued and shutdown, etc, tomorrow? I'd say absolutely.

Furthermore, you may discover that the trading room you're using is holding you back from profits you never realized you could attain.


tony2604 View Post
Hi trendisyourfriend

Iīm not owner of the room and I donīt get a commission and moreover I donīt know the actual room-fee as Iīm lifetime member (as in 2 other rooms).

I informed you about quality. If you use it is on your end.

PS: trendisyourfriend untill the end, and this only 20% of the time, Barry says (great teacher too, other room)

Greetings

Tony,
this guy a makes sensible point - What happens if JAM is affected by any of these events tomorrow, you can continue working with the indicator/strategy but there would be any further enhancements to it?
How many people are in the group?
Thanks

Reply With Quote
 
  #20 (permalink)
Membership Revoked
Juno Beach
 
Futures Experience: Advanced
Platform: Ninja and TS
Broker/Data: Optimus Futures / Matt
Favorite Futures: multiple
 
JamTheTrader's Avatar
 
Posts: 135 since Sep 2009
Thanks: 22 given, 116 received



Big Mike View Post
I am talking in general terms - I have not looked at this site or the product.

When I say get rich quick, I mean your latest "discovery" of this solution. As in --- if you found this system 2 years ago, you would be rich right?

Any system advertised in this way, to me spells out "get rich quick". If the system were advertised in a way that said you had to closely monitor it, and constantly adapt it to the current market, it is one thing - but any system advertised as just turn it on and it makes money, to me that is "get rich quick".

Mike

Mike,

You have never been in the room and I have never stated "get rich quick" nor have I ever stated "just turn it on and make money" I would appreciate it if you would come in and learn what we really do so you will be properly informed. In fact we teach that trading is very hard and hold nothing back during our "free trials" I would expect these comments from the uninformed but not from the "owner and supposedly "unbiased"
Please retract your statements as they are not true!

BTW, we do teach traders safety and focus on no blown out accounts!

Reply With Quote
The following user says Thank You to JamTheTrader for this post:

Reply



futures io > > > stressless trading - Jam's StrategicDaytrading.com

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search



Upcoming Webinars and Events (4:30PM ET unless noted)

Jigsaw Trading: TBA

Elite only

FuturesTrader71: TBA

Elite only

NinjaTrader: TBA

Jan 18

RandBots: TBA

Jan 23

GFF Brokers & CME Group: Futures & Bitcoin

Elite only

Adam Grimes: TBA

Elite only

Ran Aroussi: TBA

Elite only
     

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Trading the Jam way JamTheTrader Trading Reviews and Vendors 152 August 22nd, 2012 05:39 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:33 AM.

Copyright © 2017 by futures io, s.a., Av Ricardo J. Alfaro, Century Tower, Panama, +507 833-9432, info@futures.io
All information is for educational use only and is not investment advice.
There is a substantial risk of loss in trading commodity futures, stocks, options and foreign exchange products. Past performance is not indicative of future results.
no new posts
Page generated 2017-12-13 in 0.14 seconds with 20 queries on phoenix via your IP 54.221.93.187