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 Ben16JP2 
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Does anyone have any experience with www.tradingliveonline.com?

I have been in the room for one day and came away with a positive impression because they trade the ES with entry price, stop placement, and targets posted ahead of time. They also post their trail stop. So they are teaching and trading their method under live market conditions. This is a big plus for me. Today was also a good day for them. So I would appreciate a review from someone who has spent some time with them.

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1. Their website: Trading Live Online

2. Trade2win page: Trading Articles - Authors - Leslie Jouflas | Trade2Win

3. Mentions above affiliation with this site: Bio

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Leslie Jouflas - Leslie began trading in 1996 and left a 17-year airline career in 2000 to pursue a full-time trading career. She has studied many trading methodologies, including Elliott Wave, options strategies, momentum trading, classical technical analysis, and Fibonacci ratios and patterns. After trading stocks and options on stocks, she now trades futures and commodities with an emphasis on the S&P 500 market. She has managed private accounts as well as trading her own private account.

Leslie is a member of the Northwest Hedge Fund Society and has co-authored two books, Trade What You See - How to Profit from Pattern Recognition (Wiley & Sons, 2007), published in English and Japanese and Essentials of Trading: It's Not WHAT You Think, It's HOW You Think (Traders Press, 2006), and has many published articles for such publications as Trader's Journal, Active Trader, and Technical Analysis of Stocks & Commodities.

In addition she teaches live workshops and webinars providing ongoing education for traders.

Leslie founded Trading Live Online website which is an educational website and live trading room where traders learn real time trading skills. The website also offers the Trading Live Online Mastery Coaching programs for traders wanting to learn a proven trading method, learn a process to increase trading skills, and learn to trade to achieve consistent results.

Leslie also has a blog on her website and welcomes comments and suggestions by readers. Please visit her at Trading Live Online or find her on twitter under spdaytrader at https://www.twitter.com/

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5. blog Trading Live Online --- hasn't been updated in quite some time

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Does anyone have any experience with www.tradingliveonline.com?

I have been in the room for one day and came away with a positive impression because they trade the ES with entry price, stop placement, and targets posted ahead of time. They also post their trail stop. So they are teaching and trading their method under live market conditions. This is a big plus for me. Today was also a good day for them. So I would appreciate a review from someone who has spent some time with them.

Thank you


Please don't take this the wrong way, but you've started countless threads on various trading rooms over the past few months. It seems you are looking for a room where you can take the trades religiously and make money. I would venture to say that no such room exists, there is a reason these people operate rooms. It would be better spending your time researching the markets.

That is not to say that being in a room is necessarily is a bad thing, in many instances it will teach you how not to trade...

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Jeez - I've been in there 5 minutes and got shouted at already.

She called a short on the 6E at 1.4210 - which was a good call. Initial stop at 1.4233. First target at 1.42.

Price moved down & touched 1.42 and she said to tighten stop to 1.4215. I then asked "Did anyone actually get filled at 1.42?". Looking at it - not many people got filled there.

Then I got told off for not reading the instructions (which there weren't any). Apparently targets are fluid and when you hit a target it's up to you whether you get out or not.

Here was me thinking a target was a place you put a limit order to exit!

Since they started yakking about this, price moved down through 1.42 anyway!

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Bo from chicago: good morning all
Leslie: Good morning
PRADIPKUMAR S PATEL from United States: GM
Kevin Deegan from las vegas: good morning
Steve: S&P...1.27 Sell...1320.00...5 Point Stop
Steve: We strongly suggest that traders have a solid knowledge of this trading method and practice in simulator before committing real funds.
Steve: Can use "Fit Screen" or "Actual Size" or "Maximize" in upper right of your browser to adjust chart size. Also, F11 will enlarge the charts.
Steve: PreMarket Commentary about 9:15 or so
Steve: Euro...Sell...1.4209...1.4233 stop
Steve: First Exit Euro...1.4200 area
Alicia from NYC: GM everybody
Terry from Colorado: and the "Ben" is talking again at 10 AM
Steve: Take Partials
Steve: Stop to 1.4215
Jeff: Good morning
Pete from Bangkok: you people got filled @ 1.42 on the 6e?
-> Audio telling me off for not playing ball
Pete from Bangkok: not jumping in to anything - just asking if you got filled!
Naveen G from san diego: Leslie I think it may help new traders if there is flow-chart of things that need to be done
Naveen G from san diego: before getting to the Live trading room
Naveen G from san diego: may be on your website
osam from fl: Good Morning ALL
Steve: gm Osam
Steve: Stop to 1.4210
Alicia from NYC: Naveen, if I may put my 2 cents in, the trading room is like a classroom, where we all sit down to listen, observe and hopefully learn a few things. And as responsible traders the onus of the consequence of rushing in without understanding is on us. Please do not take offense about my comment, it is given to elucidate and not to criticize.
Pete from Bangkok: guys - don't take too much on my comment. Target was 1.42, just a simple question as to who got a fill there. My mistake. I personally don't move stops until I get a fill. Note that I didn't get any instructions that said "dont ask abt fills" !
osam from fl: Trust me guys dont let them Send Steve to your House to teach you a LESSON LOL
Naveen G from san diego: Sure Alicia, I dont have any issues
osam from fl: it happend to ME
osam from fl: LOL
Naveen G from san diego: still trying to figure out the kind of room I am getting into , previous ones were quite different..
Steve: 9:30 EST
Steve: S&P Opens at 1316.75

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its a great room! have been there a long time. I think the person may have misunderstood when he thought he was being "yelled" at. Maybe he did not spend enough time in room before asking if any one was filled. That is not how the room is run. They do a great job and its a great place for live trading education!

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its a great room! have been there a long time. I think the person may have misunderstood when he thought he was being "yelled" at. Maybe he did not spend enough time in room before asking if any one was filled. That is not how the room is run. They do a great job and its a great place for live trading education!

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if anyone finds a problem with Leslie Jouflas and this trading room, I will go as far as to say, you're the one with the problem. i have know Leslie for a long time and you will not find a more genuine and honest person who wants to help someone learn to trade than her. if you will spend a decent amount of time on this site you will find that Leslie is a very good trader and definitely makes money far more times than not. as far her strategy, she mostly works off an ab=cd pattern which she has mastered to perfection as well as incorporating it with the fib ext. 1.27 and 1.618. i have participated in leslie's trials,etc., but not a student. the reason being is i learned to trade the same setups she trades from the same person who originally taught her. she was more experienced when i first came in contact with her. i don't trade exactly the same way today as leslie does, but you could not find a better person or teacher than her. the other trading sites that have failed to live up to what they promote deserve the bashing they get, but Leslie is not in that category by a long stretch. if you think her way of trading might be right for you, i guarantee that you will learn it and learn it well and will be successful if you follow the plan.

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i forgot to add in my previous post that Leslie was sought after by Linda Rashke to join her site - and did for a short time. however, Leslie liked running her own show and eventually went back to doing that. Leslie did a lot of the pattern identification work for LBR and is highly regarded by all who come to know her. everyone comes away with the same opinion of Leslie - she's a very good trader but an even better person.

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I can attest to what stocktrade has said about Ms. Jouflas. She is a good presenter, obviously have mastered harmonic trading and is willing to share her knowledge. I knew that from her MTA presentation and the lessons I am going through. Would definitely recommend her to anyone who wants to learn about hamonic trading.

I am also very impressed with her as a person. To learn about harmonic trading I have been considering between courses offered by her and two other experts. In my decision process Ms Jouflas has answered all my questions very promptly and thoroughly. I finally decided to purchase her course. After my purchase, she went the extra mile to make sure the materials arrive as expected.

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Several years ago I had a discussion, really more of a debate, with Ms. Jouflas, as she and I have a friend in common. This mutual friend had come to me for advice and help with their trading performance. As it turns out this individual was a customer / member of the trading room Ms. Jouflas was leading at that time.

So here was the problem as presented to me: The trading method being followed for trading the ES called for using a hard 5 point ( 20 ticks ) stop loss on each new open trade position. The profit target was 2 ES points ( 8 ticks ). The problem was, using this approach with 2 ES contracts was causing a significant and steady drawdown of funds out of the trading account. This experience was especially painful when a series of losing trades in a row occurred. The dilemma for this trader arose because they sincerely believed in the harmonic method being taught, followed the trading method precisely, and so could not understand why the account balance was steadily declining. There was a significant and growing disconnect between what the trader believed should happen and what was actually happening.

My instinctive reaction to that trading plan was less than enthusiastic. I then asked the trader to go back through their monthly P&L statements and tally up the number of winning trades, number of losing trades and total number of trades, as well as the net $ won and lost. Well it turns out the winning percentage for this individual was in the mid 40's, thus over 60% of the trades taken ended up hitting the stop loss. My response to this was to point out this is mathematically a losing approach. I then went on to demonstrate, using the expectancy formula why this was in fact the case. As it turns out if you do the math, risking 20 ticks to make 8 ticks, in the ES, with a $5 RT commission, a trader would need to achieve a minimum win% of 73% in order to simply reach the break even threshold.

The trader then took this information to Leslie, and she then contacted me, and the discussion turned debate ensued. It was not a pleasant exchange to say the least, with neither side giving an inch. She insisted, demanded, her method is consistently profitable because her win% is typically well above 80%. I had to respectfully yet firmly refuse to accept her claims. We left it there and went our separate ways.

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