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I'm right on track to pass my current combine. We have a bunch of very good live traders who have come up through the program and are now trading live and making money. I started doing combines about 18 months ago. In that time I've made some good friends in the room and have been proud to see them move up through the process by passing the combine and reaching the ultimate goal of trading professionally. One of our guys who started about six months before I did and went live in the spring is making huge money now, 3k/day on average. You can't go wrong with this program. It's pretty simple. Show them you can trade in the simulator, prove your stats, and they will back you. It's a very controlled process where risk management is heavily emphasized and practiced. They won't let you lose real money, but they will let you make unlimited if you have the stuff.

Are they teaching you how to trade? What are you getting out of the combine?

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New upcoming webinar from TopstepTrader on Trading Psychology, presented by Michael Patak and John Hoagland:

https://futures.io/psychology-money-management/21828-webinar-topsteptrader-disci...patak-john-hoagland.html

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Are they teaching you how to trade? What are you getting out of the combine?

Learning how to trade is not a simple formula. I don't have time to write a book here or really dive into all that I have learned in all of the many faculties of trading. It's like any profession. If you are learning carpentry you would be wise to sit at the feet of a master rather than just heading out to your own shed with a book and a bag of hammers. Being in an environment with experienced people is going to get you there faster for obvious reasons, think about learning any profession on your own versus in an professional environment and hopefully you can see the logic. No one can teach you how to trade, persay, you can learn a lot from other people, but ultimately you need to learn things that only personal experience and wisdom will show you. If you spend enough time going into the same market every day with a plan to take out x or so number of ticks, you can expect that eventually you will either get it or you won't, it just depends on how much time you are willing to risk. I've spent years in a simulator. Most people outside the futures trading industry would probably look at that and think insanity. I don't know of any successful intraday futures traders who have put in less than that. I think you can definitely speed up the learning curve in the topsteptrader environment. They do offer some basic training classes but the real learning is done by doing and from experiential sharing, and be forewarned, becoming an intraday futures trader is a long term endeavour, only 10% succeed, and of those most put in a few years of intense study. Trading is also like a professional sport, it's intense, though it has the opposite effect on your physical health, until you can manage constant stress, which usually doesn't happen before you gain some sort of competency. It's one of the hardest things you can try and do with your life, if you are young and have good opportunities, you might consider them first. Good luck.

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They allow limited time guest logins to their squawkbox rooms. Very nice looking popups.

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Anyone else on futures.io (formerly BMT) go through this, and care to share their thoughts?

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Anyone else on futures.io (formerly BMT) go through this, and care to share their thoughts?

There is a free trial period, go into the trading room of your choice, they have live and aspiring traders organized into different rooms, ie equities, energy,, metals, etc... in each one you can pm directly any of the traders in the room and they will all be more than happy to share with your their experience...

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Anyone else on futures.io (formerly BMT) go through this, and care to share their thoughts?

I've done it a couple of times. Unfortunately I wasn't ready to advance.

I like the concept of being funded. I like not having to invest equity. I don't feel that it is really a training environment. It may be different since when I did it, but you a required to be in the chat room (sqwack box). They have an announcer like a radio host that gives prices levels and I guess some of the coaches provide what they feel are value areas for certain markets. There is a lot of text chat going on. I find the text chat distracting as well as the commentary, so I used to enter the room and didn't listen. I always felt the trading required focus and attention and they are talking and chatting away.

The platform at the time, and I believe still is T4. I didn't use the charting, but we are required to trade from it. I felt the DOM is awful. They say its state of the art, and maybe I don't know it wall enough, but I found it unfriendly compared to a Ninja DOM. I have not been able to find a way to set multiple targets and for setting a stop versus a limit etc one needs to click a button first.

All in all if you want to trade, don't have money to trade with and don't want to have to put up equity, I think it's a good thing to do. They are looking for discipline. Maybe that's why I have not made it.

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Just noticed they post a fair amount of live interviews with traders once they accept them into their program and fund them:

Where Talent Meets Opportunity - YouTube

For example, here is the newest one:



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Interesting, they are adding Ninja? I'm not sure I followed what Michael was saying. Anyone have info? If not I will try to remember to ask during Tuesday's futures.io (formerly BMT) webinar.



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Need help?
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2) Start a journal and post to it daily with the trades you made to show your strengths and weaknesses.
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Apparently deal (TopStepTrader + Ninja) is in the working:

TopStepTrader.com & NinjaTrader - NinjaTrader Support Forum

It would be good to ask them during webinar anyway.

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