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I took a trial with PureTick when they still were on HotComm in 2008. I used Paypal for the trial because I heard some people had difficulties cancelling.

At the beginning I had good impression of the room, as Alex tried to apply some logic to the markets, and do some pre-market preparation. I didn't know any better. That impression didn't last very long. They were using a buzzer sound to alert people of the trades, which was delayed quite a few seconds. By the time you hear the sound the guy is already 10 ticks in the trade, or so he says. The calls were all over the place, and misleading. Alex would issue a call that goes like "we have a short coming up", then the buzzer would sound, then I would take the short, it was the bottom, and I would take a 20 point hit (on YM). When I tried to ask what the heck was going on, his answer was that I should stop complaining and shop for the best price. Sometimes he would call a possible long, then a few minutes later he'd be like "what an amazing short we just took", hmm, hello?

They used to post their track record on the website, not sure it is still there, I don't wanna look, lol. It wasn't always accurate, to say the least.

The standard answer to any question from anybody in the room was "give it time to sink in". To sink what in? Where can I find the rules? "Oh the rules are in the forum". Ok I'm on trial, I dont have access to the forum. Alex why are you entering this trade here? "Oh, this is what we call a turnpike trade" , meaning run for your life.

What pissed me off for real were bad jokes he was making about members who ask questions. Some of them were terminated because they complained about the BS. He was calling somebody named "Susan", a "Suzy the Pig", "Piggy", making some animal noises, etc... Very unprofessional.

I stayed for over a month as they didn't change the room password, but I couldn't follow his trades, or make any money, so that was it.

All the best to him
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I was in the ES room for over a year. 2012 I bought there package for $2995.00 gives you a reduced room per month fee and a bunch of trading rules and such. I just received an e-mail today that they have a new website. when I went to it two of the moderators Raven Wood And Ray Phister where not on it. NO ES room at all. Raven was the sole moderator for the ES room. I could not follow the trade calls live, hot com 2 second delay. I got all the losers and very few of the winners. I believe the YM room with the owner Alex Wasilewski is the best room. he has less rules and stays focused on the big picture. I did not want to trade the YM because of trading cost fee vs Tick amount. in retro spec I should of taking a look at his room. he is a basic 15 min 3min 133 tick chart trader with 89 ema and 50 sma with 200 sma. they track daily pivots and the 30 min opening range. I paid $250.00 to be mentored by Raven on the phone and he basically said if I am not constantly making money go back and take 5000 sim trades to learn how and train my brain. I got tired of hearing them tell all of us to go back and sim trade for 5000 trades. it seems to be his answer on how to become a winning trader. I will say he was a hard worker and trader, he did try to make the room a teaching room. but with out a written plan. (mine came from Alex and was for the YM.) got my money worth....? I could not make it work.... you can contact me by e-mail if that is allowed on this site. Dana

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I was in the ES room for over a year. 2012 I bought there package for $2995.00 gives you a reduced room per month fee and a bunch of trading rules and such. I just received an e-mail today that they have a new website. when I went to it two of the moderators Raven Wood And Ray Phister where not on it. NO ES room at all. Raven was the sole moderator for the ES room. I could not follow the trade calls live, hot com 2 second delay. I got all the losers and very few of the winners. I believe the YM room with the owner Alex Wasilewski is the best room. he has less rules and stays focused on the big picture. I did not want to trade the YM because of trading cost fee vs Tick amount. in retro spec I should of taking a look at his room. he is a basic 15 min 3min 133 tick chart trader with 89 ema and 50 sma with 200 sma. they track daily pivots and the 30 min opening range. I paid $250.00 to be mentored by Raven on the phone and he basically said if I am not constantly making money go back and take 5000 sim trades to learn how and train my brain. I got tired of hearing them tell all of us to go back and sim trade for 5000 trades. it seems to be his answer on how to become a winning trader. I will say he was a hard worker and trader, he did try to make the room a teaching room. but with out a written plan. (mine came from Alex and was for the YM.) got my money worth....? I could not make it work.... you can contact me by e-mail if that is allowed on this site. Dana

I was in Alex's YM room and its not any better. Trust me there is no way to follow their calls. I have a picture of ravens screen which shows he only trades SIM. post #16 in this thread. I believe Alex does too. I wrote down every call he made for a month and there were no trades crossing my time&sales at that price and time. Or they were already well into profit and could have only been filled minutes before he actually 'buzzed'. IMHO its all a load of BS and just walk. I wish i could prove that Alex only traded SIM also but he never shared the wrong screen

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If the ES room were so successful, why did they eliminate it!!!!
I guess they didn't have enough money to renew domain registration for https://www.hugedomains.com/domain_profile.cfm?d=puretick&e=com so they registered https://www.puretick.co!!!!

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Indeed. It was CajunSniper whom defended Alex to the hilt at every turn. I have been away from Puretick for so long I don't know what the situation is there now.

I hope and pray people wise up to Puretick.

Hi all from Canada,
CajunSniper - is really Geoff , Alex's co-founder of Puretick.com !!!
Yes, Geoff is nice, and the computer guy in the outfit, he and Alex met at another trading site years ago.
Reven- runs or used to run the ES room.
Alex, and Reven - are loud traders, lots of yahoo's and chatter, but definitely not Coaches or helpful traders.
I was in the room years ago for about 10 months.
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Alex- has big stops, enters before he says , and is a very weak-minded person overall. He can't take
any criticism - a BIG sign of someone who wants to be called a SuperTrader, but knows he isn't.
I defended these guys in the beginning , but then caught on.
*
FRAUD, Very selective in posting trades in their Daily Track Record.
*
Try their trial, see how they do.
A sure sign of poor performance is : 1- lots of marketing , 2- if they really ''call'' it right, then you don't need
to know, the fine details, Focusing on the entertainment during trading hours- why not just focus on trading?
*
I guess Alex hasn't figured that out yet ! Quite funny isn't it ?? If he called it right most of the time- then we
wouldn't need coaches ?
Still after all these years, the only way he can keep 115 people in his room , is to keep getting new people
each month !! This room should have 1000's of traders , if he really was honest and Good.

'Nuff said, I could go on, but thanks for listening , spent a lot of money there, and don't want you to lose yours!!
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Thanks also to Big Mike for allowing traders to have their (polite) voice. !
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Hi again Another FYI about Puretick.com:

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'Stretch' is the super trader in the room, he knows and does better than Alex, but he's fairly quiet(unfortunately),
because he is the best one there.
Alex- likes to do Rodney Dangerfield impressions, when he can't find any decent trading pointer to say- which is often.
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Poor Alex, poor Alex- only gets income from paying newbie traders.

Poor Alex, if he would only announce his trades when he gets in ! Poor Alex....

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Wow, you are a genius! Stretch is very good, but how do you supposed an over the road truck driver got to be so good at trading? He certainly didn't take out trial after trial... He was a student of the game, was coachable, and didn't let his ego get the best of him. The only person who is P.O.O.R. (Passed Over Opportunities Repeatedly) is the man in the mirror my friend. If you have ever gone to college you would know, education is not free, and there is no such thing as a free lunch.

Belittling Alex's humor, and jokes just shows how insecure you are. You are in dire need of personal growth my friend.


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Hi again Another FYI about Puretick.com:

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'Stretch' is the super trader in the room, he knows and does better than Alex, but he's fairly quiet(unfortunately),
because he is the best one there.
Alex- likes to do Rodney Dangerfield impressions, when he can't find any decent trading pointer to say- which is often.
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Poor Alex, poor Alex- only gets income from paying newbie traders.

Poor Alex, if he would only announce his trades when he gets in ! Poor Alex....


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Quitters never win, and winners never quit. Obviously you two showed what you are... The education is in the A-Z guide where you will "learn" successful trading methodologies. I have been trading with Alex and he is simply the best I have ever seen Period! You mentioned Stretch previously, yeah, he tried 16 rooms before he stopped cold at Alex's room. Why? Because he is the best!

All the haters in this forum are hilarious! Alex's alerts are a "GIUDE" and he educates along the way. Latin for educate is to "draw out" your own knowledge. Use his proprietary signals as the set up. Oh, yeah there are three hedge fund managers in his room and countless number of others who purchase his data. Don't hate, it's so petty.


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Hi all from Canada,
CajunSniper - is really Geoff , Alex's co-founder of Puretick.com !!!
Yes, Geoff is nice, and the computer guy in the outfit, he and Alex met at another trading site years ago.
Reven- runs or used to run the ES room.
Alex, and Reven - are loud traders, lots of yahoo's and chatter, but definitely not Coaches or helpful traders.
I was in the room years ago for about 10 months.
*
Alex- has big stops, enters before he says , and is a very weak-minded person overall. He can't take
any criticism - a BIG sign of someone who wants to be called a SuperTrader, but knows he isn't.
I defended these guys in the beginning , but then caught on.
*
FRAUD, Very selective in posting trades in their Daily Track Record.
*
Try their trial, see how they do.
A sure sign of poor performance is : 1- lots of marketing , 2- if they really ''call'' it right, then you don't need
to know, the fine details, Focusing on the entertainment during trading hours- why not just focus on trading?
*
I guess Alex hasn't figured that out yet ! Quite funny isn't it ?? If he called it right most of the time- then we
wouldn't need coaches ?
Still after all these years, the only way he can keep 115 people in his room , is to keep getting new people
each month !! This room should have 1000's of traders , if he really was honest and Good.

'Nuff said, I could go on, but thanks for listening , spent a lot of money there, and don't want you to lose yours!!
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Thanks also to Big Mike for allowing traders to have their (polite) voice. !
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Traders are trained, not born. Once trained, do you need to follow?

Write down his trades again, this time with the 7 second delay. You have a brain use it! His alerts are guides, you have to pull the trigger. Stop blaming everyone under the sun for your losses. I recommend reading "Trading in the Zone."


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I was in Alex's YM room and its not any better. Trust me there is no way to follow their calls. I have a picture of ravens screen which shows he only trades SIM. post #16 in this thread. I believe Alex does too. I wrote down every call he made for a month and there were no trades crossing my time&sales at that price and time. Or they were already well into profit and could have only been filled minutes before he actually 'buzzed'. IMHO its all a load of BS and just walk. I wish i could prove that Alex only traded SIM also but he never shared the wrong screen


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