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just received info about this site from a Ninjatrader new supported vendor notification email
interesting system with simple color coded entries and exits.
system was invented by a Beth Fiedler.
Anybody on the monthly subscription? Views?
Can you help answer these questions from other members on futures io?
Dude... I need you to write me some indicators with colors and arrows ... we can sell them... we can be rich ... rich I tell ya...
"Not intended to be a factual statement" John Kyle Senator Arizona
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I am not a programmer, coach, trainer or self appointed guru and do NOT hold myself up to be a good example for anything. I do not have a book, trading room or seminar. Even though I have an opinion on every subject you can imagine, I do not give financial advice. Have a professional review any code you receive from me before you trade real money with it. There is a high risk of loss trading futures. I am not responsible for any losses incurred trading real money with any code you receive from me . Nor should I be held responsible for feeble attempts at humor at your expense in exchange for writing free code for you.
I'm just a simple man trading a simple plan.
My daddy always said, "Every day above ground is a good day!"
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I don't think it's easy making money out there with trading education. The field has gotten saturated. I was the web programmer for one of these outfits, which has been around for a while, and one of their teachers is an excellent market analyst. But they are now struggling, had to slash their fees, and trying to re-invent themselves to try to rise above the crowd.
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I agree its probably not easy . Nothing worthwhile is easy and if being a trading educator is your thing then go for it I say . Given the unlimited and gigantic potential actually trading your live account has compared to being an educator then to me its pretty obvious that if you lack the dicipline to trade live then the next best thing is to help other trades , for a fee of course .
But , I could be wrong since Im not an educator . If educators make > $900 million annual (see stevie cohen) then you have my apologies .
Thanks Beth! This is hilarious! I almost had a brown out in my shorts I laughed so hard.
Chick stumbles onto this site, makes a few friends, grabs the free indicators and calls them her own. Packages them up and rents them for $99/month. Evil Genius...muhahahahahaha. Her little scam is a bit premature, she should have at least posted a string of winning trades. Her journal here does not give great confidence that she knows how to trade well.
All the generosity she was provided here and then a slap in your face! I give her site three, maybe six months before its done. Then, she'll come crawling back here, probably with a new identity and coax a few more friendlies to build more stuff. Rinse and repeat. Hey, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
As G-Dub would say it...Fool me once...shame on...shame on you... fool me... you can't get fooled again.
(you'll have to look that one up because my post count is too low to include a link)
We'll see.
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I am new to this board but is this really what happened here? Beth from the millions thread took someone else's trading system and packaged it as her own or is she in partnership with the author's? If its the former, why wouldn't that be cause for banning her from here? Everyone was congratulating her on thread for her new venture so i assumed it was above board.
Most of the trading systems out there use indicators that are freely available everywhere. Did the Turtles have any magic indicator, to produce their astronomical returns? Or did they just use a new high / new low indication with a trailing stop?
Beth did not take anybody's trading system and used it, but she just modified a few well-known indicators and put them together. That is exactly what everybody does. Those who pretend that they have unique secret indicators are just lying to steal away your money.
I have no clue, whether her system works or not, but it is certainly not stolen from anybody else.
No reason to be jealous. Or did she use any indicators for which the intellectual property belongs to you?
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No she took nothing from me. I was just asking because in her thread she implied she was using the Wizard's grail system from this board or so i understood. I have little issue if she adjusted it for a new system but if she just repackaged what she got from this board and sold it as her own, yeah i do have a problem with that. It may not be a legal intellectual property issue but i certaintly think its a breach of trust and i dont believe anybody intended to share ideas for that purpose. Just my .02. If she is in partnership with the authors, than that be different as well. I figured i was missing something here.
Chill haters. At least Beth is transparent. Those that have been around a while know she means well. There are tons of other websites selling systems using standard indies.
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And just to be clear. If it is her own system even with standard indicators than all the more power to her. I hope she is successful. I think that would be a tribute to this board.
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I disagree. A tribute to this board would be for her to start a new thread with her indicator secret sauce and trading method, perhaps enlist in Big Mike's education contest and simply share with everyone here what she has learned.
If it weren't for the generosity of others on this board, there would be no EZColorTrading. She is a classic Taker, not a Giver. Some see her as an opportunist...I see her as a fraud trying to turn a quick buck. There is also a blog she hosts..."southinkucantrade" or something like that. Well, Beth, we now KNOW that you can't trade, so what are you doing trying to teach others?
Please don't misunderstand. Many people on this board like @Fat Tails write tons of indicators for people and give invaluable advice to them at no charge. Big Mike created this site for traders to share information, and for the most part that's how it works.
No one is accusing her of breaking the law and though we all wish her the best ... it is kinda funny considering all the threads where we debated whether people selling systems or training classes actually were accomplished traders or not ... and then to have one of our own... who's dubious trading record is available in her old thread for anyone interested ... starts selling things that were created for free on futures.io (formerly BMT)... we can't help but chuckle...
Dang it @Fat Tails... if you would just publish some of them top secret things you wrote and selfishly kept to yourself ... just because you spent time, money and sweat equity to build it, test it and use it... I could go make a ton of money ... and not hang out here irritating you all day ... btw... where is that indicator I asked you to change the color , add arrows and an alarm that meows like a cat.... I got big orders for that one...
"Not intended to be a factual statement" John Kyle Senator Arizona
Disclaimer: This post does not represent the view point the owners, managers, or moderators of this web site and is not intended as a slam against any moderator, board member, any banned former members whose name we dare not say, any other living person, any recently living person or any person or persons whose status we are not sure of and especially not for any platform vendor with a questionable product and a pit bull lawyer. This post is meant purely for entertainment and should not be confused with a real thought.
I am not a programmer, coach, trainer or self appointed guru and do NOT hold myself up to be a good example for anything. I do not have a book, trading room or seminar. Even though I have an opinion on every subject you can imagine, I do not give financial advice. Have a professional review any code you receive from me before you trade real money with it. There is a high risk of loss trading futures. I am not responsible for any losses incurred trading real money with any code you receive from me . Nor should I be held responsible for feeble attempts at humor at your expense in exchange for writing free code for you.
I'm just a simple man trading a simple plan.
My daddy always said, "Every day above ground is a good day!"
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@ThatManFromTexas: Come on. I have written tons of indicators for myself, because it is my way of learning. Hundreds of indicators will not make up for a good trader. The indicator is just a tool, if you hand me over your violin, I won't play like Paganini.
There are some guys, who have been awarded US patents for primitive indicators that can be written in 5 minutes and are based on the free work of somebody else. When sharing indicators you may give something, but you don't give it away.
Beth is a nice person, whether she has trading skills or not. Doesn't that count?
I will let you sell all my free indicators for a commission of 50%. If you add a bit of color and your disclaimer, nobody will ever realize that they are my intellectual property. Your sale is subject to the condition that I will be allowed to continue to offer them for free at Big Mike's. And the few really good ones, I will sell them myself.
Sorry that I have not quoted your disclaimer, if everybody does, @Big Mike needs to upgrade his server.
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Exactly. It's simply a innocent attempt to have a go at the vendor side of this business.
Now what we really need... is a thread on how to be a broker like Mirus. That is where the cheddar is made. All these indicator websites are mere child's play.
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I just took a look at the site and it is rather amateurish at best... I mean, if she gets subscriptions, great for her... but if I was a subcriber and read her "About Us".. I would be running on the opposite direction...
Well, she needs to hire a professional website designer, add some more trading videos, re-work the About Us page with some carefully fudged and worded trading related accomplishments, and definitely remove the pictures of her advertising placards on utility poles on the Partners page!
Great... Now you've done it....she'll come back and request all that in the "Do you want your indicator created for Free" thread....
Come on...do I have to draw you a road map... Beth and E-Signal both have the letter "e" in their name ... and they both sell products that you wonder if any one has ever made money with....
I'm just a simple man trading a simple plan.
My daddy always said, "Every day above ground is a good day!"
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This is the bottom of the food chain in terms of trading software. It's where the money is. It's where the gullible newbies are.
Red light sell, green light buy. That's what people want. No effort, everything "EZ", quick and simple.
Of course, people will buy this and if they are lucky, they'll throw it away after a few weeks of trying it. A small loss will have been inucrred and hopefully, they'll leave wiser. Some people will lose additional money because they trade it.
The market is like a bucket. Lots of people throw money into the market and they all want to take more out than they throw in. Obviously, this is impossible. It's a competitive game. The minority will walk away from that bucket with more money than they put in. It take a lot of hard work and effort to get profitable and stay that way.
This thread is invaluable for 'EZcolortrading.com'. Even this post, people are reading it thinking, "That Dionysus just hasn't figured it out yet" or "maybe this one does work" or "Just because Dionysus couldn't make money from pretty indicators, doesn't mean I can't" or "why do I have to do it the hard way like Dionysus"... etc etc. etc.
So let's face fact - this and all other indicator systems like it are a total crock of sh1t. It is a shame that Ninja partner with such people in my opinion.
Trading isn't easy, it's competitive. People need to either come to grips with that and stop treating it like a get rich quick scheme.
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From her perspective, I think the EZ trading venture has nothing to do with trading. It is purely and simply a venture to attempt to create income, she could have just as easily been selling shovels, it's just easier to sell dreams to the dreamers. It's the capitalistic way.
No No No... I think she made her millions trading ... didn't want to make the rest of us feel bad by bragging about it ... so she kept it to herself ... and now she just wants to share her secret methods to give something back to the industry that treated her so well... the $99 goes straight to charity to support widows and orphans of traders who died trying to make a living trading without her system...
"Not intended to be a factual statement" John Kyle Senator Arizona
I'm just a simple man trading a simple plan.
My daddy always said, "Every day above ground is a good day!"
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Look at it this way... most of her customers will be men... and women have been selling fantasies to men since that one chick talked that dude into biting an apple ...
I'm just a simple man trading a simple plan.
My daddy always said, "Every day above ground is a good day!"
That's how the story is told by men. Do you really believe it?
If you think about it, the Middle East is not exactly the region, where people grow apple trees. The original Hebrew word in the bible was "evil" (please see following post, this may be wrong). The Latin bible uses the word "malum". Unfortunately for later generations, the Latin word "malum" means both "evil" and "apple". The guy who translated the Latin version of the bible for further distribution amongst Germans and Anglo-Saxonians did not exactly understand, what he was writng.
As people believe all sorts of nonsense, if it is written in the bible, we got the story as it is known today. Old machos of all countries still like to tell it again and again. If you subscribe to EZ Color Trading you can blame a woman for your trading losses. That comes really close to the story with the apple.
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The Hebrew Bible uses the Word 6529 (translated peree) which means fruit. (not evil in the original Hebrew). But you are correct about the translation to Latin. malam and malum can be confused, first basically can be translated - apple and the second - evil.
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The "Serpentine System".... Most men fail terribly at this method, as distractions cause them to miss the signals and they scramble to hit the DOM in time
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Not nearly as slow as me lol . See the Header "EZ signal" on the sites homepage . ESignal wants as much $ as they're entitled and thats real close to their companys name .
Actually, you made a valid point. Years before Al Gore invented the internet I bought modems from a Texas company named Xon (referring to Xon/Xoff protocol) . I got an invoice from them with a different name on it, asked them why the name change and they said.... They had received a cease and desist letter from lawyers at Exxon for infringing on their trademark.
I'm just a simple man trading a simple plan.
My daddy always said, "Every day above ground is a good day!"
This is my response to the pre-judgment, mis-judgment and mistrust since my launching a business leasing a simple trading system which I created based on 2 years intensive research/learning.
If one read what I wrote on my website, I never claimed to be a professional trader or educator. I outlined what I went through for the past two years. I am leasing a system which I hope will inspire traders (especially those who are still searching) to see the beauty of simplicity. With or without their subscription, it’s still a rewarding experience for me. If I was really a fraud, I might as well ask for a few hundred dollars for one-time purchase.
My system consists of 4 indicators two of which (the original versions) were in download section on NinjaTrader (NT) public forum. To enhance their real-time performance and efficiency, they’re re-coded completely to pass NT efficiency test by a programming friend who is a frequent contributor of different trading forums. I did create the third indicator and my NT thread could support this statement. It was further enhanced by my programming friend. My programming friend has also given me permission to use his Trend indicator (the fourth indicator) for my system.
I was in constant contact with Big Mike for advices regarding my business. I have no intention to violate his forum rules. I even made the efforts to remove my twitter and blog information from my profile before the NT New Partner announcement.
I’m extremely disappointed and shocked that some members choose to defame me and overlook my honest and open sharing in this forum for the past 1.5 years. It’s saddened me that some members have chosen to act out their resentment with racist and sexist slurs to me. I will send you a copy of their comments, if you’re curious as how people can turn ugly by my leasing a system that I have called my own.
For those that I have aroused resentment, anger and mistrust, I apologize for the unfortunate. I won’t go back and forth with arguments. You will never listen to my rationale anyway. My petite heart is broken by your insults and ill wishes. If that’s what you have tried to achieve: You have won!
For those who are understanding and supportive, I remain grateful for your kindness.
Beth
Good Trading is about Trading Right!
Want What the Market Wants!
Trade With the Trend!
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Well Mike,with vendors all over the place here you are bound to have these problems as is on other forums.
Sometimes you wonder if its relevant information for the trader or to fill someones bank account . Very gray zone sometimes. My 2 cnts.
Disclaimer: This post does not represent the view point of the owners, managers, or moderators of this web site and is not intended as a slam against any moderator, board member, any banned former members whose name we dare not say, any other living person, any recently living person or any person or persons whose status we are not sure of and especially not for any platform vendor with a questionable product and a pit bull lawyer. I am an Elite member of futures.io (formerly BMT) but am not an employee of or a spokesperson for futures.io (formerly BMT) and receive no compensation from futures.io (formerly BMT). Any and all statements I post on futures.io (formerly BMT) constitutes my opinion. This post is meant purely for entertainment and should not be confused with a real thought.
I'm just a simple man trading a simple plan.
My daddy always said, "Every day above ground is a good day!"
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Yo TMFT,
you know that arrows think you made for me a few months ago? I am losing money bro,can I have a refund?
BTW,I am selling my setup on ebay...will send check of royalties to corresponding parties(fattails,mike,sefsert et al) in the mail. First I am going to curve fit the heck out of it first. Love that 45 degree EC.
Since EZcolortrading got everything free from Big Mike's developed by you, please share where I can get the free stuff they use so I don't have to pay EZcolortrading. On a personal note, I do not agree with someone taking what has been developed for free and exploiting it. $99/month???
Last but not least, than k you to all of you who have shared what you have developed and for the guidance that you provide to those of us who are still learning this amazing business!
ask yourself... if what EZCT is selling truly, and I mean truly worked... do you think there would be the need of selling it? why would someone with a truly valid setup/indicator that could print money even share it? anyhow, just my 2 cents...
I'm just looking for the indicators that the person got for free from Big Mike's not to get into philosphical discussions about why someone would sell or not sell something that made money.
I actually attended some of her NT partner webinar back in July. I had no idea it was this same lady mentioned here until I saw this thread!
It was a nice presentation. I was tempted and looked at the site, but the leasing deal just kind of put me off when I saw
there were similar looking, free indicators already here on futures.io (formerly BMT). In fact, I and many others on this forum could probably modify indicators to look very much like hers, based on what we can learn about indicators here on futures.io (formerly BMT) from others who generously share indicator code, tutorials and insights. Glad I forgot about it and never followed up on it later until I saw this thread. I had seen the "millions" thread back in July and wondered about the new business venture, but had no idea it was the same person until now.
From my email back in July:
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Partner Events This Week 07/14/2011 - 07/15/2011 All event start times are shown as US Eastern Daylight time zone.
Date/Time* Event Name** Thursday 07/14/2011 04:15 PM EDTEZ Color Trading Friday 07/15/2011 04:15 PM EDTShadow Traders * Click the Date/Time of the Event to attend. ** Click the name of the event for more information. EZ Color Trading
"Utilize EZ Signals to Day Trade Your Favorite Futures Market"
presented by Beth Fiedler About the event: Please join Beth Fiedler for an introduction to one of the simplest and most effective trading methods in the market. Beth will cover the EZ steps to identify high probability signals, make good use of built-in protection mechanisms to secure capital, identify when to tighten stops and much more. The following topics will be covered in this session: • Utilize EZ methods for quick and accurate trade entries • How to professionally manage the trade to maximize profit and minimize losses • How to develop a winning trading plan of your own. • As an added bonus: Beth will give away 8 1-month EZ subscription passes. More details will be provided during the event. Special Offers from EZ Color Trading: All attendees of this special event will be eligible for a 10% discount on the 3-month EZ subscription – valid until July 22nd, 2011. More information will be shared during the event.
"
wow, the "dragon's den" looks like the canadian equivalent of CNBC's "Shark Tank" where "entrepreneurs" pitch
their businesses for more venture capital from the "sharks", i.e. the show group of millionaires or billionaires who make a show of considering the "small fish" 's pitch.
tho it's the first time I've seen a trading "system" pitch ; not that I really watch "Shark Tank". I prefer the "Profit". At least they teach you some business(marketing?) and accounting(production) concepts slipped here and there..
Dragons Den is the original, first in UK, then Canada, when they brought it to the US they changed it to Shark Tank. I have seen every season of all of them.
Beth's story is one of the first I read when I came to futures.io (formerly BMT) and it was pretty funny when I saw this over the weekend, I was like what a second!
EDIT: Kevin and Robert on Shark Tank are also on Dragons Den Canada (But I believe both have left in the newest season or season to come.)
That's right. Mostly trading option strangles. And adjusting with naked short calls and short puts. Far more riskier than just directional 2 futures contracts trading. I suppose that's why she mentioned they have extra staff watching their positions every minute.
You underestimate yourself, it's amazing what you can accomplish when you don't spend writing almost 300 posts in 6 months. Given the fact that you were the last commenter in 5 of the posts on the vendor page alone suggests you are pretty accomplished with a treasure chest of wisdom, although there is the small chance that you just have a lot of free time and opinions.
The Fiedlers were also back on Dragon's Den in season 9 as part of a series of webcast pitches.
Mainly to pitch a deal on her book on futures trading it looks like. (20k for 30%)
The kindle book came out in 2014. In the first few pages visible in the amazon "look inside" feature, in the intro
she mentions starting a trading thread, and also thanks various past and present members on BMT. Though no mention of
the BMT site by name itself.
It's her! I recall she was based in Canada. 
E ... Z... E ... Z little star ... 
