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DOM Sphere for NinjaTrader (www.domsphere.com)

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If no confirmation for an automated target or stop order is received then the connection may be down. In this case you can select whether to cancel or leave the auto generated orders. DOMSphere will do its best to accommodate you in this instance.

The connection was fine.

If I setup a Stop Loss only, it worked every time. I thought I might need to do something different with the target setup, but other than the ticks , there wasn't much to change.

I'll try the new version and see if there's any difference.


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Every orders bar has up/down button to move an order 1-3 ticks with a single click. This is usually enough for most instruments. But we are open to suggestions for improvements.

I was being descriptive, not judgmental. I don't know if this is even important to traders . I trade from the chart.

On the NT DOM, if you enable "One Click" trading, with targets and/or Stop Loss set, if you click on a price, the Target or Stop Loss will move to that position with one click, regardless of the number of ticks.

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Ok, I tried the new version...

The targets and stops worked as designed

One interesting thing... if you set your stops and targets with the ATM ... and you have them displayed on a chart with chart trader enabled ... you can not drag the targets and stops on the chart, they will go back to the setting in the ATM. You can move them on the DOM by clicking the up down movement graphics.

If this DOM was connected to an NT ATM strategy like I did with my Tool Bar Push buttons, this issue would go away.

Overall it seems like a good tool if you want a different DOM than what is available in NT.

YMMV

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Hi Big Mike community again,

We have a new version out which fixes some issues with several instruments.
You may download and enjoy, let us know if you encounter any problems. Also please don't PM me here on big mike I can not reply until I have enough posts. You can contact me through our website.

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If you can reproduce this please contact us. This is a precautionary measure. If no confirmation for an automated target or stop order is received then the connection may be down. In this case you can select whether to cancel or leave the auto generated orders. DOMSphere will do its best to accommodate you in this instance.



Every orders bar has up/down button to move an order 1-3 ticks with a single click. This is usually enough for most instruments. But we are open to suggestions for improvements.

Thanks,

Gary

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Have a look at this Real-time live recording of my "test-out" of the DOMSphere in my trade early this morning (my morning). You'll notice the message that popped up in the course of my trade. Meanwhile, see the attached screenshot for my CES Template settings.

So, what is responsible for the Message ? The CES settings seem simple. I'll even want to explore the AutoTrailing Stop setting, but I can seem to proceed to do that just yet.

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Ok, I tried the new version...
One interesting thing... if you set your stops and targets with the ATM ... and you have them displayed on a chart with chart trader enabled ... you can not drag the targets and stops on the chart, they will go back to the setting in the ATM. You can move them on the DOM by clicking the up down movement graphics.
YMMV

We have not really considered chart trading along side DOMSphere but you have certainly given me something to think about for the next the release. It is however more problematic at a deeper glance.
Consider a profit target after you have scaled in. You would essentially have two take profit orders at the same price that are supposed to be linked together. Using an external tool like a chart or the NT control center you can alter the price of one of those orders but not the other. It is not clear how the CES is supposed to behave after you have split your profit target. Currently it returns the moved order to its former price. If you have some thoughts on this I would love to hear them.


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So, what is responsible for the Message ?

I believe the message means that the CES has attempted to move your trailing stop but did not receive the confirmation for the new price, indicating a possible connection problem. I can know more if you mail me the log file of that CES.
When a CES becomes inactive a log file detailing its activity is written. Log files are located under the folder "My Documents\DOMSphere\CESLogs".

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Gary

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We have not really considered chart trading along side DOMSphere but you have certainly given me something to think about for the next the release. It is however more problematic at a deeper glance.
Consider a profit target after you have scaled in. You would essentially have two take profit orders at the same price that are supposed to be linked together. Using an external tool like a chart or the NT control center you can alter the price of one of those orders but not the other. It is not clear how the CES is supposed to behave after you have split your profit target. Currently it returns the moved order to its former price. If you have some thoughts on this I would love to hear them.


With NT DOM up and a Chart with Chart Trader enabled, If I have pending orders (Stops and Targets generated by the ATM) they show up in the DOM and in the Chart.

If I move an order on the DOM it will move on the chart also.

If I drag an order on the Chart, it will move on the DOM also.

I do not know if this is important to other traders or not.

I was simply trying to give a comparison of the two DOM's




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I believe the message means that the CES has attempted to move your trailing stop but did not receive the confirmation for the new price, indicating a possible connection problem. I can know more if you mail me the log file of that CES.
When a CES becomes inactive a log file detailing its activity is written. Log files are located under the folder "My Documents\DOMSphere\CESLogs".

This is the same issue I mentioned before. The connection can be fine and you will get these type of errors. I can place the same orders through NT DOM at the same time as your DOM and NT will handle them without a problem.

I do not doubt that something is "timing out" to cause this problem , but I would caution against using blanket "NT Support-esque" type of answers.

Introducing a new product against an established product can have it's challenges, but giving better/more empathetic/friendlier support than NT would not require that much effort.

I'm just a simple man trading a simple plan.

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Super DOM programming

Has anyone ever tried to program the Super DOM? (I mean here on Big Mike's) Why not? Because it's not supported?

Tried a quick search but found very little.
This if from Ninjatrader Support forum :

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Has anyone ever tried to program the Super DOM? (I mean here on Big Mike's) Why not? Because it's not supported?

Tried a quick search but found very little.
This if from Ninjatrader Support forum :

Super DOM Programming - NinjaTrader Support Forum

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Interesting idea. That's another way to potentially defeat the crazy TT static DOM patent. Allow a backdoor to allow the user to programatically change the behavior of the dynamic DOM, to become static. That way the onus is on the user, and NT is not violating the patent. I'll support any endeavor to stick it to TT

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OK - I understand that this will sound like I am taking the pi$$ Mike - but is this thread to discuss the vendor or the product?

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I will carry on - although I am not sure what's allowed here...

I had a trial of Domsphere. It's a good product but takes up a lot of screen real estate. I was a little surprised at the features as it duplicates some of those in Ninjas ATM strategies and so does actually have the potential to reduce Ninjas revenues. As such, I was a tad surprised Ninja allowed those features as a partner.

I moved from Tradestation to Ninja and so I do miss a number of these features - I just think they need to be compressed a little. Still - even if it does take up a fair amount of real estate, it is a much better DOM than Ninja.

In terms of TT patent, it could be an issue - but not for anyone that buys it. If you get this, you can trade with Ninja without paying for their TT credits or their ATM features. For some people that could make it worth the purchase price.

It is certainly a well developed product.

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Taking requests? Now we're talking!!! Since we're on it, I would like to have a column on each side of the DOM just for limit orders, like Infinity.


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Interesting idea. That's another way to potentially defeat the crazy TT static DOM patent. Allow a backdoor to allow the user to programatically change the behavior of the dynamic DOM, to become static. That way the onus is on the user, and NT is not violating the patent. I'll support any endeavor to stick it to TT


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