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Daytrading ES & NQ

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 kazbek966 
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It is about the capital that is moved. Should be multiple times more in the nq. So if you use volume analysis the nq is the relevant product, not the mnq.


In sierra i simply use nq for analysis and trade in mnq.

Interestingly enough NT8 analysis showed greater absolute value for both VOL and CumDElta for MNQ. VOLMA confirmed that. If we think about it that would make logical sense cause MNQ is much more affordable and thus much more traders participating in it.


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cme website says for yesterday

volume mnq 1.4 m
volume nq 0.7 m

As the NQ is 10x bigger in size there is 5x more volume in the nq

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cme website says for yesterday

volume mnq 1.4 m
volume nq 0.7 m

As the NQ is 10x bigger in size there is 5x more volume in the nq

So probably in this case we are talking about capitalization, which would indeed make NQ much more heavy. For me personally it would not carry too much difference as my best performing algos are using VWAP and DMindex. Volume based usually come third. I am using it mainly for the confirmation of exhaustion along with other indicators. There also some issues with NT8 buy sell volume colouring as some bars with negative cumdelta are coloured as being positive and vice versa. This would have enormous implications for analysis.

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20230928 pre market


  • Strong covering yesterday but no change for now
  • value was unchanged for 2 days so we can speak of a 2 day balance
  • we open inside of that value on mixed overnight inventory
  • expect chop, trade later
  • expect chop, trade later
  • expect chop, trade later
  • expect chop, trade later :-)

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About volume. here is a chart (RTH trading hours only) with both ES (Top) vs MES (Bottom) using equivolume bar:

Do you see a huge difference ?

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About volume. here is a chart (RTH trading hours only) with both ES (Top) vs MES (Bottom) using equivolume bar:

Do you see a huge difference ?

Overlapping those two charts would be a bit more convincing. But my imperfect vision did not see any difference whatsoever. Though as we already discussed the point was about capitalization.

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280923TRADES


The moment came with HUGE bearish volume bar stuck at 14760 that did not manage to move price. That signified wasted bearish effort making decision of going LONG quite logical. This decision was augmented by previously stated argument about overall bullish sentiment due to amount of trapped bears and end of month bullish environment.
Sometimes things work.

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20230929 post market



trades 9 29



ES & NQ


  • i changed to "trade early" because we were at the 2 day val at the open and i asked myself do we look below and go or fail and cover
  • obviously we failed and covered and i joined
  • unfortunately there was a rough break in c-period
  • i followed my plan to not change scenario too early, so everything ok here
  • the break was also in ES, see picture, so it was not a NQ specific shakeout
  • after this we went back to covering mode, i participated and took a scale out at the virgin poc and held one runner
  • as this could have been a bottom building at the daily there were chances that longer term buyers come in and we get a real trendday
  • i scaled one back in around 1:30 eastern
  • We did not get a liquidatiion or rejection of higher prices which sometimes happens
  • But we also did not get follow through. So in the end i judge it as COVERING

  • We have to wait and see if longer term buyers are present or if we have to go lower to attract them
  • The ES future (with volume based adjusted rollover) is at potential support levels (past BALANCE and sma 200)
  • The SPY and the SPX seems to have some room (i do not have accurate index data)


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THOUGHTS on 29.09.2023.

1. Smart folks from SimplerTrading pointed that this is End of Month and End of Quarter.
According to one school of thought backed by historical data it tend to favour very strong bullish sentiment.


2. Though, historically last trading day of the month, which is TODAY, is really not for faint-hearted. Make your pick.



3. There is also talk about developing short squeeze , which as we know favours BULLS. Big time.
And we all know what a big fun it is. For BULLS.

4. Another observation that current daily candle is in the formation reversing from 3rd lower SD of 21 Keltner Channel which also point to quite strong BULLISH sentiment.
The only strong case for BEARS could be made from the fact that historically Fridays (End of Week) and last trading day of the month are more on a bearish side.
So it is FRIDAYS(EOW/EOM) vs EOM/EOQ coming out from strong downward channel, and bouncing from 3rd lower SD of Keltner with a lot of trapped bears.
Did I mention that there is tiny matter of unresolved issue with the funding of US government. This is ultimate BEAR of them all with the latest news from CNN that the Congress
is still on track for government shutdown. Tighten your belts ladies and gentlemen as we could be for a bit of a rough ride.
But there is still couple of days to play this cliff-hanger.

Summarizing, it is TECHNICALS vs NEWS.




So I would still play LONG targeting 2nd and 1st SD of Keltner . Alternative would be S1 or PP on either weekly or monthly Fibonacci or one of VWAPs.

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20230929 pre market


  • We open with a gap up on top of yesterdays covering
  • the gap was made with numbers that came out
  • we open near the top of the on range with long overnight inventory (oni)
  • There should be medium term inventory which is still short
  • My gap rule applies: i do not follow large gaps early. This means that i need to see some kind of counter auction that fails
  • It is the end of week, month and quarter

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