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Billicare trade journey: from 5K to 250K

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 Billicare 
Haifa,Israel
 
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Hello to All of Traders in this amazing forum!

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Is your method mechanical or arbitrary ?

If it is mechanical, have you tried to automate it and run a back test ?
(i have seen many people with a working method, until you implement the so-called
wining rules, and a back test confirms it is systematically losing money, then it is
simple, just reverse the rules... and gues what ? it also loses money...
not easy to find a mechanical method that works..)

that said : good luck
and you already found your biggest enemy, try to control your enemy

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 Billicare 
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Is your method mechanical or arbitrary ?

If it is mechanical, have you tried to automate it and run a back test ?
(i have seen many people with a working method, until you implement the so-called
wining rules, and a back test confirms it is systematically losing money, then it is
simple, just reverse the rules... and gues what ? it also loses money...
not easy to find a mechanical method that works..)

that said : good luck
and you already found your biggest enemy, try to control your enemy

Iím discretionary trader, I haven't hard rules for enters/exits.
My style is a scalping plus day trading, my entries in overbought/oversold zones.
My targets from 12-15 ticks to 30-40 ticks.
I believe my conservative M/M system it the key.
For my daily goal i need to get one move only for 30 ticks per contract.
And yes, i know my enemy, thanks for remainders. ))

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 Billicare 
Haifa,Israel
 
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A very difficult day for me today.
The trend is clearly not my friend)
Even at the night session, I had problems with Rhythmic, I could not cancel the warrant.
LeeLoo reacted very quickly, thank them for that.
At the opening, after several unsuccessful short attempts, he mistakenly took NQ instead of MNQ.
Confused in my new hotkey settings.
After that i got a few more stops and the rest of the day returned my losses with quick scalps of NQ.
Yes, I broke my rules of trading only micro, but it all ended well with a profit of $ 513.

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 Billicare 
Haifa,Israel
 
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Today is was very similar to yesterday $617 in profit.

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 Billicare 
Haifa,Israel
 
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Today i was play micros only, very conservative,
2 times shorted MNQ on pullbacks before the crazy move.
After that leaved my screens.
Today P/L $220

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Today I was constantly on the wrong side, loss $2038

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 tr8er 
Europe
 
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Ouch, that hurts. It's a pity that you lost your account within 1 single day, after a great start.

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Ouch, that hurts. It's a pity that you lost your account within 1 single day, after a great start.

What makes you say he lost the account?

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 Billicare 
Haifa,Israel
 
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Ouch, that hurts. It's a pity that you lost your account within 1 single day, after a great start.

I have not lost my account, but thanks for the support

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 tr8er 
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Ok, I just saw that you lost 163 % of your daily loss limit

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 Billicare 
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Ok, I just saw that you lost 163 % of your daily loss limit

Yes, unfortunately, but I have not lost my account

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 tr8er 
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Ok, great if you still can trade this account, I'm not familiar with their rules. Good luck!

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 santom 
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Ouch ur daily max loss wasnt 2% or so? Hope you get back and u still have ~500-600$ right before its gets locked?

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Posts: 44 since Jul 2017
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Now i lost my account, will continue to post after pass the evaluation again.

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Now i lost my account, will continue to post after pass the evaluation again.

May be good to express here publicly what you believe went wrong; and how you plan to fix it for the next round, no? Regardless, good luck and thanks for sharing your experience!

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May be good to express here publicly what you believe went wrong; and how you plan to fix it for the next round, no? Regardless, good luck and thanks for sharing your experience!

Just not followed my rules, averaged down, instead
of taking small loss.

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Just not followed my rules, averaged down, instead
of taking small loss.

Got it ... just a matter of improving discipline, I guess. I'm confident you'll do much better next time!

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Got it ... just a matter of improving discipline, I guess. I'm confident you'll do much better next time!

Thank you, i'll try.

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 tr8er 
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Now i lost my account, will continue to post after pass the evaluation again.

It's a pity that you lost your account, you will come back stronger, good luck!

I've a question regarding their account: I saw that they have daily losses, so I was a bit confused because of your loss yesterday, you lost 163 % of the daily loss, but you still could trade today, is there daily loss not valid and which account you traded?

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 Billicare 
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It's a pity that you lost your account, you will come back stronger, good luck!

I've a question regarding their account: I saw that they have daily losses, so I was a bit confused because of your loss yesterday, you lost 163 % of the daily loss, but you still could trade today, is there daily loss not valid and which account you traded?

If I touch my daily loss and not close my position, I can still trade, but canít add. If I closed my position with daily loss limit, I canít trade this day, but can still trade next day.

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Good luck Billi! One bad day ruined your account and hope you come back strong in ur next

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Do you have experience with others like Oneup/TST and how it compares to leeloo?

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Have you started another evaluation Billi with leeloo?

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Hope you can update you journey, best wishes!

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 Billicare 
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Good luck Billi! One bad day ruined your account and hope you come back strong in ur next

Thank you!

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Do you have experience with others like Oneup/TST and how it compares to leeloo?

Tried once TST, not successful.

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Have you started another evaluation Billi with leeloo?

Yep )

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Hope you can update you journey, best wishes!

Thank you!

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 Billicare 
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So, today i received my funded account number 3.
Started to trade like i promised (micro only).
Scalping MNQ, mostly long side +$233.

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Nice p&l.
How many contracts per trade? How many trades?

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Nice p&l.
How many contracts per trade? How many trades?

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Contracts per trade: from 2 to 8.
8 is too much, will try to take 4 max.

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Made last one for today Long, + $299 on the day.

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Haifa,Israel
 
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Posts: 44 since Jul 2017
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Don't liked this number (299), took one more long +$318 now
Completely done for the day.

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Haifa,Israel
 
Experience: Beginner
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Posts: 44 since Jul 2017
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Today P/L +$608

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 Billicare 
Haifa,Israel
 
Experience: Beginner
Platform: TOS, TWS, Sierra chart
Broker: AMP,IB
Trading: NQ,ES,Euro Bund
 
Posts: 44 since Jul 2017
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Today P/L $339

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Haifa,Israel
 
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Took 2 more shorts, $448 now

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Last update $504

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Impressive results.
How many trades do you place a day? are all manually or auto-trades? Do you have a set TP and SL or changed every trade?

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Haifa,Israel
 
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Impressive results.
How many trades do you place a day? are all manually or auto-trades? Do you have a set TP and SL or changed every trade?

1.How many trades do you place a day?
10-15
2.Are all manually or auto-trades?
All manually.
3.Do you have a set TP and SL or changed every trade?
Yes, i use braket orders (OCO), but trailing them manually.

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Today i lost my third LeeLoo funded account, was god in profit, but trailing drawdown kill me.
I don't blame anyone but myself. Wrong money management, too much risk, too many contracts,FOMO...

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 Rrrracer 
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Experience: Intermediate
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Damn, sorry to hear that, looked like you were on a roll for a while there.

What's next?

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Damn, sorry to hear that, looked like you were on a roll for a while there.

What's next?

Next- next eval, hope this one be last one for me )

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Bad news: i'm stupid.
Good news: i'm doesn't lost my funded account.
Only touch my daily loss limit.
For now i continue to trade on two, after 8 days i will receive second funded.

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Bad news: i'm stupid.
Good news: i'm doesn't lost my funded account.
Only touch my daily loss limit.
For now i continue to trade on two, after 8 days i will receive second funded.

Hey Billicare, I know how it feels, I made a post that I think can help you:


I don't think you need to use Leeloo. Are you aware it's only $2 a point to trade NQ micros with a futures broker right? (+ $2 round-turn commission) and $50 day trading margin per contract. I use an australian forex broker and have a 1 point spread for NQ CFD during busy hours and no commissions. 1 micro works out to $1.40 USD per point.

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I hope all is well.

You haven't posted any updates in a few weeks.

Your last message said you didn't lose your account, so are you still trading now?

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Are you still with them? It has been a few months..

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