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Wishing to trade NQ LIVE with 2K, any advice?

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[QUOTE=TraderEX;693166]I started with 2k 21 months ago and have only used 3100 and now 3500 for the last 2 weeks, fixed at 2k. I live on the net profits week by week. In the 3800's for margin tomorrow. I lost 11,700 in 2014 and 15. Won 8 dollars in January 2017. This was my first profit ever. So, I am now 3.75 years from thinking, "Hmm m maybe I could just earn some pocket money" I just stuck to what I know.

Tradovate will take 2k to open. Free platform and 0.79 per side commissions. try the free 2 week demo first.

Godspeed with the surgery. Come back, we'll leave the light on.

EX

I thank my critic for the critique as forgetting what I stated above would lead an ignorant person astray. I simply shared my experience and made no suggestion for you to trade. Just provided you with the information on where to go if you felt ready to start. Since I see things in a "different" way and am an autodidact, when I hear my critics say that you cannot do this is because i cannot. Maybe he'll post where he trades, I'll show you how transfer that war chest, one tic at a time.

P.S. I forgot to tell you, I am a special case. The level of genius that it took for me to extract a paycheck every single month for last 21 months is what I possess. I am a pattern recognition expert (PRE) scoring 99.97%tile (3 of 10,000). Since I do not know you, I did not make the assumption that you were not. Everyday it gets easier and easier. Now that my back load of medicals bills have been paid, I should be able to scale a contract a week.

My algorithm is being coded by MIT and the marketing is aimed at e gamers in Japan; I trade manually. Limiting the sale to 4000 only at $4995.00 USD by Tencent: TCEHY. May be out before XMAS, or may not but will not see the states. I have a thread going in Journals about it. What I am sharing here can also be used at the NQ but somewhat less effective

I started a journal for all to see. Anyone thinking this is not my experience should cruise right by without stopping. I saw a good one on where to get ES support/resistance lines by daily email gratis. The thread is packed.

My critic and I agree on one thing, takes aLOSER to pay a winner. Not much insight needed but accurate.

Amazing that no one offers a pray or "hopes" for your recovery. The saying you can only service one GOD effectively is apparent in these rooms. Again, Godspeed sir.[/QUOTE @TraderEX this is very interesting. Are you saying that you are making a living trading a $2,000 account???

If so you appear to be a one off add most people on this forum say you need much more than that to just trade futures, let alone make a living?

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 Binkius 
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You said that you need cash for "software, data fees etc..."

Wouldn't you get this from your broker in the form of a charting package?

Sorry for sounding like a compete idiot, I'm new to futures. It seems like a different world to trading equities and spot forex..

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It depends on what software you want to use. Most of the broker supplied software is pretty bad, which is why it's "free".

Ninja Trader is the most popular platform here on Fio (I think).

Figure out which trading style/system works best for you. I like Volume Profile and footprints, so I use IRT.

Some brokers have better data feeds than others. You want to avoid those which aggregate data. But for SIM-trading, it probably doesn't matter too much.

Your trading system/style will determine what you need in terms of software and data feed.

Good luck and there are no stupid questions! Preserve your capital!

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Frankly, the NQ is a VERY fast market, Russell 2000, not as fast, S&P 500 slower yet. Want to make an income? Trade easier markets, not the harder ones. Experience is the best teacher if you can afford the tuition. Paid mine many times over.

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What do you consider a suitable bankroll for trading futures? Thanks.

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It depends what kind of trading you're going to be doing. Give a little more information and I can possibly give you a better answer. Welcome to Thunderdome.

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What do you consider a suitable bankroll for trading futures? Thanks.

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2x overnight margin.

This will let you make some losing trades before being closed out.

The smaller your account, the tighter your margin of error. Trading ES, $500 is good for 10 points of loss before the account is closed down. Most people new to futures have a 20%-30% success rate per trade. Only 1/5 or 1/3 trades will be a winner.

This requires losing a lot of trades before you figure out what is going on.

I really recommend you do some SIM trading as cheaply as possible before risking real money. The futures market, as TheShrike just pointed out, is Thunderdome.

If you can find a broker who will give you something like Ninja Trader and a data feed for "free", that'd be great. If that doesn't work, Think or Swim from TD Ameritrade is, one of the better "free" broker software platforms and comes with data.

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https://www.investopedia.com/articles/basics/12/goals-for-novice-traders.asp

Goals for Novice Traders
BY: Cory Mitchell, CMT
When you begin trading, there are a lot of questions. With all the information out there it can be hard to decide where to start. Setting goals can help, but often novice traders set the wrong type of goals. As a novice trader your initial goals should help you eventually make money, but making money should not be your goal. Instead, opt to make your initial goals about process and emulating traits of professional traders.

Make Your Goals About Process, Not Results
Initially, traders want to make goals about numbers: "I will make 1% per day on my $30,000 capital," or "I will make 30% per year." While it seems simple, to actually get to certain percentage or dollar targets you will need to refine your market approach and hone your discipline. By plunging into the market and expecting to make a certain amount of money, the goal becomes almost impossible to reach over the long-term. These types of goals require the trader to truly understand the capabilities (and limitations) of the trading plan they are employing, not just think they understand.

Based on the method being used, it may be impossible to reach a dollar or percentage goal, but it still could be valid and provide a good return; therefore, the trader must either abandon the strategy or deviate from it in an attempt to find more yields. For many traders this becomes an endless cycle of abandoning strategy after strategy. Looking at charts in hindsight makes trading look easy, but those who trade know it is harder than it looks. Novice traders must not only become knowledgeable about the markets, but also about themselves.

Just like any other business, to become a good trader you must focus on a solid process. Results will not come instantly. Most businesses require quite a bit of time before profits are made, and many businesses fail completely. Trading is no different. Without understanding how the markets truly work and developing a winning process, the results are based on chance, not skill. (For related reading, see: 10 Steps to Building a Winning Trading Plan.)

To build a winning process for trading the markets, try using these three goals.

Always Have a Plan
In business school, you are taught that to start a business you need a business plan. Trading is a business. Therefore, every time you trade you must be trading according to a well-thought-out and calculated plan.

The plan should include how trades will be entered and exited and how money will be managed. The plan should be very detailed, outlining the markets that will be traded, risk parameters, if filters will be used on trade signals, what constitutes a trade and exit signal, position size, what market environments will be traded, and how that will be determined, such as ranges or trends.

Therefore, the goal here is to create a complete plan before making another trade.

Learn Not to Trade
Especially when a specific dollar amount is the goal, traders will push to achieve that goal, even when opportunities are not present. The market does not present statistically probable trading opportunities at all times, often you will be far better off sitting on your hands or watching TV than trading. This does not sit well with most people; they want to continually be doing something. In the markets this can slowly (or quickly) erode the profits that came during good trading times.

Trading during slow times or making impulsive trades outside the scope of the plan is such a common issue that it deserves special attention. Make one of your goals to be as disciplined as possible, only making trades that are outlined in the plan. (For related reading, see: The Key to High Returns Is a Disciplined Strategy.)

Keep It Simple
A complex strategy can be very alluring. Many people believe because something is complex it is more likely to work. Avoid getting too fancy with your analysis and trading strategies or making a winning trading plan more complex—usually this only results in destroying the profitability of it. If you like the stock market, stick with trading stocks. If you like currencies, then trade FOREX. Focus on only one market and a couple of simple strategies when starting out.

The goal here is to avoid constant tinkering to improve performance, or continuously switching markets, strategies or analysis methods. Stick to the plan. If it occasionally needs to be reworked a bit that is fine, but keep the revisions simple and avoid getting overly complex.

The Bottom Line
When starting out, be a niche trader focused on a very few manageable goals. Results will come in time if you are trading according to a trading plan, not trading when there are no opportunities, and avoiding getting too complex. (For related reading, see: The Importance of Trading Psychology and Discipline.)

This is a magnificent post - it should be a sticky for all newbies. Needs to be read a few times over.

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Hi, what broker would you recommend for demo trading? I live in the United Kingdom. Currently looking at AMP Global, the international arm of AMP Futures.

They have a beginner friendly initial deposit of $100 to open a live account. Granted this doesn't enable you to trade much.

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I don't have any experience with international brokers so I cannot recommend a demo. You can download the ninjatrader platform for free and play with market replay data. You would just download the current days data at the end of the day and then use the replay feature.

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Hi, thanks I'm new so forgive the obvious questions. Why do you have to be well capitalised in this game? If you have enough to cover the overnight margin aren't your good to go? In this case $5,000 should be enough to get started?

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There is no way whatsoever to avoid having trades that don't work. Also known as losers. It doesn't take any skill at all to place a winning trade or a losing trade. This business is all about Risk Management..... That's it..... Whatever analytical approach you take to the market matters very little.

IT IS A HUGE, COMPLETE AND AMAZING ILLUSION THAT YOUR ANALYSIS MEANS YOU WILL HAVE A WINNING TRADE ON YOUR HANDS. (So awesome is this illusion that it can support a huge "trading" industry selling every manner of "methods" "systems' etc etc etc etc etc...........-----> ∞)

Say you have a system with a 70% edge on a sample size of 500 trades. It is still impossible to know the sequence of trades that work and those that don't. This sequence is random. You very well could have 5% (25 trades) of your 30% losers up front and wipe out your $5000 account Risking $200/trade.

Your broker would actually lock your account once you can no longer cover the margin....so it would happen (your trading business closes its doors) sooner in the above example than your account being at zero.

Therefore being well capitalized in this business is an incredible advantage. You can easily weather the storm and wait for the sequence of trades that work to show up.

I'm honestly trying to help here....I know it's kinda a bummer what I am saying.... just make sure you trade super small and learn more about yourself than about anything else. This business is mostly Psychological.

Ron

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With $500 margin can you trade any future contracts if you area holding positions for longer than a day?

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No. In futures there are three numbers you need to worry about.

1. Intra-day margin. What you pay per contract during the normal trading day. Amount varies by broker. For many it is 500 dollars.
2. Initial margin. This is what is required to hold a position through end of day on the first day you purchase. Right now with my account initial margin on 1 contract of NQ is 7,700.
3. Maintenance Margin. This is what is needed to continue to hold it subsequent days. Currently at 5,000 with my broker.

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What is DLL please?

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Daily loss limit.

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