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Wishing to trade NQ LIVE with 2K, any advice?

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 4tison 
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I think it is possible to survive with only $2000. It isn't ideal, but could work if you do the following:

If you already come out ahead in Sim trading.

If you can take the same mindset live.

If you can take the same setups live.

If you obey the same money management live.

If you manage your trades properly live.

If you know who you are as a trader.

*I think money management, and having an idea of what you are doing are the major keys.

Be well.

Thanks much for your positive suggestion.
Much appreciated.

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Is this your first time trading the NQ or futures in general ? If it is, I would save your $2000 and trade SIM. I can tell you that if you are new...the NQ is the one of the absolute worst markets to attempt to daytrade live with a 2k account....well, that and the DAX. The NQ is very volatile and can move very fast. It offers many opportunities daily for seasoned traders but likewise can be a meat grinder for newer, less experienced traders.

Babool,

You are so very correct, the NQ has a temperment of its own.

Today is Thursday morning, 2018-10-11

My NQ chart is going crazy all over the place
for most part of the morning,

is there something going on over
in the US markets or else where?

I am 15,000 miles away.


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4tison View Post
My NQ chart is going crazy all over the place
for most part of the morning,

is there something going on over
in the US markets or else where?

My thoughts for the reason would be, If you looked at a DOM which showed a sum for the total of order depth on the Bid or Offer you would have seen that for ten layers of depth the sum yesterday was only between about 60-80 each side for the whole day. Normally it is around 150-180 or so. More pronounced on the ES which only had about 1700 per side when normally it is 3500-4000. I would guess most of the scalping style algos were switched off for the day after yesterday's huge drop and the increase in the VIX. That gives a thinner order book so orders can be swept through more easily and allow for cleaner momentum runs. All my supposition though so it could be completely wrong.

Today was a rotational consolidation day finding balance after the previous day's big move. The swings were big, 230 points range in the RTH session, but the market just went back and forth through the open all day (yellow line), and closed there at the end.


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$2000 is absolutely possible. If you have a profitable strategy/system it can be done. If you have never traded NQ live, be ready to keep your emotions under control once you do. If you can't keep them under control, then $2000 isn't enough.

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4tison View Post
Seeking advices, if it is at all prudent or even practical
to venture into the pool of hungry sharks
with baits so insignificant?

All comments or suggestions or advice or
snickers or condemnations
or whatever are welcomed.

Keep it polite pls, there might be sister theresa around.

Any broker wish to offer free commission for sixty day
or much less, or whenever there is a margin all.... LOL

Starting in 30 days, after my by-pass operation!

Actually, it is not a wise decision to start with 2K and expect to get rich.
If the 2K is an investment in your learning process, it is simply a place to start.

I hate to suggest SIM trading because it is difficult to break out of the rut it puts you into and much harder to experience the 'risk' of trading real $.
But starting with 2K is not realistic.

Can it be done?
Not impossible but highly unlikely to be a successful outcome if profits are your objective.

About your comment about 'Starting in 30 days..."
Are you serious? Start trading after a BY-PASS Operation?
Are you aware that trading can be a very stressful process?
I'm not sure your Dr. will approve of your rehabilitation activity choice.
After such a procedure, I think a less stressful option should be your choice.
Perhaps just watching the market rather than experiencing it.

But it sounds like you have made your choice and can see the stars.
Just don't use any more $ than you consider 'recreational funds'.
If you can't afford to throw the $$ out the window on the way back from your by-pass, then I suggest you not put any $ at risk.

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I think it is possible to survive with only $2000. It isn't ideal, but could work if you do the following:

If you already come out ahead in Sim trading.

If you can take the same mindset live.

If you can take the same setups live.

If you obey the same money management live.

If you manage your trades properly live.

If you know who you are as a trader.

*I think money management, and having an idea of what you are doing are the major keys.

Be well.

What IF...
I have read what you wrote 10 years ago...
THEN I would NOT have to endure the hardship of trading small account the first couple years of learning to trade "Drama Queen" ES eMini.
@4tison
Just don't do it!


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 RDK91 
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Since so many people here are convinced that it is possible, please provide some successtory's from futures day traders who started with a <5K account and traded it to >50K.

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Since so many people here are convinced that it is possible, please provide some successtory's from futures day traders who started with a <5K account and traded it to >50K.

far from many, I would say a few think it maybe possible only if ( a list of actions to satisfy first).

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Why not trade something like ZF (5-year note)? It moves like paint drying, but you won't be destroyed as easily as you will trading NQ, YM or CL. Fast markets are a dopamine junkies 'fix' with their quick profits and losses, but most I bet just get ran over. Learn how to trade the DOM, and I bet you keep more of your $2000.

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Just don't use any more $ than you consider 'recreational funds'.
If you can't afford to throw the $$ out the window on the way back from your by-pass, then I suggest you not put any $ at risk.


This is great stuff... just as in racing, you have to understand that all the money you have tied up in that car is at risk and you'd better be willing to just drive it off a cliff and walk away from it (although trading is not nearly as dangerous from a physical standpoint lol.)

OP, I think you would be well served to look at an instrument that would allow you to stay in the game much longer while learning how to trade, such as the micro currencies, especially if you've never traded live before. NQ can be fast and furious, enough to easily rip through $2K in a day.

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