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$5,000 Live trading account challenge - CL & ES

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Not too happy to post these, but I said it's a live account and need to do what has to be done



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Obviously telling me that my winning days need to be more profitable to off set losing days! Down $-208 so far


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First of all, thank you for keeping a detailed journal like this.
It's great to read how your are thinking and it's very inspirational.

I have a couple of questions, if you don't mind

You mentioned that trading a small account is more difficult than trading a larger account.
Can you elaborate on why that is exactly?
Is it because you use larger stops, have a higher daily loss limit, or is it only the scaling that makes it easier?

If so, can you explain your scaling method on your larger account?
Are you scaling in&out, all-in and scale out, ...

Thanks!

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First of all, thank you for keeping a detailed journal like this.
It's great to read how your are thinking and it's very inspirational.

I have a couple of questions, if you don't mind

You mentioned that trading a small account is more difficult than trading a larger account.
Can you elaborate on why that is exactly?
Is it because you use larger stops, have a higher daily loss limit, or is it only the scaling that makes it easier?

If so, can you explain your scaling method on your larger account?
Are you scaling in&out, all-in and scale out, ...

Thanks!

Thanks @GruttePier,

these messages keep me going as it is kind of time consuming to write everything down in a very detailed manner. But I think, I found a good approach and will keep it up for the next 3-4 weeks. Then I'm on vacation but I'll see the feedback on fio and then reassess and might just keep it going for much longer.

I think the emotional part is harder for me as I have a tight risk limit and being down 300-700 is sometimes normal for me and then I'll just need a couple more trades to make it back which is of course easier when you have a 5-6lot trade on. For example on a 50k account you could give yourself 1k risk limit or even 1.5k, hence trading multiple lots let's say 3 lots at a time (with 8T stop - give you 6 trades in total if all were losers, to hit 6 losing trades consecutive is rare for me), then you could easily scale out. Like since starting this journal every session I had trades which were like 5-7T profit and then I might just book a BE trade, this gets annoying and does affect your emotional state. Now with 3 lots, you could already take 1 lot off at +5 and another +6 or more and keep a runner at BE entry or with a trailing stop. So the scaling out part is the most important I find. Also my last trade today, where I finally got it right with a long after confirmation with the double bottom.

I would normally not scale in as it sometimes just adds into a losing trade. Best to go all in with your position size, see how it goes and scale out or get stopped out. Hope that makes sense?

How's your trading going? Haven't checked your journal yet but will in a minute.

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Thanks @GruttePier,
How's your trading going? Haven't checked your journal yet but will in a minute.

Doing well, thanks.
I'm experimenting with scaling in & out and am looking forward to the stats for differences.
That's why I asked

Keep up the good work!

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But what this means ?

"The information provided by MDTrading should only be used for educational purpose and does not constitute an offer to sell or solicitation of an offer to buy any
securities of financial instruments or any advice or recommendation with respect such securities or other financial instruments."

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But what this means ?

"The information provided by MDTrading should only be used for educational purpose and does not constitute an offer to sell or solicitation of an offer to buy any
securities of financial instruments or any advice or recommendation with respect such securities or other financial instruments."

Hi lemons

Did you post the above in the right thread?

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Hi lemons

Did you post the above in the right thread?

Yes, every daily prep has / "here my daily prep sheet# "page 1disclaimer. Look lowest row.
See it your self :







Do I need to go furhter ?


And yes, yes I like very much what @mastadee is doing. Support / Resistance is my main trading idea, it works.

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Yes, every daily prep has / "here my daily prep sheet# "page 1disclaimer. Look lowest row.
See it your self :







Do I need to go furhter ?


And yes, yes I like very much what @mastadee is doing. Support / Resistance is my main trading idea, it works.


Aaaah, now I see what you meant by "I'm not FIO police but what does that mean?", thanks for clarifying - I think I know the answer but I'll let Mastadee reply

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Yes, every daily prep has / "here my daily prep sheet# "page 1disclaimer. Look lowest row.
See it your self :







Do I need to go furhter ?


And yes, yes I like very much what @mastadee is doing. Support / Resistance is my main trading idea, it works.

I am modest, I love what @mastadee is doing.

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