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Good Stuff,
I like this EMA setup. Maybe looking at a smaller time frame chart one can enter earlier with a smaller stop. But most of the time a bullish/bearish flag is forming and hh, hl & lh, ll are hard to identify.

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I see you're optimizing on the target in relation to bar size. What is the stop?

15 trades isn't enough sample size. Can you repeat it for a longer period and then see how it does? Better yet, do the previous 3 months excluding the past 4 weeks and find the optimal value and then test the next 4 weeks with those values without optimizing them. I'd love to see the results.

Thanks for sharing.

Stop is at the other side of the IB, I'm only optimizing targets, not stops. The target is optimized as a factor of IB size, so the "1.9" run means target = 1.9 * IB size, stop still = 1.0 * IB size. Ideally, I think target should be a factor of a daily ATR, because just using a factor * IB size will not work consistently as the market changes it's degree of volatility, though you'd think the IBs would line up with the market's current volatility, but it might not.

I just don't have a good DB of fresh continuous tick data in Ninja. I'd love to do more tests to, but I literally test each contract separately. I've tried "Merge data" and creating my own CL-##-## and then adding data to it, but I always have problems. Makes me want to go back to Tradestation. Maybe NT7 handles it better, but I don't like using software that not even the vendor thinks is good enough to take out of beta, especially if I want it to manage money for me.

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I just don't have a good DB of fresh continuous tick data in Ninja. I'd love to do more tests to, but I literally test each contract separately. I've tried "Merge data" and creating my own CL-##-## and then adding data to it, but I always have problems. Makes me want to go back to Tradestation. Maybe NT7 handles it better, but I don't like using software that not even the vendor thinks is good enough to take out of beta, especially if I want it to manage money for me.

If I had crude data on TS I'd try exporting tick data but I'm no longer subscribed. I used to make continuous data with NT all the time. I think I did it like this:

export a month's data. hardest part is knowing the rollover dates
rename the file to CL ##-##.txt
import it
then repeat for each other month

that way is very simple and it works great. There will be gaps at the rollover days but that's only an issue if holding positions overnight which I never did with crude.

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I have CL data in TS8 & would be happy to export a file to shodson if he is interested & if perhaps cunparis would tell me exactly how to do it (I know he does just that in the post above, but I am thinking that for a longer data period, shouldn't one of the newer "spliced" contracts be used, which I think would be called something like "@CLZ10" ?). I haven't used these newer continuous contracts, but I think they were desgigned for intraday backtesting - any idea, cunparis ?

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I have CL data in TS8 & would be happy to export a file to shodson if he is interested & if perhaps cunparis would tell me exactly how to do it (I know he does just that in the post above, but I am thinking that for a longer data period, shouldn't one of the newer "spliced" contracts be used, which I think would be called something like "@CLZ10" ?). I haven't used these newer continuous contracts, but I think they were desgigned for intraday backtesting - any idea, cunparis ?

The only advantage I see with TS continuous contracts are they avoid having to do the merge manually and they adjust the prices to remove the gaps present at rollover. This is important if one is holding more than 1 day and/or looking at price levels from the past. If one is basing all their decisions on intraday data then the continuous contract doesn't really help much.

There is a ninja indicator for tradestation to do the export. I'm not sure if it works with tick data or not.

You can find info on the ninja indicator for TS here:

http://www.ninjatrader-support.com/HelpGuideV6/helpguide.html?OnMarketData

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If I had crude data on TS I'd try exporting tick data but I'm no longer subscribed. I used to make continuous data with NT all the time. I think I did it like this:

export a month's data. hardest part is knowing the rollover dates
rename the file to CL ##-##.txt
import it
then repeat for each other month

that way is very simple and it works great. There will be gaps at the rollover days but that's only an issue if holding positions overnight which I never did with crude.

I'll try that. I usually roll-over around the 19th or 20th of the month for my testing. Does that sound reasonable to you other CL traders?

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I'll try that. I usually roll-over around the 19th or 20th of the month for my testing. Does that sound reasonable to you other CL traders?

That works good.

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I'll try that. I usually roll-over around the 19th or 20th of the month for my testing. Does that sound reasonable to you other CL traders?

Here are the volume roll-over dates as I recorded them.

From To Contract
12/18/2009 - 1/18/2010 02-10
1/19/2010 - 2/18/2010 03-10
2/19/2010 - 3/18/2010 04-10
3/19/2010 - 4/18/2010 05-10
4/19/2010 - 5/17/2010 06-10
5/18/2010 - 6/18/2010 07-10
6/19/2010 - 7/18/2010 08-10
7/19/2010 - 8/17/2010 09-10
8/18/2010 - 9/17/2010 10-10
9/18/2010 - 10/17/2010 11-10
10/18/2010 - 12-10

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programer needed

I did a nice plan how to trade the inside and outside bar, and until now it work for me nice. iam interested to make it automated, so anyone know where i can find a programer to make a ninja trader strategy? how much that might cost?

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I did a nice plan how to trade the inside and outside bar, and until now it work for me nice. iam interested to make it automated, so anyone know where i can find a programer to make a ninja trader strategy? how much that might cost?

There is a thread for hiring programmers (not free) here:

https://futures.io/elite-group-trading-methods/4684-want-your-indicator-created-ready-pay-programmer-wanted.html

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