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Hi, just my two cents (I use Al's method too): before you take any trade, there are 3 things to consider: 1. Decide whether it's a trading range or a trend; 2. Decide always-in direction; 3. Looking for set up(signal bar). At least I got better result with these steps. 祝你好运!


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@sabrinavvv Thank you!

I totally understand your idea, and I cannot agree more. Believe or not I had this kind of plan, but during my practice I somehow I lost them, and always come back to a random impulsive way of trading.

You really touched my sore point. You are 100% right, I need to stay with my plan and make it my pattern of trading...













See what I've done before, I just want to prove that I'm really shame on myself that I realized the problem, made a plan but cannot go out of my comfort zone to change my bad habit. Thank you for pointing it out directly so that I cannot cheat myself any more.....


I'm going to refine this plan and stick to it~

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@tshunhu,it's a very detailed checklist, but maybe better if you simplify it? Like, only list, say, 5-10 set-ups you will be watching? And also, enough rest is crucial to day trading! It may be hard in your time zone though...


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@sabrinavvv Thank you, that what I'm going to do.

About time zone, yes, that's why I'm doing Sim in chinese market. I'll put real money in Chinese market, when I feel on track and switch US account into longer term trading, like to day or weeks, I'm not sure about any detail yet.

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Made a mass in trading FB, too many trades, out of control. Small loss in money big loss in mind...

Need to be cautious with newly learned methodes, I desperately wanted to use what I've learned from books to make money. Slow down and take time~

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I've been trading for about 3 years. The first year was happy, with some luck and passion, I got some profit from the market. The second year was about paying the price for previous happiness, big $ losses, emotional pain. The third year, till now, I'm just saying that I'm starting to learn.

I've read many books about technical analysis: some about indicators, some about price charts, and some about algorithm trading and etc, but they are not suitable for me. The journey of searching a holy grail is doomed to be fruitless, I seldom feel at ease when making a trading decision: worry about potential loss before taking a position, worry about paper profit vanish when holding a position, regret about missing the rest of movement after closing a trade. Making money or not, it is not a pleasant experience.

After all these struggles, I stopped looking for solution in technical analysis, I read more books in psychology, religion, and some about trading experience. I found the idea that really changed my mindset at the beginning of 2017.

the homology of profit and loss.

The original word is in chinese, I cannot find any better translation. Actually, the idea was not new, every trader successfull or not is familiar with it. I heard that loss is part of the game, for sure, but I'm really beginning to understand it after all these 3 years of profits and losses.

I put a stop order when entering a trade, I got this habbit after some painful experience at the beginning of my trading journey. I use a stop order to limit potential loss of my trade, but I never truely accept it, even I have been forced to accept the financial result of it. I noticed a subtle thought that occurs everytime when I'm about to put a stop order. I feel reluctant to click the buttom when putting to order, it is just a split of second that I feel that way, then my mind tells me what could happen without a stop order, so I click. When the price was moving towards my stop, I get nervous, I hated that. That's why I used to move my stop.

If I fully accept that loss is a part of the game, and the loss defined by my stop order is the price needed to pay for a potential profit, why would I feel what I feel about trading? If the worst senario has been defined at the beginning of the game then why would emotional pain exists in my mind.

I realized that I haven't never really accepted a loss in my mind. That's why I used to take revengeous trade right after a losing trade. That's why I double my position after a losing trade. It sounds like a capricious kid, spoiled by parents, seems to accept the rule of game at first. If he wins, ok, a happy day, if he loses he throws away all his toys, shouts at other kids, accuses other of cheating. Yes, definately, that's the little boy who was trading my account.

I can't help to laugh at myself now...I trade live acount now, but really small position. The goal is not about making profit, but to change my bad habbits and remove bad emotional energy from those behavior pattern, put positive energy into good ones. In general, make the little boy grow up.

That all, hope it helps.

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the homology of profit and loss.

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@tshunhu It is so recognizable. Yesterday I posted in my journal log my periodic review with a list of my LossTrap behaviour.
I am really convinced by be aware of your bad trade behaviour, you will be able to make other behaviour descision at the end.
You will, like me, keep repeating bad habits for a while. That is ok. Never make yourself bad.
Keep identify them and after a while we will be able to make other good trading choises unconsiously



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@tshunhu It is so recognizable. Yesterday I posted in my journal log my periodic review with a list of my LossTrap behaviour.
I am really convinced by be aware of your bad trade behaviour, you will be able to make other behaviour descision at the end.
You will, like me, keep repeating bad habits for a while. That is ok. Never make yourself bad.
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Thank you @Hanneke! I've subscribed your journal, great stuff, I really like the emoji for what you did well and not in your analysis.

BTW, I noticed that you place the drawing tool vertically on the chart in Ninjatrader, how? I've searched all the options in Ninja, but nothing useful? Thank you!

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Hi @tshunhu,

This is the indicator that I use for it: https://ninza.co/product/quick-drawing


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Good part:
Got out of my "crazy mod" quicker than I used to.
Obeyed max loss rule
No adding losing position. No double position to cover loss

Bad part:
This used to happen, not recently, should take this chance to figure it out and make a plan about it.

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Hi @tshunhu, I am currently going through a video serie of Mark Douglas called 'How to think like a pro'.
He would have said to you: you are having expectations regarding the outcome of your trade. This causes fear and is clouding to see what is really happening (in particular what happened with your FB trades).
If you like I can send you the videos. Just send me a private message with your email adress


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I've been trading for about 3 years. The first year was happy, with some luck and passion, I got some profit from the market. The second year was about paying the price for previous happiness, big $ losses, emotional pain. The third year, till now, I'm just saying that I'm starting to learn.

I've read many books about technical analysis: some about indicators, some about price charts, and some about algorithm trading and etc, but they are not suitable for me. The journey of searching a holy grail is doomed to be fruitless, I seldom feel at ease when making a trading decision: worry about potential loss before taking a position, worry about paper profit vanish when holding a position, regret about missing the rest of movement after closing a trade. Making money or not, it is not a pleasant experience.

After all these struggles, I stopped looking for solution in technical analysis, I read more books in psychology, religion, and some about trading experience. I found the idea that really changed my mindset at the beginning of 2017.

the homology of profit and loss.

The original word is in chinese, I cannot find any better translation. Actually, the idea was not new, every trader successfull or not is familiar with it. I heard that loss is part of the game, for sure, but I'm really beginning to understand it after all these 3 years of profits and losses.

I put a stop order when entering a trade, I got this habbit after some painful experience at the beginning of my trading journey. I use a stop order to limit potential loss of my trade, but I never truely accept it, even I have been forced to accept the financial result of it. I noticed a subtle thought that occurs everytime when I'm about to put a stop order. I feel reluctant to click the buttom when putting to order, it is just a split of second that I feel that way, then my mind tells me what could happen without a stop order, so I click. When the price was moving towards my stop, I get nervous, I hated that. That's why I used to move my stop.

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nice sharing of thought!
i find this helpful to address the trading pain:
The Top 10 Pains of Trading - New Trader U -
hopefully the positive probabilistic outcome will play out soon after the next 100 trades


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Training Trading Plan

1.Objectives
a)Get out of old habits / Building new behavior pattern
b)Practice Trading journal / Trading Notes
c)Practice Recognizing market statue / price pattern
2.Goal
Trade based on this plan for each pattern make 20 trades regardless of result
3.Training Plan
a)Market information process (past + new)
  • Split market movement into sections based on its behavior pattern
  • Look for Pivot points / S-R / Trend lines and take notes
  • Recognize patterns and take notes
b)Trade patterns
4.Trading Plan
a)Market Condition
i.Trading Range / Trend
ii.Direction / Form
b)Setup
i.With trend / key level pin bar breakout (001)
ii.With trend / key level inside bar breakout (002)
iii.False breakout (003)

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Thank you!

It actually based on what Mark Douglas said in the DVD you shared with me, hope it can help me get rid of my old habits.


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