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I thought that I would start posting my combine journal. I have completed 5 days of a 10 day combine..I need to put a few good days together and get my average up. I'm using the ACD method from Mark Fisher as I found that this method of trading while some what old still produces winners.

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I will work on posting images directly into the thread

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" I'm using the ACD method from Mark Fisher as I found that this method of trading while some what old still produces

winners."


I do not expect human behaviour/tendencies to change and thus any method one is comfortable with will keep on

producing results. I drink from ACD well every day.

Look forward to your interpretation of ACD.

Good Luck.

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I'm glad that your watching the thread mfbreakout.....You can expect questions from

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No trades the last few days on the combine guys......I had a roofing project going this last week and couldnt focus on trading until it was done. I will start trading again on Monday.

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forgot to post this the other......and will have a new one this afternoon
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this is better

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Still no loosing days...... 3 days left in the combine....$297 away from target

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Still no loosing days...... 3 days left in the combine....$297 away from target

Already beat

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Still no loosing days...... 3 days left in the combine....$297 away from target

Crush it.

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Congrats.....there's still a ways to go after the combine before you are trading live money...just be sure to keep your focus....you're gonna need it.

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No trades made today.

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Just found this thread.

Congrats on this progress. Will be following with interest.

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Another winning day.....2 days left in combine......$124 away from target

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ok blew the account today.....got a little greedy I guess trying to recover from a loosing trade....I'm not going to enter another combine......while the TST platform is great and has a excellent community....I think I will trade the ACD method on my live account......With sim and combine trades I profited over $4,000 using this system, I was well over 80%....so instead of spending another month in the combine I feel that I can spend that time on my live account doing exactly what I have been doing in the combine.......I will never risk more than 5% of my account

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ok blew the account today.....got a little greedy I guess trying to recover from a loosing trade....I'm not going to enter another combine......while the TST platform is great and has a excellent community....I think I will trade the ACD method on my live account......With sim and combine trades I profited over $4,000 using this system, I was well over 80%....so instead of spending another month in the combine I feel that I can spend that time on my live account doing exactly what I have been doing in the combine.......I will never risk more than 5% of my account

Sorry to see it end this way.

Best of luck in your own trading.

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Did you trade differently to normal because you tried to meet some Combine criteria (apart from profit)?

Otherwise, if it was emotional trading, do you think your live account will withstand the risk of it happening again better than sim or another Combine?

Maybe also reconsider if it's useful counting sim money you haven't put in your live account. There is a reason it was sim and it's better to think about that experience as a stage towards your next goal. Your performance may be quite different next month as you know.

You were showing great results. But I'm not sure you are making right conclusions about your progress.

In any case, best of luck!

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Sucks, mainly cause you proved me wrong and everyone who read that has to die!!



Sucks for sure, emotional days or the fear of them are what's holding me back currently, too many times I've wiped out 3 months of steady profit in a single well trade, but learn and move on.


Someones got to beat a combine and go on to make actual cash please!!

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ok blew the account today.....got a little greedy I guess trying to recover from a loosing trade....I'm not going to enter another combine......while the TST platform is great and has a excellent community....I think I will trade the ACD method on my live account......With sim and combine trades I profited over $4,000 using this system, I was well over 80%....so instead of spending another month in the combine I feel that I can spend that time on my live account doing exactly what I have been doing in the combine.......I will never risk more than 5% of my account

I really know how you feel and how disappointed you are because I've been there and done that.
I managed to blow a $150k combine on day 19...and the worst thing was that I killed my pretty good chance to get a rollover as well.
So, I'd suggest to step back from trading for a while and take your time to recover mentally...and after that, I'd bet that you will take another combine just because YOU know that YOU can make it !

BTW, IMHO risking 5% of your account capital on a single trade is too much risk...I'd suggest to exposure no more than 2%, but that's only me.

However, I wish you best of luck on your ongoing journey.

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Thanks guys.......I had just forgot that even though I had a stop.....the combine will close your trade if you hit the 500$ daily limit automatic ......the trade did end up hitting my target......so I'm not down or even up set.....I know the trade was a winner and I was so sure, that I took it again on my live account and made about a $120.

There will all ways be looser's on any strategy. I'm very confident with the ACD method. Besides it was going to cost me about $400 a month just to trade the instruments that I like to trade.

Once again the TST program is great place to hone your skills and learn......and the community is awesome. Perhaps later on I will enter a custom combine that better fits the way I trade.....but for now I feel that I can add a few thousand to my live account and trade the ACD method successfully.

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Thanks guys.......I had just forgot that even though I had a stop.....the combine will close your trade if you hit the 500$ daily limit automatic ......the trade did end up hitting my target......so I'm not down or even up set.....I know the trade was a winner and I was so sure, that I took it again on my live account and made about a $120.

IMHO TST doesn't close your trade and / or combine if you hit your daily loss limit during a trade, but only if you close your trade and hit your DLL....that sounds strange since I hit my DLL during a trade as well but managed to close it way above my DLL...

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no it closed it.......I'm sure

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IMHO TST doesn't close your trade and / or combine if you hit your daily loss limit during a trade, but only if you close your trade and hit your DLL....that sounds strange since I hit my DLL during a trade as well but managed to close it way above my DLL...

I believed the same too. Only if you CLOSE that losing position, and take the loss, making you hit your DLL.

Maybe you ought to post on AMA topstep and get an answer. You are so close to the finishing line. Sorry bout that.


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I believed the same too. Only if you CLOSE that losing position, and take the loss, making you hit your DLL.

Maybe you ought to post on AMA topstep and get an answer. You are so close to the finishing line. Sorry bout that.


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It may be platform dependent. For example I know for a fact that if you're using Sierra, the platform will close your position for you if you reach your limit. So if your daily stoploss has been reached but you're still in a trade that hasn't yet reached your stop loss for that trade,...you will be forcefully taken out of the trade. I wouldn't be surprised if Ninja is the same.

Not sure about T4.

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Still no loosing days...... 3 days left in the combine....$297 away from target

Great going!

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Still no loosing days...... 3 days left in the combine....$297 away from target

Great going!

All the best!

EDIT: Hadn't read the latest updates. @Bsinks, the DLL is the only thing you can control, unlike what the market does.

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It may be platform dependent. For example I know for a fact that if you're using Sierra, the platform will close your position for you if you reach your limit. So if your daily stoploss has been reached but you're still in a trade that hasn't yet reached your stop loss for that trade,...you will be forcefully taken out of the trade. I wouldn't be surprised if Ninja is the same.

Not sure about T4.

Ahhh.... You are probably right. I'm using T4.

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With 3 days to go in my latest combine I was unable to reach the winning pct goal,so I decided to just jerk around a bit. I hit my max trailing drawdown during a trade,but it wasn't closed immediately.

I'm also using T4.

On the last 2 days I managed to get it back in the green . The psychological aspect is so important. Just thinking about that winning pct made me hesitate to take trades. When it was no longer a concern I could trade freely.

A bit to go before I can pass one ,but I won't give up

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It may be platform dependent. For example I know for a fact that if you're using Sierra, the platform will close your position for you if you reach your limit. So if your daily stoploss has been reached but you're still in a trade that hasn't yet reached your stop loss for that trade,...you will be forcefully taken out of the trade. I wouldn't be surprised if Ninja is the same.

Not sure about T4.

With T4, you not only don't get taken out whilst in a trade (but under DDL), you can still continue to trade the combine even when there's no chance of you rolling over/passing!

I was very surprised with regards to the first point because you could theoretically double your DDL and still pass. Not the best money management strategy!

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Ahhh.... You are probably right. I'm using T4.

mykee

I'm using Ninja Trader and this did definitely not happen to me when I was in a similar situation.

It still looks strange, and it would be worth a question to the TST support team...

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I'm using Ninja Trader and this did definitely not happen to me when I was in a similar situation.

It still looks strange, and it would be worth a question to the TST support team...

Interesting. Well it certainly does happen with Sierra.

I presume that forcefully being taken out of the trade when the loss limit has been reached is the desired behavior by TST.

Think about it, you've just reached your loss limit for the combine but you're still in the trade. So you decide to throw every single good trading practice out the window and quite literally go for broke. You increase your stop loss so that it will never be hit, and you just sit and wait to see if the market comes back your way.

My guess is that is not a trader TST will fund, and will certainly put them through LTP at a bare minimum.

Having reached the loss limit you can still continue trading the combine,...however it is just not eligible for review/funding.

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Think about it, you've just reached your loss limit for the combine but you're still in the trade. So you decide to throw every single good trading practice out the window and quite literally go for broke. You increase your stop loss so that it will never be hit, and you just sit and wait to see if the market comes back your way.

My guess is that is not a trader TST will fund, and will certainly put them through LTP at a bare minimum.

Exactly, I don't think that this is the desired behavior TST would look for.

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I'm using Ninja Trader and this did definitely not happen to me when I was in a similar situation.


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Interesting. Well it certainly does happen with Sierra.

I presume that forcefully being taken out of the trade when the loss limit has been reached is the desired behavior by TST.

My guess is that is not a trader TST will fund, and will certainly put them through LTP at a bare minimum.


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I believed the same too. Only if you CLOSE that losing position, and take the loss, making you hit your DLL.


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Ahhh.... You are probably right. I'm using T4.

mykee


I think the thing is that neither Ninja nor Sierra had centralized risk management controls and reporting built-in, but T4 did. When TsT added Ninja to their lineup, you may remember that it was a long time before it was ready. They were having some sort of modifications made that gave them both the reporting and the risk management they wanted -- and I expect that once they had it, they did about the same with Sierra. So they probably made sure that they got all the rules put in that they wanted to have, but with T4 I don't think they customized anything, just took what was there.

This is a bit of a guess, but it makes sense, considering the different behaviors of the platforms that people are seeing.

Bob.

Edit: I just looked over the other posts again, and I'm not sure about this explanation, because we have some using Ninja who report that they were closed out automatically in the trade, and some -- @Daytrader999 -- saying they were not. Possibly TsT has made a recent change? Or possibly, my theory is no good?

I hate to give up a good theory....

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Edit: I just looked over the other posts again, and I'm not sure about this explanation, because we have some using Ninja who report that they were closed out automatically in the trade, and some -- @Daytrader999 -- saying they were not. Possibly TsT has made a recent change? Or possibly, my theory is no good?

I hate to give up a good theory....

Well, since I've been in this situation a few months ago, I really can't say if this still applies to Ninja Trader combines...and to be honest, I'd be glad if I don't have to find this out one more time.

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I did a combine on T4 where I was able to hold my trade through daily draw down limit (actually ended up coming back that day and ending like breakeven)

Anyways, next combine on ninjatrader I got stopped out, forced out of positions and blew the account :/

You live and you learn! So i just had to keep that in mind when I did my next combine

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no it closed it.......I'm sure

Please talk a bit more about what happen on that last day. Since you will not do another combine, one of the best lessons here will be what happen and how you plan on correcting the issue that caused you to fail on the last day.

What were the trades that put you down for the day before the last one? What were you thinking? Feeling? How did effect you executing your plan?

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I had a trade earlier in the morning that moved against me and was down 300 on 1 contract......where I had my limit order the trade was actually excuted 10 tics against me but showed a positive amount so I closed the trade and ended up 300 down (something wrong with ninja)....this has happened a couple of times last week and week before. So I was down 300.........took another trade on another instrument and had a good entry.......the trade moved against about 200 dollars and then close......never got close to my stop and ended up being a 770 dollar winner......I trade the ACD method.....opening range........I might do another combine later if needed.......but I made a $620 profit on my live account sense loosing the combine.......Its no big deal.......I'm pretty sure that I read in TST web site or in the squawk room that if your daily loss limit is reached it will close the trade. So that's what happened

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I had a trade earlier in the morning that moved against me and was down 300 on 1 contract......where I had my limit order the trade was actually excuted 10 tics against me but showed a positive amount so I closed the trade and ended up 300 down (something wrong with ninja)....this has happened a couple of times last week and week before. So I was down 300.........took another trade on another instrument and had a good entry.......the trade moved against about 200 dollars and then close......never got close to my stop and ended up being a 770 dollar winner......I trade the ACD method.....opening range........I might do another combine later if needed.......but I made a $620 profit on my live account sense loosing the combine.......Its no big deal.......I'm pretty sure that I read in TST web site or in the squawk room that if your daily loss limit is reached it will close the trade. So that's what happened

Sounds like you're right.

You made a good effort, and you've got a good method.... Whichever you choose, go for it.

Great job, good luck.

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......never got close to my stop and ended up being a 770 dollar winner......I trade the ACD method.....opening range........I might do another combine later if needed.......but I made a $620 profit on my live account sense loosing the combine.......Its no big deal.......


This has happened to me so many times!

Its just mental gymnastics, and cherrypicking does more harm than good, but I've taken the FOMO trades on the combine account, only to work out what the market was likely to do (once you are in position the market movements seem to stand out!) and then taking the proper trade in my live account - some of which went to be big winners.

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