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I won't be questioning your beliefs. We may have different opinion on what a comfortable method means. I just comment on your results and your own observations.

As you didn't mention anything about your track record with this method, I will assume you have one and it is satisfactory.

One last thing I'd like to bring up. Feeling comfortable in the financial markets may contribute to your longevity, but not necessarily to your prosperity.

Hopefully euro will pick up soon and will provide you more opportunities to further build your confidence.

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I won't be questioning your beliefs. We may have different opinion on what a comfortable method means. I just comment on your results and your own observations.

As you didn't mention anything about your track record with this method, I will assume you have one and it is satisfactory.

One last thing I'd like to bring up. Feeling comfortable in the financial markets may contribute to your longevity, but not necessarily to your prosperity.

Hopefully euro will pick up soon and will provide you more opportunities to further build your confidence.


I have a perfect track record on sim AND small don't care accounts. The method is sound - it worked for me even when the Euro was dead last year target = 7 ticks instead of 10!

The other point you brought up is very well put: you are right and (I think you said that earlier) I believe that prosperity comes when you focus on the processes that put put the odds in your side.

The markets are like a fist fight, so comfort isn't a parameter at all.


I think Ryan Jones said "The market is about as intellectually challenging as a fist fight. In that regard, the best thing you can do is guard your mustache and jab on the run."

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Great discussion @isla, @iqgod

For me the 'mindfulness' that is talked about is just the state when conscious processes are no longer needed, the brain using heuristics of which we may, or may not, be aware. For me it's less mind, not more.

So long as we have done the preparation work and all the training needed to form the habits that get us out of the way of ourselves then it will happen - but - only with an edge that works, otherwise there can be no confidence or game to be played, only the usual losses and emotional carnage that we all experience when we are out of step.

If the edge works, we can work. If not, we have nothing on which to base our mental, physical and emotional training anyway.

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Great discussion @isla, @iqgod

For me the 'mindfulness' that is talked about is just the state when conscious processes are no longer needed, the brain using heuristics of which we may, or may not, be aware. For me it's less mind, not more.

So long as we have done the preparation work and all the training needed to form the habits that get us out of the way of ourselves then it will happen - but - only with an edge that works, otherwise there can be no confidence or game to be played, only the usual losses and emotional carnage that we all experience when we are out of step.

If the edge works, we can work. If not, we have nothing on which to base our mental, physical and emotional training anyway.

Veterans tell us that edges are not eternal - they stop working or something in them has to be adapted.

There isn't too much to prove that an edge 'works' other than a rising equity curve, and even then 'Fooled by Randomness'. Caveat emptor is true, but go to the mall we must.

But I get this one thing right: inside me I KNOW CALM when I acted right yet lost money.

It is only when I act wrong (and either make money or take losses) that the door opens to regret, denial, animosity, dismay, euphoria, recklessness, carelessness, superstition, ego, disregard, illusion.

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Veterans tell us that edges are not eternal - they stop working or something in them has to be adapted.

There isn't too much to prove that an edge 'works' other than a rising equity curve, and even then 'Fooled by Randomness'. Caveat emptor is true, but go to the mall we must.

For an 'edge', I agree, that's a market 'how'. Most rule based, technical and algo bots get stuck here too.

For an 'Edge', I disagree, that's a market 'why'. Some humans stay here and are always adapting without effort, because much deeper heuristics are running. Bots will get here one day.

Anyway, as Humpty Dumpty said, a word means just what I intended it to mean. Or in this case something different.

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Veterans tell us that edges are not eternal - they stop working or something in them has to be adapted.

There isn't too much to prove that an edge 'works' other than a rising equity curve, and even then 'Fooled by Randomness'. Caveat emptor is true, but go to the mall we must.

But I get this one thing right: inside me I KNOW CALM when I acted right yet lost money.

It is only when I act wrong (and either make money or take losses) that the door opens to regret, denial, animosity, dismay, euphoria, recklessness, carelessness, superstition, ego, disregard, illusion.

All edges are fleeting. And everything we see in the market is an illusion, even price itself.

Only those able to evolve over time have been able to stay. Used to be the best in the pit, then came the screen and many of those couldn't compete, then came HFT and algos, and so on and so on.

One of the hardest things to do is determine when you have an edge, execute as hard and fast as possible, and then when that edge is gone get out and stay out of the market.

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For an 'edge', I agree, that's a market 'how'. Most rule based, technical and algo bots get stuck here too.

For an 'Edge', I disagree, that's a market 'why'. Some humans stay here and are always adapting without effort, because much deeper heuristics are running. Bots will get here one day.

Anyway, as Humpty Dumpty said, a word means just what I intended it to mean. Or in this case something different.

This is either astonishingly profound, or just astonishing. ()

But I do think your point (about Edges) is a good one.

Bob.

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I traded the ES today because of two reasons: 1. saw a proper setup ; 2. wanted to have it as a permitted product as a LTP / funded trader because you only get the products which you have traded in a combine.

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