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Oh, I should have clarìfied I meant my personal account

That occurred to me about 5 seconds after I posted...

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Narrowly dodged a bullet today. I made 900 but after traded realized I did not roll over to August contract. I was wondering why volume is real low today and decided due to end of the month. It was low but still tradable. .


There is a cheat sheet I saw somewhere that lists all the contracts with rollover dates. Same thing happened to me on CL rollover last week. It's hard to remember cause every contract is peculiar that way.

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Then I found out it rolled to August. Hoag contacted me by the end of the day. They let me go with it but took away todays profits. I think it's fair.

I wonder if had it been a 900 bucks loss, would have they taken it away? I don't think the volume affected the trade, so there was no point in taking it away. A warning would have been sufficient...

But I am not running their show...

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I wonder if had it been a 900 bucks loss, would have they taken it away? I don't think the volume affected the trade, so there was no point in taking it away. A warning would have been sufficient...

But I am not running their show...

They do say you have to trade the front month, so taking away the day's profit seems reasonable, considering they could have probably considered the LTP a "failure" because of it (they are smart that they did not take more drastic action).


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I wonder if had it been a 900 bucks loss, would have they taken it away? I don't think the volume affected the trade, so there was no point in taking it away. A warning would have been sufficient...

But I am not running their show...

Actually Hoag did let me go with it but an hour or so later he called again. Apparently decision to cut came from equity partner a.k.a. PTP..
At least I am still in the game.

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There is a cheat sheet I saw somewhere that lists all the contracts with rollover dates. Same thing happened to me on CL rollover last week. It's hard to remember cause every contract is peculiar that way.

Thanks!

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Man am I glad they didn't bounce you for that!! You did such a great job in your combine, I hope you get your shot at the whole deal.

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I'm sure they wouldn't bounce you and docking the 900 is a slap on the wrist ... a friendly one at that. Let's Xelaar know that the eyes are on him !

This is what he LTP is for. Getting used to the formality of the the organization.

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I'm sure they wouldn't bounce you and docking the 900 is a slap on the wrist ... a friendly one at that. Let's Xelaar know that the eyes are on him !

This is what he LTP is for. Getting used to the formality of the the organization.

p

Actually I was surprised they reacted so fast and took it so seriously. I thought they would look upon it only after completion and was bit worried I would do LTP and then they ground me retrospectively founding out I traded wrong contract one time. So all good.

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They do say you have to trade the front month,[/I]

Sure, understood. What is not understood that with their gazillion rules, how do they expect the traders to know and follow all and not to miss any by accident? Why not just write the software that way that it doesn't even allow trading outside the restrictions??? This is the 21st century or what...

Oh yes, because that would be too easy.....

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