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pinch between a brekdown and break up if up i call 1363

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another high risk long - the A&D is still heavily short -you are seeing today if you play the long side you are high risk over and over -just take a few ticks on the high risk plays and get out and wait for the next short or long setup -
this is where traders get killed looking for the homeruns off the base -

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freetrade zone

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exit 3 ticks on remainder-i did not short this move-but 45.75 was a short zone with 4 ticks of risk

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breakdown 45.75 short still in play

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know your limits

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if 47.75 shorted = 1.5 points

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another high risk long entry 4 tick stop hit

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looking for 3 line break to go long @44.50

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past the freetrade zone-will let run till signal

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am maintaing my long due to A&D climbing higher -but here was exiting zone

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A&D

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note position of trendline after the jump

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exit

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A&D still very weak -we hope we showed today that its important to know market direction

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showing another long entry point 7 ticks of risk

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this is a high risk play as described earlier -

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trendline a&d

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freetrade

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pressing the trendline

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target

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target zone same as earlier post

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flat 1349.25 for 6 points -that completes the week-please pay attention to todays deliberate counter trend trading till the final move -and ask yourself if you have ever done this ?

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chart

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could not resist

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Hi there...

I'm trying to follow this method but I'm having a really hard time understanding how you come up with the numbers for the moving averages and then I don't understand the setups and how to determine the targets and stop areas.

Do you think that you could write out some more instructions on how you do this?

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Hi there...

I'm trying to follow this method but I'm having a really hard time understanding how you come up with the numbers for the moving averages and then I don't understand the setups and how to determine the targets and stop areas.

Do you think that you could write out some more instructions on how you do this?

Thanks!

-Alli

Alli -send me 2 different moving ave and we will set you up a chart -and tell you what is right or wrong about your choice -

next- target for yesturday was and easy 1 as the was only 1 crossover in my setups

as for setups and stops -please go back a re-read the 500 plus post in this thread and you will see the same thing over and over

i guess the bottom line is this
7 tick stop max stop setups -all the time -never question it (pic 45.75)

1-trendstarts

2-ma's crossed

3-lower ma broke trendline

4-due to ma breaking trendline this ma is now in a fixed position -its done being floated on the right side

5-price line at the cross of ma and trendline

6-50% fib splits last high between the higher and lower ma's(weakness / strength)

7-entry circle -45.75 gave you less than 40 seconds to ge in that tight

8-stop-4 ticks well inside of our 7 tick limit -please understand this if it takes out the stop then a new trendline will be started -please go back a few pages to the jumpers of the price line-thats why you need to exit on the break -we also run a 19 tick hard stop for news ambushes and only activate out stop when the chart shows it may touch it

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now here is a chart of the floating trendline adjusting as the price gets higher -please see how each color is used to show the zone of the high -

also - the green area was a very short term technical break but due to the a&d moving upward i decided not to exit the trade

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1- green technical break -and a&d same area

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time


will try and explain time when on the wrong side of a trade and why it will kill your account and your mental state of mind -
notice the chart items 1 and 2
1- you see how a high was set and sold off

2- so you decide this is a good place to short as it sold off here before

now the trade goes against you -you have no real stop in mind (just mental pain )

notice the time bar -how far it is from the floating ma -for the trade to come into your favor ,that upper ma has to cross the floating trendline-the market is buying time for itself to take your money-(green bar)

now notice the grey bar and the new high -look at the time it will take for the ma to cross the new grey trendline -

this is why when you dont have any real exit point system -you can hurt yourself very badly

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control your risk

1-short signal break

2- short entry

3 long signal break

4 exit short trade instead of taking chance at full stop which in this case was 5 ticks



trade had a zero theory loss other than commission

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same area larger view

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i hope anyone reading sees the value of time and distance when or the correct side of the trade to reward and risk and

also the devalue of time and distance when on the wrong side of the trade to risk and reward-

using this easy edge system -even if you dont try and play turn to turn on every single pivot -you can at least control your negitive side in the market both in time and mental capacity -

and you will see over time when your positive time in the market out weighs your negative time in the market you will become a better controlled trader-both mentally and in your account

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now this is the follow up to post #531 -
just 5 min later the next short setup occurs -
this 1 has 7 ticks of risk
but provided a 6 tick profit -
its better when first trading this system to work trade to trade --rather than pivot to pivot -untill your chart setup timing increases

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a time dragging short that finally had a little break -if this ends up with 1 point of profit it will be a good trade at this point

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banked 3 points down here -will walk away for a little bit to see what happens

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as you see this trade gave no indication to exit -it was out of boredom- and it continues to drop @ this time 1341 it would have been another 100 dollars on the trade or a 66% increase in profit from our exit -we banked 150 for the 1 contract and it should have been at this point 250 -try never to predict what you feel will happen

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also note on the last chart i have removed the 0 and 100 lines from my fib setup to keep my chart easier to read and cleaner i guess-thus only the 50% shows -but can still mentally see the 0 and 100

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finally got the exit signal and a long signal1342.25 with a 1340.75 stop exit reversal on the short (6 ticks of risk)

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FTZ

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same pattern different direction -still long the 42.25 area watching my a&d and plotting the moves (L)(S)

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on the A&D when the price hits the blue line the trend circled will be reset

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reset

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today thus far

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how high could this market go to burn up all the time on the red line till the ma crosses the trendline(grey is not in play)

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A&D testing its new channel

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trade complete currently flat

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we have a short setup at 46.25 but due to the a&d being in and uptrend i am leary of taking it -i am cherry picking today -if i were pivot trading the trade is in my rules as it has a 7 tick stop -when pivot trading you have to take them all

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now we have 2 complete trendlines that crossed and look at where the market played for support

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20 min plus

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a&d chart 50 % fib play for and anticapated long high risk as stop is 1 tick below the low of the day- no long signal on es as of yet

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did not take the short but it paid 2 .75 points

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FTZ banked

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we did not take the short signal do to a&d play -stop still 6 ticks

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a&d

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will be interesting -
es running flat
a&d still climbing

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last drop found support at the cross from 10 am target redline -no-guarantees-will let run till close stop in place-

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just returned -missed my exit by 2 ticks -flat on the trade for 4 points now

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we will be off today -good skill in your trading

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bottom play?

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trade complete

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stop cleaner play

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as i listened to the market wizards webinar a 2nd time -i got to wondering if the pivot crosses created with the easy edge system -could be used in gann theory or the a-b-c-d- pivot system -using either price or time -point to ponder for mathletes -at some point wed i will post a chart with 3 or 4 crosses and price at the cross for a reference

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here is a 1600 tick chart with 3 pivots marked -does anyone know if there is some sort of pivot calculator available to test this -this is just out of curiosity -thanks

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nice low risk short the longer it stays here the higher the risk becareful

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broke support

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if we get near 1326 with out a long signal i may exit

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FTZ

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lower support

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also

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A&D held +2 then broke -2 will hold the short to see if -6 comes into play as plus 6 was the high

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flat at 31

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long signal

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held my strongest ma on the a&D

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trade what you see not what you think -if we would have stuck to the plan we would be up 4 points on this long

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watching these 2

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got my answer

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nice long

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flat for 6.5 points but the trade gave no exit signal

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should have checked this before i got out

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short signal/exit if we would have held

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flat @ 1336 on the short 2.75 points

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3X ETFS

SPXL-for bull side

SPXS-for bear side

could we use this system to triple our performance-

a few test to come-

what if you tracked your favorite sector and 3X traded it

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hit both lows over night

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spxl

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hit both lows over night

Love the chart, CB

Fractals always look so avant garde


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please explain what you mean -thanks




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Love the chart, CB

Fractals always look so avant garde


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spxl

tried to check out the option price -

looks like a 400 dollar contract on this move would have made 200 dollars or 50%

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please explain what you mean -thanks

Nothing negative friend

I just like the look of fractal lines - the look "modern"


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thanks td -i just did not understand the terminology-



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Nothing negative friend

I just like the look of fractal lines - the look "modern"


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F16 trade series

1 -long

2- failed to exit on the break

3 -took stop

4- long

5- exit (her dog had to go pee) true statement

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just showing some future cross targets

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A&D broke north of 2 trendlines

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notice the 7 tick entry box and the black priceline today -i am using them to keep track of the top stop zone for when the trend starts to break-also there are so many trendlines i altered the color of the 1 in play-the black line and entry box will keep moving up as the price gets higher and higher

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waiting for this ma to cross back above -14

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topping pattern

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nice 27 entry short box and stop line in place

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1--coming up to meet and old friend

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1= wall of resistance / support

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plus 5

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