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this is a tight play as chart pivot is at 1310.30 at this time---2:32 est

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target 1313 at this time

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out 12.75 with the touch of 13 for 3.5 points

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this play is still technically long -but we are scalping so thats why we exited

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blue dotted line - with the yellow circle -is trend line - dropping slightly left till a higher high is put in - up trend in tact till this blue dotted line broken - super high risk trade up at this level -another good reason to exit

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pivot at 1310.60

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you can see now the longer term trend line has turned up looking for 1317 now

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i believe today is a trap day -

the break of 1314.50 shows down side -but i would still like to see a push on the current short stops to the 1328.50 area for 1 last cleaning -time will tell -but for me it will be very careful trading today

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you see on the big chart we have broken support and the next level down is 09.50 then the search for the blue dotted down trend thats in the lower left hand corner of the screen

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notice the yellow oval - the s/r line of the first low - see how it never closed above it - this is why it is best never to guess or think you know what will happen - a new low has now been put in which will change the trend line

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next lower low setup - notice the yellow box we will be using to help determine the 7 tick height and exit entry zones

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we entered @ 10.75 circled area and exited @ 13 even -looking for the first touch of ma on 2nd chart -trader 15 is done for the day 107.50 captured would like 88 dollars over next 2 days

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you see on the big chart we have broken support and the next level down is 09.50 then the search for the blue dotted down trend thats in the lower left hand corner of the screen



we hit our target for bottom -nice entry within our 7 tick loss rules -hope to ride this all day -as we entered our free trade agreement

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target 1327 area -a bold call but time will tell-remember we have 0 risk on this trade now -and we have broken above the wall so we hope it holds

1- entry

2- stop held

3- above the wall

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4 good sign - ma crossover on the greater chart

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smoking some hopium -as nexttarget is up @ 20 level

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5 nice bounce off new upward fexible trend line - blue line good exit for banking mutiple contract traders (6 point ) to ensure profit does not erode away

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6 nice target zone to reduce

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nice 10 point trade now notice with new high the trend line will lower

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hoping shorts are trapped under 17.50 -to keep profit locked

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7- just showing the trading box for entry and exit -nice short scalper trade

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8- trend break

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9-another nice entry box setup

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this setup never gave a good low risk entry - broke above the s/r line but never retraced enough to get a low risk trade

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greater chart same setup see the wall if wanting to take a long trade -ma's and trend line dropping

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blue line is pivot area from overnight

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notice new trend line great chart (orange ) ran from the cross of green/purple to the center of ma's at the high of 12:46 area est -to establish direction - be wary of trying to short the upper zone at this point as we are above 5 major trendlines

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calculated shorting zone -extreme high risk as far as i am concerned - please refer to last post

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i believe today is a trap day -

the break of 1314.50 shows down side -but i would still like to see a push on the current short stops to the 1328.50 area for 1 last cleaning -time will tell -but for me it will be very careful trading today

still inside its 05/29 range all trend lines broke -sometimes its nice to walk away for 1 hour to see the new look

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will try a small position bounce play @ 1306.50

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going flat at minus 2 ticks no solid reaction for the bounce to 9 i was hoping for -but the 5 range would have been a better play for 6 ticks

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oh well my height and timing were somewhat off -till tommorrow -we will see what happens

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long at the news -stop below the low - high risk as its greater than 7 ticks

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flat -minus 5 ticks

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was looking for a pop to 1311 -will wait till after the open

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nice entry setup

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nice short 5 tick risk entry -1 tick from free trade area

pivot @ 9.50 area

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good profit zone on scalpes

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nice tap of greater chart pivot zone

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another nice scalper entry

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look at all the levels greater chart

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lesser chart has entered free trade area

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called a short @ 1316.50 for trader 15 and he plugged the long side -caught it but lost 1 tick

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walking away for 45 min

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just returned and timing is everything sometimes -very sweet top setup -very low risk but missed the edge so will watch it run

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stuck inside the wall if wall breaks 14 target

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higher high - would like to see a close below the redline -5 ticks of risk at this time

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taking a high risk short here @ 1320.25

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flat

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have you ever had someone need you at the wrong time when you are trading -lol-

well i am sure there are a million more trades coming

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here is a little homemade indicator i have used in the past to chart movement confirmation -
its and A&D or advancer / decliners - on a 2 min time table -the fib lines were created from the highest high and low over the past 10 days then split to 50% then each area is split to 50 % over and over till the range between bars is about 250 points

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same setup we use on other charts-A&D bounce / breakdown zone

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here is a little homemade indicator i have used in the past to chart movement confirmation -
its and A&D or advancer / decliners - on a 2 min time table -the fib lines were created from the highest high and low over the past 10 days then split to 50% then each area is split to 50 % over and over till the range between bars is about 250 points

@ cory,

Could you please decode this into an NT indy ?

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i have never seen NT -so am unsure of what it would be





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Could you please decode this into an NT indy ?

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this call was a day early






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target 1327 area -a bold call but time will tell-remember we have 0 risk on this trade now -and we have broken above the wall so we hope it holds

1- entry

2- stop held

3- above the wall


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you can see on the A&D how it used the 50% line marked in the other post as its p/b zone after the 3:00 left for yuma and returned just 24 min later

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short 24

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1/2 off 22.75 free trade target 20.25 or 1292

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trader 15 will have no trades today -ended his first week at 82.50 profit -with a whole list of newbie mistakes -will start fresh monday

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here is trader 15's partial blotter - its a little lower than the 5200 i thought was in there - but now that i have checked it -this is where the start will be for the week - this post contains the 1 tick loss plus commission from thursday -when he hit the longside on a short call -now we are square with the post from here -sorry for any confusion on this-have not decided if i will post blotter everyday a trade is made or just at the end of the week - time will tell i guess - this account is locked at 1 contract -and we run a 7 tick stop


Segregated Ledger Open Trade Total



Beginning balance 4,900.00 - 4,900.00



Activity ____-_1_7_.50 _________- ____-_1_7_.50



Ending balance US$ 4,882.50 - 4,882.50



Total US$ Equivalent Ledger Open Trade Total



Segregated 4,882.50 - 4,882.50



Net Liquidating Value


4,882.50



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Should be a fun read . . .thanks.

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It would be a good experience for the 15 y.o. to keep his journal here at futures.io (formerly BMT) and document the rules. Lurkers might be enlightened.

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we wont be trading today -i have a bad case of the crabbies as my wife puts it -do want to press into anything

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today i have decided to pressure test trader 15 -i want him to react instead of think about what he will do -he will be told the entry and stops with no target zone -will most likely update the journal on a 1 to 1.5 hour basis so i can keep focus on trader 15 - so all calls will most likely be played out when posted -however the blotter will be posted for the 19th tommorrow -and any readers will be able to line up the trades in there time slots-good luck today

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plethora -thanks for the response -we will look into this







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there will not be any trades today for trader 15 -due to his nervious tension - he was clearing his throat over and over -and when we closed out his trading screen it stopped nearly instantly -so we will see what 6/20 brings -this is a little tougher than i had thought

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sorry for the delay -we are still in test formation with trader 15 -shooting for monday start now -

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trader 15 -quit on monday after 16 / 3 tick losses -i think the account took a 660 dollar hit and knocked it back to 4220 area-
am actively looking for another

time will tell -

sometimes the obvious is so obvious that it not even obvious anymore -

i learned i cant give as much free range next time

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sometimes the obvious is so obvious that it not even obvious anymore -

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its only obvious to you, that's why I said even if you disclose MA setting it will change nothing nobody will know what do to with them anyway.

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yes, I read this thread many times, but still confused and this east edge is only for you

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the sad fact was -that if he would have taken his scalper profit he would have been fine - time will tell - please dont compare yourself with a 15 yearold with 2 weeks experiance






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its only obvious to you, that's why I said even if you disclose MA setting it will change nothing nobody will know what do to with them anyway.


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hope this helps -also you will see where the lack of taking profits will lead to a loss while looking for homeruns

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same

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no short signal yet

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reduced @ 1325.25 for 7 points on the long-

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chop = scalping

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now look at this chart -you see the short scalps and the long scalps -also you see just pivot reversals -but dont do this by hitting the reversal button or the game will take and extra 2 ticks from you and you will fail -

however you see if you keep playing focused on the reversal pivots in chop -the runner will set and you can score a few point move

maybe 21.75 will hit

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6 ticks of risk

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chart explains-

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so, what is the reason for entry? break out 50%? is that reason?

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reduced at 25.25 for free trade agreement -

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so, what is the reason for entry? break out 50%? is that reason?

backtest and you will see -how the 50% plays in as support -just like most other fib plays -there are many other post on this thread that show the same setups -

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maybe 21.75 will hit -

this was from a crossover as previously explained in past post -

notice in new chart how our 50% zones off the highs become our stops for our trade and to look for trigger reversals

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i exited all @ 1326.75 for lunch -you see the support line getting thinner = weaker

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A&D momentum chart still shows uptrend as of 1:12 est -

notice the 50% fib -all the north and south bound breaks -
you need to be aware that if you are short and the ma crosses north again on the 50% fib thats a sure exit to wait for a better setup -i see them when it occurs as a side ways move

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here is the sideways action -if you chose to stay in it - all the longs and shorts at the same basic area -waiting for the move -

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the red dot is where we anticapated a long trade form 25.25 - note the drop and how the floating trend line always stayed at the 50% fib as each lower low was set -this is why you should never try to guess where the power turn is -as as each lower tick creates TIME AND DISTANCE between the base and the 50% crossover

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if you try to go long before the lower ma crosses the fib -it could very walk against you

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getting closer

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now looking for the 50 % break -both price and ma

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notice how the price never got above the 50% fib and was stopped out at the exit

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next setup after stop out -so have you ever wondered how 1 tick lower stop outs occur

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now see how the ma crossed back below the trendline -this is a good exit or reversal to a short -to help reduce your loss exposure

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now see the A&D has been slowly selling off while he have been anticapating a long trade

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now as you review back the last several entries -you will see the fib box ( area of wall between the 0 and 100% )getting smaller and smaller

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another decision zone
note small buying on A&D
stuck between 50% and lower fib base
4 tick risk
never closed above 50%

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