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ok-now i am really done -if we would have held the trade and it reached 84.25 -we would have banked 100 points on the week -even though we only traded 4 days this week -have a great weekend

Good Luck trading next week, I will be traveling and will not be trading till the 6th.

I have a few question about jumpers,etc once Im back I ll send chart explaining to see your thoughts.

Tell F16 not to take all the ES pts while Im gone

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have fun on your travels -

i hope too see timefreedom or programer post some charts for comparison this week -not worried about the trades just there thoughts through the charts -like starts -exits -or why there exited -jumpers -secondary charts they may watch to keep them in a trade or get them out when the gettings good -







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Good Luck trading next week, I will be traveling and will not be trading till the 6th.

I have a few question about jumpers,etc once Im back I ll send chart explaining to see your thoughts.

Tell F16 not to take all the ES pts while Im gone


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i received the lower message in and email -

Tomorrow will be July 30th, the 212th day of the year with 154 days to follow, we will also be in the 31st week of 2012

he wanted to know how i would use these numbers for the ma's today -its all in what i see that day in a number -12 and 30 +31+1+5+4+2+2 =75

so 12/ 75 remember its the system -of the floating ma -the numbers have to be in a range with the chart you choose to keep your 7 tick risk at a maximum -and to allow you to enter as many trades in a day as possible in the 7 tick risk zone - so if you try to trade a 10 min chart using those #s with our outlined risk it most likely wont work -

but if your desire for risk is 4 points it may work all the time -

dial in the chart your comfortable in using for speed of your style -then work on your ma's combination thats works with the 7 tick risk ,or lower risk, if thats even better- then back test it on every stock ,and futures chart until your satisfied with your results -you will learn that you have dialed in a chart style that yours and only yours -untill you share it with 30,000 friends :tape:

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here is a segament of chart from today -if you ever wonder why a trade goes against you -right after you enter the easy edge system can show you the answer-

1- you short 1384 per system -the trade goes in our favor all of 1 full point -

2-trade goes long @ 1383.75 -you dont know this system and the trade is now 3.5 points against you -

whenn the proper thing to do was exit out of the short and go long after only 1 tick of profit -

i guess what i am trying to show is why a trade goes wrong -please also refer to post 470 and 527

:when you cheat -you only cheat yourself
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here is a boredom trade segment from today -this is where many traders lose focus -

over all - lost 1 tick but it lasted nearly 45 min

:when you cheat -you only cheat yourself
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we had to make and adjustment to F16 's trading account -for the past 2 weeks she was letting me know her drag and drop function was not working anymore -
for example - 7 tick hard stop could not be dragged up or down to make it a fast 2 or 3 tick loss -everytime she did the drag and drop it would pop back to the 7 tick spot -so we added a contract to the account -so now we have 2 available but will still use 1 for trading and bracket orders and the 2 nd one will be used for emergency purposes only -


always remain flexible

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news play - no reaction - flat @ b/e-

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a few system turns on another low volume day - congrates to timefreedom for noting we rolled to a 400 tick chart due to volume -a few good runners in this tight range

:when you cheat -you only cheat yourself
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F16 was skyping with timefreedom while she was in this trade -it was a jumper and we were watchin the A&D which was confirming to me to hold the long position -after a long wait she banked 5 ticks

:when you cheat -you only cheat yourself
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i had a question about risk on larger charts -
so here is a 3 min chart -all numbers are risk that would have to be taken -

the total gain for today would have been around 14 points if you played every move - with 14 points of total risk a 1 to 1 r/w

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hi! F16
This morning, i went short at 80.50 and i got out at 77.5 before the news. I would have stayed in but creeker didn't trust the news.
Next I went long at 75 well after the news andgot out at 79.00 when the trend line broke.
There was a break in the trend and I wanted to get out but creeker said to stay in...something about the a&d chart and how it looked.
We are taking a break now till after the news.

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shoulda woulda coulda

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my first trade today!

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creeker spotted this 69 long before i could see it so i didn't take it.
I was busy doing something else
WWWAAAAAAAA!

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here u go nautica man

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system long

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just a slow steady climb overnight

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Are these sim trades or live?

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Are these sim trades or live?

hope this helps -we trade mutiple accounts and i hope this is the 1 your questioning from the pic(time)-


Daily Trading Activity



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Contracts Exchange Fees Commissions NFA Fees PNL/Other Segregated Secured

8/1/2012 ESU2



_____2 __-_2_.28 __-_2_.68 __-_0_.04 _1_5_0_.00 _1_4_5_.00 ______-

2 -2.28 -2.68 -0.04 150.00 145.00 -

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8/1/2012 1:31:33 PM(GMT) FILL - 1 1,380.50 21,075,889

8/1/2012 1:47:47 PM(GMT) FILL _1 __- 1,377.50 21,076,406

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Gross Profit or Loss from Trades 150.00

Change in Open Trade Equity________-

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know your stop or you might get caught in the markets web

:when you cheat -you only cheat yourself
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f16 sim tested today from start to finish - she had to chart and trade -and find the balance of where her focus had to be at any given time - she tried to take every move she saw and was in the red at first by nearly 7 points -realizing that once she placed a trade her focus went to the money and not the chart -so we had her set her hard stop to redirect her focus to the next setup and ended up on the sim 287.50 or 5.75 points -a great day for her first try at both sides -

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was discussing this with time freedom -all charts no matter what the ma's used all seem to lead to the same areas

:when you cheat -you only cheat yourself
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and another -upper 91.50 area has shown up repeatedly over the last several weeks

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good morning espi:
creeker wanted me to explain a 'jumper' since i have a hard time seeing these live.
A jumper is when the ma crosses the trend line BUT doesn't cross the other ma and turns back toward the direction it came from. The blue line is a price level line to show where the ma came back up to where it first crossed over the trend. When this happens, you need to re evaluate and possibly reverse. I hope this makes sense.

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in regards to jumper poste-shows no sign of weakness to give a verifiable short
anyone trying to auto trade this system will get stopped out in these areas consistently- so be careful

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someone on a skype chat asked me this question and he/she said it was ok to post over here.

Here is my question: does price have to cross the blue line or does the ma have to cross the blue line to make it a jumper? Usually, price will cross first, then the ma. Sometimes, price will cross, but the ma does not. So again, is it price that has to cross the blue line or the ma to make it a jumper? Thanks.

[11:39:50 AM] : the ma has to cross to make it a jumper...but it doesn't mean it will do it just means you have to watch it, thats why i don't like these and they are confusing to me. creekteach wants to know if i can post your question on mikes without your name and then answer it over there.

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here is a south bound jumper-please note the trend line has not be reset in pic #1

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f16 trade-entry good-got out too soon-couldn't take the heat-
i told her its all about percentige

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Here's another question from a skyper:

[2:24:58 PM] How do you guys draw your lines on the A&D chart? I know you're using fib retracements, but not sure how you get the lines set.
[2:27:41 PM] : go back 10 days-find highest high and lowest low-set your fibs at 0, 100, 50 - keep splitting every signal box until you have 250-300 point total bewteen lines per level- 0 never ends up on zero-kinda funny

Also, the picture below is a trade where i got in at 89.00 system entry. Freakycreaky didn't like it because it gave my entry too easy so he told me to take 2 ticks and get out.

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well its been 9 weeks since we first started the easy edge system -

if you have been keeping track -we have banked over 400 es points since starting this thread -

using 1 contract as and example -

400 x 50 = 20,000 in 9 weeks

now assuming that there are 225 trading days in the year (9 weeks =45 days )

45 x 5 = 225

400 x 5 = 2000 es points

2000 x 50 = 100,000

using just 1 contract -

imagine if 1/2 the people collecting unemployment were trained to use this system -it would sure change the world -


for 9 weeks now we have showed you how the market moves and flows -

its does not come after you if you wait your turn -

there will be many that will try to auto trade this setup

and when there system hits a jumper zone and there contracts are stacked to high for the market to absorb -there will be record slippage recorded -

so stick to doing the charting yourself and keep your destiny in your own hands where you can be proud of who you are when you look in the mirror -


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here are a few pics of my best guess auto trading the 30 min es -using 2 points slippage each way of ma break and a 15 point stop for obvious reasons - not bad results for the big money managers .
even at 17.50 per weekly ave of profit for 52 weeks -that 910 es points or 45,500 dollars per contract -
remember your results may be different -as my results are from past experiance
but its easily back tested

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1 min chart . The importance of knowing the magnet zones .

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good morning

here's what i did so far
f16

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things im teaching creeker on boring days like today

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i entered at 93.50 a few times and finally got somewhere
will stay in until it tells me to get out which is when it crosses my trend line
still bored

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I got out with 6 ticks even though there wasnt' and exit because I'M BORED!

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1 min chart . Target zone

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ok...took a 1 point loss
entered at 94.00
creeker making me stay in
not happy
even my skyper buddy bailed

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f16 went flat for 2 ticks and has left the building-

she ended with 5.25 points -not bad on a big range high volume day like today

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a few future targets to squash the shorts just a little bit more -

f16 will be doing her thing and I will be running the 5 min chart using the 6/21 as my moving ave combination -remember the ma's are always corrolated to time and distance -

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5 min chart setup -good support and max target fot the zone -remember when you set these target zones up there are many lines that can be quickly deleted -or do as i do -and learn to see the 3 that count

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A follow up from yesturdays charting of the 1 min target zone.

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Tri-set from this morning .

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food for thought .has anyone taken notice how many times the move shows up with the tri-cross.

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a few magnets hit

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a nice system entry

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triple cross target zone complete from yesterday

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exit 1402.00
total 4.25 points

system entry and exit

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another tri-cross -@ 1404.75

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lil scalper
$25 is $25 no matter what.
True religion store....here i come!

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okay, here's a perfect pic of a floating trend line move to the new same low.
here's the before and after picture....and it also turned into a downward jumper, notice the blue jumper line to where it came back to the original cross over entry.

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another jumper in a flat zone - lost 1 tick -- i was asked why i call them jumpers -because if you dont watch them -they will come back and bite you in the A$$

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choppy down here

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1.5 points ----flat now

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A&D been in a slow decline

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Lookin good CB

I have approximate answers, possible beliefs and different degrees of certainty of different things. But I'm not absolutely sure of anything and there are many things i don't know anything about.
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i always find this interesting ma tipping up while market is dropping

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2 ticks

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5 min chart results 6/21 ma base -chart tells the tale

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5 min chart results 6/21 ma base -chart tells the tale

How soon do you pull you stop to Break even once your in trade so you have Zero loss? thx in Advance

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thanks for the question- it does not get shifted into place until the chart shows we must prepare to shift into the break even zone - i never like to tempt the market to test my levels -the funny part not that it is so funny -is this - i had completely forgot i had taken that last short till i went and pulled up the ladder on that account -was very busy today -may take a day or 2 off - hope this helps with your question





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here is and early screening of the es -remember as stated in earlier post -this setup works in all markets -now here is aa tip for the programers to help dial in there computer model to match ours - my trendlines -if you count the trendlines that go north and the trendlines that go south you can find which way the market is weighted and trade accordingly -there is also a very simple way to program this so your system will let you know when its balanced or ready for a reversal -but you will figure it out over time -

as for es we are still in our 91 to 05/08 range

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we will be trading the 6/21 ma combo on the es today again -i need less thinking

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market weight

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noon update - playing the 5 min es with 6/21 ma's -

we held through the pullback do to the a&D -

nice 7 point trade -from the open

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market weight helped confirm our decision also

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down in the battle zone -switched to a 333 tick due to extreme slowness and the super high volume at this point

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5 min chart -gave same entry area without all the chatter or excitement-A&D looking good

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last friday till present 30 min system trade -profit potential

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2 pointer -off our premarket call setup -wait your turn

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so fast

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We have had over 120 people from this site thank us for sharing this system with then -so for those who have found improvement in there trading -do what we do every so often -
when we are grocery shopping we randomly pay for someones groceries -we always catch someone that is just about complete and tell the check out person we are paying the bill -the reaction is worth the little bit it cost -let alone the smiles in the end

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my first ever true 4x cross --system gave it before the close on wed

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i was have a conversation the other week -and explaining that i had never seen a 4 x cross - and the person said when you do you better go all in -lol
time will tell if it has any more bearing that a 3x cross -

but if you had it charted -you still could have tried a short -or wait up all night for the signals to meet and enter the trade

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as you start coding any type of model -you always need to know the depth of knowledge






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another chop fillled topping day -for those that used the 5 min chart for the 3rd day -they must be happy

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hi

meancreekie had me chart out the last 4 days on a 5 minute chart to show me how long a trade can last because I am getting bored and impatient with them. I plotted the times and how much profit each took off the 5 minute chart. Please note that the orange markers on chart 3 were the only trades taken. Others were there for my understanding. creeker says if Im getting fidgety in this week then maybe some others are too. Still wondering if I could have stayed in some of these trades for an hour and made only a few ticks! pppfffft! I sometimes think he keeps me around just for the dictating and typing.
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made some minor adjustments for today - es 5 min chart - 12/42 ma cross- still range bound as the nearly equal upper and lower trendline count confirms -would like to see some nice up and down movement today instead of the hours of sideways chop

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i guess i should clarify this better - if we get another choppy day i am watching the 12/42 to try and stay out of the chop while playing the 6/21 -its just to see if f16 can try and ride the trades longer by having a slightly longer timeline

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good morning f16

my two pics are both a 5 minute chart with different ma's. the first pic is ma's 12/42 and teh second is ma's 6/21. creekgeek is having me chart the highs and lows to see when the the boxes on both charts line up to give me a stronger indication of a long or short entry. the blue boxes is when it lines up. it can also tell me how long to stay in the trade by matching up the blue boxes and ignoring the yellow ones along the way. I hope this makes sense to someone bc im a little confused.
we will let you know how it turns out today.
its yucky and raining here puppy is going to get real wet today

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chart #2 is a technical downtrend. we were looking for the short which is marked on chart #1. Chart 1 has the MA of 6/21 and Chart @ has MA of 12/42. Because we were in a tech downtrend on chart 2 we were focused on looking for a short at open. now we are waiting to see if we get a double reversal signnal on both charts.

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f16
ok...chart 1 was used for my entry and now i have crossover trend line on both charts and im gonna do my best to ride them and stay in the long trade until both systems show short setups.

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ok...the A's on both chart represent the time you have b4 the ma crosses trend. they are pretty much the same on both charts. hmmmmmmm

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ok...i am reposting bc i forgot to put the pic up with the bar.


ok...the A's on both chart represent the time you have b4 the ma crosses trend. they are pretty much the same on both charts. hmmmmmmm
29 Minutes Ago 10:21 AM

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Noon update:

still staying long bc of chart 2 showing no crossover on the ma's, so we are staying L O N G
but the 11 oclock smack down was tuff!

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hi.

the chart has given us a signal exit bc the 12/42 ma's have crossed. but since they crossed on an uptrend, we will continue to hold the position. but at this time we should have a system exit and gone short at 13.97 but i don't feel the short is valid bc the cross occurred above jumper.

ps. i taught creeker how to embed today!

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week ending 8/10

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same high as before but only 5 hours later

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system holding -still climbing -double top ?

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the system check past on its first day -long day -1 contract - 9 points -bottom to top

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5 min chart results 6/21 ma base -chart tells the tale

Do you enter on the 5 min chart or a lower timeframe?

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We have had over 120 people from this site thank us for sharing this system with then -so for those who have found improvement in there trading -do what we do every so often -
when we are grocery shopping we randomly pay for someones groceries -we always catch someone that is just about complete and tell the check out person we are paying the bill -the reaction is worth the little bit it cost -let alone the smiles in the end

Very nice creekboy. You're a good man.

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I sometimes think he keeps me around just for the dictating and typing.
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Forget the reasons creekiedictator "cd" keeps you around and don't stop soaking up the opportunity like a sponge. This experience is a turning point in your life bigger than you can imagine right now. But I'm confident you already knew this little detail and were just horsing around from the

Why don't you invest in one of those spiral notebooks you take to class with you and use it as your own personal journal?! Then you can tell cd and the rest of the world:


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yes -it takes a little getting use to -but stacking the charts can keep you in a trade longer -thanks for the question




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the next series of post are for option traders -
we hope to show how and why on day trades - swing trades on a 1 day chart and also swingtrades on a 3 day chart -work or fail and hopefully any option traders will learn to wait your turn to enter and exit your trades -and not use the 1 way wait and see what happens system-


on the following charts orange is long and pink is short -all exits are the last high and there are a few stopouts marked - there will be 16 charts to look at
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aapl 30 min chart for short swings with tight risk


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pcln - 30 min chart -tight risk short swings


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netflix- 30 min -short term swings


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apl - low volume stock tight range

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